UCGrad1992
Legend
Posts: 31,951
Joined: Sep 2013
Reputation: 2312
I Root For: Bearcats U
Location: North Carolina
|
Jerry Palm Bracketology
Too early for this stuff but waiting for football season to begin damn't. Palm has the Cats as the four seed in the south. I would take that in a heartbeat if it played out that way. Getting a little too familiar with the streets of Spokane.
The Prophet Hairy Palm
|
|
07-28-2017 09:29 PM |
|
rath v2.0
Wartime Consigliere
Posts: 51,390
Joined: Jun 2007
Reputation: 2175
I Root For: Civil Disobedience
Location: Tip Of The Mitt
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
Good Lord. We have officially jumped the shark.
|
|
07-28-2017 10:39 PM |
|
Section 200
Special Teams
Posts: 663
Joined: Oct 2007
Reputation: 57
I Root For: UC & XU
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
Great draw! UK in the Sweet 16 to play Duke
|
|
07-29-2017 11:15 AM |
|
SuperFlyBCat
Banned
Posts: 49,583
Joined: Mar 2005
I Root For: America and UC
Location: Cincinnati
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
4 seed, that would require a 34-2 record.
|
|
07-29-2017 11:50 AM |
|
WalterSobchak
Special Teams
Posts: 591
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 46
I Root For: MY BEARCATS
Location: tO$U Country
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
Do we play on Thursday or Friday?
|
|
07-29-2017 12:13 PM |
|
mbj655
Special Teams
Posts: 947
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 9
I Root For: Bearcats
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(07-29-2017 12:13 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote: Do we play on Thursday or Friday?
Thursday, first game, in Sacramento.
|
|
07-29-2017 01:26 PM |
|
mptnstr@44
Hall of Famer
Posts: 11,047
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 427
I Root For: Nati Bearcats
Location:
|
Jerry Palm Bracketology
(07-29-2017 01:26 PM)mbj655 Wrote: (07-29-2017 12:13 PM)WalterSobchak Wrote: Do we play on Thursday or Friday?
Thursday, first game, in Sacramento.
Sent out west for the opening rounds again. South region doesn't matter much if your first two are clear across the country.
|
|
07-29-2017 02:13 PM |
|
UCGrad1992
Legend
Posts: 31,951
Joined: Sep 2013
Reputation: 2312
I Root For: Bearcats U
Location: North Carolina
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
ESPN BPI rankings out and we're getting some love there as well:
Preseason 2017-18 College Basketball Power Index (BPI)
BPI RANK TEAM
1 Wichita State
2 Louisville
3 Villanova
4 Notre Dame
5 Arizona
6 West Virginia
7 Purdue
8 Oklahoma
9 TCU
10 Kansas
11 Cincinnati
12 Virginia
13 Kentucky
14 Duke
15 Seton Hall
16 Saint Mary's
17 Michigan State
18 Texas Tech
19 Xavier
20 Alabama
21 Arkansas
22 Providence
23 Iowa
24 Auburn
25 Northwestern
26 North Carolina
27 Florida
28 Minnesota
29 Ohio State
30 Virginia Tech
41 Temple
48 UCF
Blood Pressure Index
|
|
07-29-2017 04:39 PM |
|
Lush
go to hell and get a job
Posts: 16,252
Joined: May 2004
Reputation: 407
I Root For: the user
Location: sovereign ludditia
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
that's at least getting back to the mediocre years of huggins
|
|
07-29-2017 09:46 PM |
|
Ragpicker
All American
Posts: 4,962
Joined: May 2005
Reputation: 198
I Root For: Black & Gold
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(07-29-2017 04:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: ESPN BPI rankings out and we're getting some love there as well:
Preseason 2017-18 College Basketball Power Index (BPI)
BPI RANK TEAM
1 Wichita State
2 Louisville
3 Villanova
4 Notre Dame
5 Arizona
6 West Virginia
7 Purdue
8 Oklahoma
9 TCU
10 Kansas
11 Cincinnati
12 Virginia
13 Kentucky
14 Duke
15 Seton Hall
16 Saint Mary's
17 Michigan State
18 Texas Tech
19 Xavier
20 Alabama
21 Arkansas
22 Providence
23 Iowa
24 Auburn
25 Northwestern
26 North Carolina
27 Florida
28 Minnesota
29 Ohio State
30 Virginia Tech
41 Temple
48 UCF
Blood Pressure Index
They may have to rethink that top spot...
