(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Kids...a little perspective here. There is no way to objectively measure name brand recognition. We could look at football attendance, TV viewers, freshmen applicants, living alumni, and other metrics, but none tell the objective story and all are subject to the whims of higher education, in general. We could debate the metrics all day long, but it is a circular argument. Now...Carry on as you were.

I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

For the record we have 2 national championships but that's irrelevant.

Let's not act like fcs national championships bring any real attention

(08-06-2017 11:27 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Kids...a little perspective here. There is no way to objectively measure name brand recognition. We could look at football attendance, TV viewers, freshmen applicants, living alumni, and other metrics, but none tell the objective story and all are subject to the whims of higher education, in general. We could debate the metrics all day long, but it is a circular argument. Now...Carry on as you were.

I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

For the record we have 2 national championships but that's irrelevant.

Let's not act like fcs national championships bring any real attention

North Dakota State and JMU would like a word. They both have hosted College Gameday recently. When's the last time TXST hosted Gameday?

They didn't host because of their natty. JMU hosted it in 2015 I believe.

I stand by my comment. Most people can't tell you what fcs is. Hell you could argue D2 is more well known as an entity since most people assume FCS is D2

(08-06-2017 11:32 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:27 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Kids...a little perspective here. There is no way to objectively measure name brand recognition. We could look at football attendance, TV viewers, freshmen applicants, living alumni, and other metrics, but none tell the objective story and all are subject to the whims of higher education, in general. We could debate the metrics all day long, but it is a circular argument. Now...Carry on as you were.

I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

For the record we have 2 national championships but that's irrelevant.

Let's not act like fcs national championships bring any real attention

North Dakota State and JMU would like a word. They both have hosted College Gameday recently. When's the last time TXST hosted Gameday?

A FBS school clinging to years past FCS success has no merit on the FBS level other than when a FCS school was striving to become FBS. Apples and apples are FBS/FBS. Apples and oranges are FCS/FBS. Judge each to their own.

We aren't arguing over whether FCS National Titles are better than bowl games or not, we're arguing over if success at the FCS level translates to national exposure. Like it or not, even if you don't know anything about the FCS, you still know the names NDSU and JMU and it's because of their success at that level. Liberty has neither success at that level or a name brand as some of their fans would have us believe. In fact, I'd say the only real national exposure they've had as a school is hosting presidential candidates.

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Kids...a little perspective here. There is no way to objectively measure name brand recognition. We could look at football attendance, TV viewers, freshmen applicants, living alumni, and other metrics, but none tell the objective story and all are subject to the whims of higher education, in general. We could debate the metrics all day long, but it is a circular argument. Now...Carry on as you were.

I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

(08-06-2017 11:32 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:27 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Kids...a little perspective here. There is no way to objectively measure name brand recognition. We could look at football attendance, TV viewers, freshmen applicants, living alumni, and other metrics, but none tell the objective story and all are subject to the whims of higher education, in general. We could debate the metrics all day long, but it is a circular argument. Now...Carry on as you were.

I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

For the record we have 2 national championships but that's irrelevant.

Let's not act like fcs national championships bring any real attention

North Dakota State and JMU would like a word. They both have hosted College Gameday recently. When's the last time TXST hosted Gameday?

North Dakota is a good example of what FCS championships can do for recognition. What football fan doesnt know about their program with the championships and wins vs the bigs?

(08-07-2017 03:03 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  North Dakota is a good example of what FCS championships can do for recognition. What football fan doesnt know about their program with the championships and wins vs the bigs?

You apparently...

(08-07-2017 10:50 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Kids...a little perspective here. There is no way to objectively measure name brand recognition. We could look at football attendance, TV viewers, freshmen applicants, living alumni, and other metrics, but none tell the objective story and all are subject to the whims of higher education, in general. We could debate the metrics all day long, but it is a circular argument. Now...Carry on as you were.

I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

We never said if the reasons LU is more known were good or bad. Obviously that isn't a good thing but they got way more publicity for that than pretty much any school here has gotten recently. People talking makes your school known. Good or bad LU has that. It blows my mind why people here hate on them like they do. At the end of the day they are now a peer school for the SBC and should be an important game to schedule because they will help your teams get bowl eligible.

(08-07-2017 06:32 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 10:50 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Kids...a little perspective here. There is no way to objectively measure name brand recognition. We could look at football attendance, TV viewers, freshmen applicants, living alumni, and other metrics, but none tell the objective story and all are subject to the whims of higher education, in general. We could debate the metrics all day long, but it is a circular argument. Now...Carry on as you were.

