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RE: In the Event of a Partial P5 College Football Breakaway, Who Makes the Cut?
(08-26-2017 03:55 PM)JRsec Wrote: (08-25-2017 11:22 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote: So in the event that, somewhere in the not-too-distant future, the best NCAA football programs do break away from the rest and either create their own new division within NCAA or a separate organization, who makes the cut?
I'd venture that 32 programs might make it, one for each NFL team. A one-to-one affiliation system could develop like that which already exists in baseball. I'm not sure about all the teams that would make the cut, but here are the ones I'm fairly certain would:
ACC: Clemson, Florida State, Virginia Tech
Big 12: Oklahoma, Texas
Big Ten: Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Pac-12: Oregon, Stanford, USC
SEC: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Texas A&M
Others: Notre Dame
That puts us at 22, so we need 10 more. Here are some possibles:
ACC: Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, North Carolina
Big 12: Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia
Big Ten: Illinois, Maryland, Michigan State, Minnesota, Rutgers
Pac-12: Arizona/Arizona State, California, Colorado, UCLA, Utah, Washington
SEC: Auburn, Missouri, Ole Miss
Others: Boise State, BYU
Note: I'd hope programs like Auburn's would make it, since they certainly deserve to in terms of football success. However, it's possible that due to politics, relatively low-population states may get shafted in favor of high-population ones, even if the latter lack a sufficient number of good football programs (e.g., Illinois). Media markets may still come into play, which is why I have weaker programs like those of Rutgers and UMD listed as possibles.
I'll take a stab at a lineup and alignment, along with potential NFL affiliates in parentheses:
Eastern Conference
North: Louisville (CIN), Michigan (DET), Michigan State (NEP), Notre Dame (IND), Ohio State (CLE), Penn State (PHI), Virginia Tech (WAS), West Virginia (PIT)
South: Alabama (NYG), Auburn (NYJ), Clemson (CAR), Florida (JAC), Florida State (TBB), Georgia (ATL), Miami (MIA), Tennessee (TEN)
Western Conference
Central: Arkansas (BUF), Iowa (CHI), LSU (NOS), Missouri (KCC), Nebraska (MIN), Oklahoma (DEN), Oklahoma State (BAL), Wisconsin (GBP)
Pacific: Arizona State (ARI), Oregon (LVR), Stanford (SFO), Texas (DAL), Texas A&M (HOU), UCLA (LAC), USC (LAR), Washington (SEA)
Permanent crossovers: Alabama/LSU, Notre Dame/USC, Oklahoma/Texas
A few affiliations are rather random due to there being not enough nearby teams.
If a breakaway occurs, the schools that the networks are willing to pay for will make the move.
The problem is that BYU, Boise State, Army, Navy and Air Force are valuable than some P5 schools that the Networks are willing to shell money out for them alone. The WCC is weak in basketball which is why rumors about BYU, Gonzaga and Saint Mary's to the MWC which would boast both the MWC and the three WCC members in basketball.
Georgetown, Saint John's and Villanova were in talks with the ACC to join them. The problem with those three are that they need to get more serious on sports and not just basketball. That means they have to have FBS football.
As for the breakaway from the NCAA? It just have to be willing partners of anybody who the P5 wants to go with them. I know that the Big 10 would like to grab all the AAU schools to go with them for all sports which includes McGill and Toronto.
The California schools want all the UC-whatever to go with them including UC-San Diego. MWC would be welcome except for San Jose State. It would be an agreement for MWC to be included that they need to boot San Jose State and add UC-Davis.
Some Big Sky schools and some west coast D2 schools are welcome to join because the PAC 12 do need some of them for the water sports. RMAC might be welcome for a simple reason for sports like Beach Volleyball and LAX. Some of these schools including GNAC do have club hockey which they could earn more money to expand into varsity teams in the future to create a west coast presence fr all schools. It could help both Alaska schools, Colorado college, Denver and Air Force for travel cost for hockey.
As it is, it would be too much burden of costs for this to happen for all the schools. Either if it is just football? It is no guarantee that the NCAA will bot them all out for all sports which would hurt them as well. As it is, the P5 are willing to list which schools could be a P5 type school and not naming the whole conferences as one.
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