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...y/?src=rss
|
|
07-30-2017 12:36 PM |
|
BcatMatt13
Hall of Famer
Posts: 11,307
Joined: Apr 2007
Reputation: 204
I Root For: The Bearcats
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(07-29-2017 04:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: ESPN BPI rankings out and we're getting some love there as well:
Preseason 2017-18 College Basketball Power Index (BPI)
BPI RANK TEAM
1 Wichita State
2 Louisville
3 Villanova
4 Notre Dame
5 Arizona
6 West Virginia
7 Purdue
8 Oklahoma
9 TCU
10 Kansas
11 Cincinnati
12 Virginia
13 Kentucky
14 Duke
15 Seton Hall
16 Saint Mary's
17 Michigan State
18 Texas Tech
19 Xavier
20 Alabama
21 Arkansas
22 Providence
23 Iowa
24 Auburn
25 Northwestern
26 North Carolina
27 Florida
28 Minnesota
29 Ohio State
30 Virginia Tech
41 Temple
48 UCF
Blood Pressure Index
If UConn and Memphis programs were on par with where they have been historically, this league would be really solid with the addition on Wichita coupled with the recent improvements of Houston, UCF, and SMU. The bottom three (ECU, Tulane, USF) seem to be stuck in reverse, so that's always going to drag the league down, but some combination of the other 9 (UC, Wichita, UConn, Temple, Memphis, Houston, SMU, Tulsa , UCF) should compete for 4-6 bids every year.
But it all starts with UConn, Memphis, and Temple. They need to get back to where they've always been and this conference should be ok.
(This post was last modified: 07-30-2017 08:00 PM by BcatMatt13.)
|
|
07-30-2017 07:54 PM |
|
Ragpicker
All American
Posts: 4,962
Joined: May 2005
Reputation: 198
I Root For: Black & Gold
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(07-30-2017 07:54 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: (07-29-2017 04:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: ESPN BPI rankings out and we're getting some love there as well:
Preseason 2017-18 College Basketball Power Index (BPI)
BPI RANK TEAM
1 Wichita State
2 Louisville
3 Villanova
4 Notre Dame
5 Arizona
6 West Virginia
7 Purdue
8 Oklahoma
9 TCU
10 Kansas
11 Cincinnati
12 Virginia
13 Kentucky
14 Duke
15 Seton Hall
16 Saint Mary's
17 Michigan State
18 Texas Tech
19 Xavier
20 Alabama
21 Arkansas
22 Providence
23 Iowa
24 Auburn
25 Northwestern
26 North Carolina
27 Florida
28 Minnesota
29 Ohio State
30 Virginia Tech
41 Temple
48 UCF
Blood Pressure Index
If UConn and Memphis programs were on par with where they have been historically, this league would be really solid with the addition on Wichita coupled with the recent improvements of Houston, UCF, and SMU. The bottom three (ECU, Tulane, USF) seem to be stuck in reverse, so that's always going to drag the league down, but some combination of the other 9 (UC, Wichita, UConn, Temple, Memphis, Houston, SMU, Tulsa , UCF) should compete for 4-6 bids every year.
But it all starts with UConn, Memphis, and Temple. They need to get back to where they've always been and this conference should be ok.