I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

We never said if the reasons LU is more known were good or bad. Obviously that isn't a good thing but they got way more publicity for that than pretty much any school here has gotten recently. People talking makes your school known. Good or bad LU has that. It blows my mind why people here hate on them like they do. At the end of the day they are now a peer school for the SBC and should be an important game to schedule because they will help your teams get bowl eligible.

LMAO, they are not a peer school to the SBC.

(08-07-2017 06:49 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:32 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 10:50 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

We never said if the reasons LU is more known were good or bad. Obviously that isn't a good thing but they got way more publicity for that than pretty much any school here has gotten recently. People talking makes your school known. Good or bad LU has that. It blows my mind why people here hate on them like they do. At the end of the day they are now a peer school for the SBC and should be an important game to schedule because they will help your teams get bowl eligible.

Go promote the Gamecocks playing Liberty on the USC. Will help USC become bowl eligible. And you'll get run

I see no difference playing them compared to any school in the SBC. They should be a win and it counts as an FBS win. Obviously you play the game and any team can win. I wouldn't be in favor of us playing an away game against them but that's because I don't think we should be playing G5 teams on the road. That is too much money for us to lose by not having an extra home game.

(08-07-2017 06:57 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:49 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:32 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 10:50 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

We never said if the reasons LU is more known were good or bad. Obviously that isn't a good thing but they got way more publicity for that than pretty much any school here has gotten recently. People talking makes your school known. Good or bad LU has that. It blows my mind why people here hate on them like they do. At the end of the day they are now a peer school for the SBC and should be an important game to schedule because they will help your teams get bowl eligible.

Go promote the Gamecocks playing Liberty on the USC. Will help USC become bowl eligible. And you'll get run

I see no difference playing them compared to any school in the SBC. They should be a win and it counts as an FBS win. Obviously you play the game and any team can win. I wouldn't be in favor of us playing an away game against them but that's because I don't think we should be playing G5 teams on the road. That is too much money for us to lose by not having an extra home game.

You think you’re above playing a G5 team on the road? So no Home and Home?


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(08-07-2017 06:32 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 10:50 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 01:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Kids...a little perspective here. There is no way to objectively measure name brand recognition. We could look at football attendance, TV viewers, freshmen applicants, living alumni, and other metrics, but none tell the objective story and all are subject to the whims of higher education, in general. We could debate the metrics all day long, but it is a circular argument. Now...Carry on as you were.

I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

We never said if the reasons LU is more known were good or bad. Obviously that isn't a good thing but they got way more publicity for that than pretty much any school here has gotten recently. People talking makes your school known. Good or bad LU has that. It blows my mind why people here hate on them like they do. At the end of the day they are now a peer school for the SBC and should be an important game to schedule because they will help your teams get bowl eligible.

Wait, I just want to clarify something real quick before I even decide if it's worth trying to have an intelligent discussion with you in the future....

Are you saying that Liberty hiring McCaw got them more publicity than Coastal winning the national championship in baseball last year?

More than when Georgia State won their first round NCAA tourney game and their assistant coach fell out of his chair on the buzzer beater?

More than when USA beat Mississippi State last year in football?

More than when App State beat a top 25 Michigan?

(08-08-2017 07:45 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:32 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 10:50 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

We never said if the reasons LU is more known were good or bad. Obviously that isn't a good thing but they got way more publicity for that than pretty much any school here has gotten recently. People talking makes your school known. Good or bad LU has that. It blows my mind why people here hate on them like they do. At the end of the day they are now a peer school for the SBC and should be an important game to schedule because they will help your teams get bowl eligible.

Wait, I just want to clarify something real quick before I even decide if it's worth trying to have an intelligent discussion with you in the future....

Are you saying that Liberty hiring McCaw got them more publicity than Coastal winning the national championship in baseball last year?

More than when Georgia State won their first round NCAA tourney game and their assistant coach fell out of his chair on the buzzer beater?

More than when USA beat Mississippi State last year in football?

More than when App State beat a top 25 Michigan?

That was actually Georgia State's head coach.

(08-08-2017 03:05 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 07:45 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:32 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 10:50 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

We never said if the reasons LU is more known were good or bad. Obviously that isn't a good thing but they got way more publicity for that than pretty much any school here has gotten recently. People talking makes your school known. Good or bad LU has that. It blows my mind why people here hate on them like they do. At the end of the day they are now a peer school for the SBC and should be an important game to schedule because they will help your teams get bowl eligible.

Wait, I just want to clarify something real quick before I even decide if it's worth trying to have an intelligent discussion with you in the future....

Are you saying that Liberty hiring McCaw got them more publicity than Coastal winning the national championship in baseball last year?

More than when Georgia State won their first round NCAA tourney game and their assistant coach fell out of his chair on the buzzer beater?

More than when USA beat Mississippi State last year in football?

More than when App State beat a top 25 Michigan?

