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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
(08-26-2017 01:11 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 09:35 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  ...

You seem to be missing ...
Hey, you're answering a DavidSt post. It's missing being in touch with reality.
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
(08-26-2017 05:20 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 01:11 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 09:35 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  ...

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Hey, you're answering a DavidSt post. It's missing being in touch with reality.

I'm starting to see that.
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
Getting back to the aSun, it would appear it's on a suicide mission as it only has taken in one dii school, and it will be five years yet for them to be di. The asun doesnt have the power to poach other di schools unless it has fbs plans. Why wasn't the ASUN more proactive at getting more moveups? It's as if they know some schools like James Madison and Delaware aren't happy with the CAA and some America East schools like Stony Brook and Albany want an FBS vehicle. NJIT can simply swap position with Stony Brook and Albany and the America east will fine. The CAA also will be fine and they can turn on Hofstra for pissing off JMU and Delaware.
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
(08-26-2017 01:11 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 09:35 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem is that you guys want to put New Mexico State somewhere? They should not be in the A_Sun. That should be the WAC point to start with Big Sky, Summit, West Texas A&M, UT-Permian Basin and Southland schools that have football stadiums to be in compliance.

North Alabama do have the capacity with temp seatings to meat the 15,000+. I could use them as a starting point for A-Sun football along with Kennesaw State for FBS. You need them as a bridge point for the Florida schools with James Madison and Delaware. North Alabama in the west part not that far from Jacksonville State and Chattanooga. We need not forget that there are three Southland schools been looking to join FBS as well.

You seem to be missing that schools generally do not vault straight from DII to the FBS. North Alabama isn't even joining the FCS until a few years from now, and it's not like they'll be immediate FBS candidates.


The rules do not say what you are saying to be able to qualify to become D1 member? You have to be in D2 for 8 years. There is no rules saying that you have to join an FCS conference first. So, you are adding something that is not there. When North Alabama was talking about joining the Sun Belt? There were no rules preventing them or any schools at D2 to join an FBS conference from D2 except that you have to be in D2 for 8 years. West Texas A&M could join an FBS conference if they wanted to as well.
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
(08-27-2017 12:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 01:11 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 09:35 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem is that you guys want to put New Mexico State somewhere? They should not be in the A_Sun. That should be the WAC point to start with Big Sky, Summit, West Texas A&M, UT-Permian Basin and Southland schools that have football stadiums to be in compliance.

North Alabama do have the capacity with temp seatings to meat the 15,000+. I could use them as a starting point for A-Sun football along with Kennesaw State for FBS. You need them as a bridge point for the Florida schools with James Madison and Delaware. North Alabama in the west part not that far from Jacksonville State and Chattanooga. We need not forget that there are three Southland schools been looking to join FBS as well.

You seem to be missing that schools generally do not vault straight from DII to the FBS. North Alabama isn't even joining the FCS until a few years from now, and it's not like they'll be immediate FBS candidates.


The rules do not say what you are saying to be able to qualify to become D1 member? You have to be in D2 for 8 years. There is no rules saying that you have to join an FCS conference first. So, you are adding something that is not there. When North Alabama was talking about joining the Sun Belt? There were no rules preventing them or any schools at D2 to join an FBS conference from D2 except that you have to be in D2 for 8 years. West Texas A&M could join an FBS conference if they wanted to as well.

They can "want" to join a FBS conference all they like. That doesn't make it any more plausible that an FBS conference would want them.
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
(08-26-2017 11:11 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Getting back to the aSun, it would appear it's on a suicide mission as it only has taken in one dii school, and it will be five years yet for them to be di. The asun doesnt have the power to poach other di schools unless it has fbs plans. Why wasn't the ASUN more proactive at getting more moveups? It's as if they know some schools like James Madison and Delaware aren't happy with the CAA and some America East schools like Stony Brook and Albany want an FBS vehicle. NJIT can simply swap position with Stony Brook and Albany and the America east will fine. The CAA also will be fine and they can turn on Hofstra for pissing off JMU and Delaware.


We do know some D2 schools are talking to join D1. Moving schools around could help them.

Bently
Merrimack
Southern New Hampshire
Maybe LIU-Post or merge with LIU who is already in D1?
Rowan wants D1 even if they are D3.
Indiana, Pa. was looking to move to D1.