That was actually Georgia State's head coach.

Yeah but Ron Hunter carries himself like an assistant at best. Total crybaby primadonna like his son

(08-08-2017 07:45 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:32 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 10:50 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 09:14 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 04:06 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  I disagree strongly. I gave several examples of national recognition received by several teams in the SBC. No one has even attempted to offer one example for the Flames. National championships matter and we have several with App, Georgia Southern, ULM and Troy I believe. Coastal can claim a NCAA divison 1 championship in baseball. The league can claim several national appearances against the biggest teams in the country, Troy and App
are getting votes right now in the top 25. ULM has several wins against the SEC and South Alabama did it to Miss State last year. The list goes on and on. What recognition does Liberty offer in response?
I have no problems with the Flames but facts are facts and the only recognition you offer is your Falwell publicity and being one of the largest online schools in the country. I'm not knocking either but to suggest you have more sports recognition is nuts! And this ain't a circular argument in the sports world!

Well in that case, for one, our unusual move to FBS as a private independent sent shockwaves through the national football landscape. Hiring Ian McCaw was another. While this might not be the same kind of recognition ASU received for three national titles in a row or beating Michigan, it does get the word out. You asked for recognition, not football titles afterall.

You're touting that as a POSITIVE?

Good Lord.

We never said if the reasons LU is more known were good or bad. Obviously that isn't a good thing but they got way more publicity for that than pretty much any school here has gotten recently. People talking makes your school known. Good or bad LU has that. It blows my mind why people here hate on them like they do. At the end of the day they are now a peer school for the SBC and should be an important game to schedule because they will help your teams get bowl eligible.

Wait, I just want to clarify something real quick before I even decide if it's worth trying to have an intelligent discussion with you in the future....

Are you saying that Liberty hiring McCaw got them more publicity than Coastal winning the national championship in baseball last year?

More than when Georgia State won their first round NCAA tourney game and their assistant coach fell out of his chair on the buzzer beater?

More than when USA beat Mississippi State last year in football?

More than when App State beat a top 25 Michigan?

CCU no
GaSt debatable
USA yes
App no but I wouldn't consider 10 years ago recent. (Also that was a top 5 team at the time)

I specifically said pretty much for a reason. Meaning not everyone, mainly throwing that in there because of CCU.

(08-07-2017 03:20 PM)_x_ Wrote:  [quote='Florida RedWolf' pid='14487527' dateline='1502136206']

North Dakota is a good example of what FCS championships can do for recognition. What football fan doesnt know about their program with the championships and wins vs the bigs?

You apparently...



Apparently you. You don't want your bobcats to play them I promise. The opportunity to get beat will make most FBS schools look elsewhere.



S

(08-08-2017 08:28 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:20 PM)_x_ Wrote:  [quote='Florida RedWolf' pid='14487527' dateline='1502136206']

North Dakota is a good example of what FCS championships can do for recognition. What football fan doesnt know about their program with the championships and wins vs the bigs?

You apparently...



Apparently you. You don't want your bobcats to play them I promise. The opportunity to get beat will make most FBS schools look elsewhere.



S

Except it's not North Dakota. It's north Dakota State. The only reason they have such recognition is because they've beaten a lot of p5s. The streak helps. But if it wasn't such a ridiculous streak no one would hear about it.

(08-08-2017 10:47 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 08:28 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:20 PM)_x_ Wrote:  [quote='Florida RedWolf' pid='14487527' dateline='1502136206']

North Dakota is a good example of what FCS championships can do for recognition. What football fan doesnt know about their program with the championships and wins vs the bigs?

You apparently...



Apparently you. You don't want your bobcats to play them I promise. The opportunity to get beat will make most FBS schools look elsewhere.



S

Except it's not North Dakota. It's north Dakota State. The only reason they have such recognition is because they've beaten a lot of p5s. The streak helps. But if it wasn't such a ridiculous streak no one would hear about it.

(08-09-2017 04:51 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:47 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 08:28 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 03:20 PM)_x_ Wrote:  [quote='Florida RedWolf' pid='14487527' dateline='1502136206']

North Dakota is a good example of what FCS championships can do for recognition. What football fan doesnt know about their program with the championships and wins vs the bigs?

You apparently...



Apparently you. You don't want your bobcats to play them I promise. The opportunity to get beat will make most FBS schools look elsewhere.



S

Except it's not North Dakota. It's north Dakota State. The only reason they have such recognition is because they've beaten a lot of p5s. The streak helps. But if it wasn't such a ridiculous streak no one would hear about it.

B


Yes, NDSU thanks for the correction. But that is my point, they have won the 1AA championships and beat the bigs. They have gotten nationally well deserved recongnition for it. App and GS was in that boat before turning FBS.