Big South could look at a northern exposure to grab Monmouth, Indiana Pa., LIU-Post, NJTU and Robert Morris for football only if they go to Horizon.
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
(08-27-2017 12:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 01:11 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 09:35 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem is that you guys want to put New Mexico State somewhere? They should not be in the A_Sun. That should be the WAC point to start with Big Sky, Summit, West Texas A&M, UT-Permian Basin and Southland schools that have football stadiums to be in compliance.

North Alabama do have the capacity with temp seatings to meat the 15,000+. I could use them as a starting point for A-Sun football along with Kennesaw State for FBS. You need them as a bridge point for the Florida schools with James Madison and Delaware. North Alabama in the west part not that far from Jacksonville State and Chattanooga. We need not forget that there are three Southland schools been looking to join FBS as well.

You seem to be missing that schools generally do not vault straight from DII to the FBS. North Alabama isn't even joining the FCS until a few years from now, and it's not like they'll be immediate FBS candidates.


The rules do not say what you are saying to be able to qualify to become D1 member? You have to be in D2 for 8 years. There is no rules saying that you have to join an FCS conference first. So, you are adding something that is not there. When North Alabama was talking about joining the Sun Belt? There were no rules preventing them or any schools at D2 to join an FBS conference from D2 except that you have to be in D2 for 8 years. West Texas A&M could join an FBS conference if they wanted to as well.

They can "want" to join a FBS conference all they like. That doesn't make it any more plausible that an FBS conference would want them.


Depends. UNA was the last D2 that beat an FBS school. They are capable to compete at the FBS level. The team they beat was a Sun Belt team.
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
(08-27-2017 12:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UNA was the last D2 that beat an FBS school. They are capable to compete at the FBS level. The team they beat was a Sun Belt team.
That was 20 years ago. It has no bearing on their ability to change subdivisions, especially since it will have been at least 25 years after that game before they can even apply.
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
Fbs cannot schedule d2.... Fcs can though
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RE: James Madison talks of going FBS are legitimate
(08-27-2017 12:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 01:11 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-26-2017 09:35 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The problem is that you guys want to put New Mexico State somewhere? They should not be in the A_Sun. That should be the WAC point to start with Big Sky, Summit, West Texas A&M, UT-Permian Basin and Southland schools that have football stadiums to be in compliance.

North Alabama do have the capacity with temp seatings to meat the 15,000+. I could use them as a starting point for A-Sun football along with Kennesaw State for FBS. You need them as a bridge point for the Florida schools with James Madison and Delaware. North Alabama in the west part not that far from Jacksonville State and Chattanooga. We need not forget that there are three Southland schools been looking to join FBS as well.

You seem to be missing that schools generally do not vault straight from DII to the FBS. North Alabama isn't even joining the FCS until a few years from now, and it's not like they'll be immediate FBS candidates.


The rules do not say what you are saying to be able to qualify to become D1 member? You have to be in D2 for 8 years. There is no rules saying that you have to join an FCS conference first. So, you are adding something that is not there. When North Alabama was talking about joining the Sun Belt? There were no rules preventing them or any schools at D2 to join an FBS conference from D2 except that you have to be in D2 for 8 years. West Texas A&M could join an FBS conference if they wanted to as well.

Go back to fantasy camp and take your thread hijacking nonsense with you. It's funny you bring up the rules when you're the one wanting a waiver for everything under the Sun.

North Alabama has never been and will never be an option for the Sun Belt. James Madison will be accepted to the SBC before North Alabama, and we know that's not happening either. The idea that a D1-A conference would consider adding a D2 school would make that conference a laughingstock. The costs to the school would be huge. North Alabama, in a D2 to D1-A move, would have to add at least 49 scholarships for football alone and at least another 30 for the other sports. Then there's the increase in salary, staff, travel, facility, and other items needed at D1-A. North Alabama football average attendance has dropped over the last four years; only 7,670 in 2016 (12th in D2, a season they advanced to the national championship game) which is about 2,300 less than the 2013 average.

(08-27-2017 12:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  UNA was the last D2 that beat an FBS school. They are capable to compete at the FBS level. The team they beat was a Sun Belt team.

That is ancient history, people in college now weren't born yet. Southwestern Louisiana football was not a Sun Belt team then and finished the season with a 1-10 record.
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