Simply UConn will not be able to recruit the same level of players. UConn in the Big East, playing the tournament in MSG - yes! UConn in the AAC, playing in Orlando or Memphis or Hartford - no!
|
|
07-30-2017 11:23 PM |
|
bearcat_df
Bench Warmer
Posts: 153
Joined: Feb 2016
Reputation: 11
I Root For: Cincinnati
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(07-30-2017 11:23 PM)Ragpicker Wrote: (07-30-2017 07:54 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: (07-29-2017 04:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: ESPN BPI rankings out and we're getting some love there as well:
Preseason 2017-18 College Basketball Power Index (BPI)
BPI RANK TEAM
1 Wichita State
2 Louisville
3 Villanova
4 Notre Dame
5 Arizona
6 West Virginia
7 Purdue
8 Oklahoma
9 TCU
10 Kansas
11 Cincinnati
12 Virginia
13 Kentucky
14 Duke
15 Seton Hall
16 Saint Mary's
17 Michigan State
18 Texas Tech
19 Xavier
20 Alabama
21 Arkansas
22 Providence
23 Iowa
24 Auburn
25 Northwestern
26 North Carolina
27 Florida
28 Minnesota
29 Ohio State
30 Virginia Tech
41 Temple
48 UCF
Blood Pressure Index
If UConn and Memphis programs were on par with where they have been historically, this league would be really solid with the addition on Wichita coupled with the recent improvements of Houston, UCF, and SMU. The bottom three (ECU, Tulane, USF) seem to be stuck in reverse, so that's always going to drag the league down, but some combination of the other 9 (UC, Wichita, UConn, Temple, Memphis, Houston, SMU, Tulsa , UCF) should compete for 4-6 bids every year.
But it all starts with UConn, Memphis, and Temple. They need to get back to where they've always been and this conference should be ok.
Simply UConn will not be able to recruit the same level of players. UConn in the Big East, playing the tournament in MSG - yes! UConn in the AAC, playing in Orlando or Memphis or Hartford - no!
I think the same can be said for Memphis and Temple. It also highlights the quality job Mick has done in recruiting. It's a shame the Big East fell apart, that was a good fit for us and made sense (UC, WVU, UofL, Pitt, and SU all pretty similar schools). It would be interesting what the program could do in the Big 12 or ACC . . .
|
|
07-31-2017 12:12 PM |
|
HuskyU
Big East Overlord
Posts: 22,802
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 1182
I Root For: UCONN
Location: The Big East
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(07-30-2017 11:23 PM)Ragpicker Wrote: (07-30-2017 07:54 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: (07-29-2017 04:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: ESPN BPI rankings out and we're getting some love there as well:
Preseason 2017-18 College Basketball Power Index (BPI)
BPI RANK TEAM
1 Wichita State
2 Louisville
3 Villanova
4 Notre Dame
5 Arizona
6 West Virginia
7 Purdue
8 Oklahoma
9 TCU
10 Kansas
11 Cincinnati
12 Virginia
13 Kentucky
14 Duke
15 Seton Hall
16 Saint Mary's
17 Michigan State
18 Texas Tech
19 Xavier
20 Alabama
21 Arkansas
22 Providence
23 Iowa
24 Auburn
25 Northwestern
26 North Carolina
27 Florida
28 Minnesota
29 Ohio State
30 Virginia Tech
41 Temple
48 UCF
Blood Pressure Index
If UConn and Memphis programs were on par with where they have been historically, this league would be really solid with the addition on Wichita coupled with the recent improvements of Houston, UCF, and SMU. The bottom three (ECU, Tulane, USF) seem to be stuck in reverse, so that's always going to drag the league down, but some combination of the other 9 (UC, Wichita, UConn, Temple, Memphis, Houston, SMU, Tulsa , UCF) should compete for 4-6 bids every year.
But it all starts with UConn, Memphis, and Temple. They need to get back to where they've always been and this conference should be ok.
Simply UConn will not be able to recruit the same level of players. UConn in the Big East, playing the tournament in MSG - yes! UConn in the AAC, playing in Orlando or Memphis or Hartford - no!
You're simply wrong. First off, recruits don't pick a school based on where a 4 day conference tournament is played. It's a cool bonus, but hardly a deciding factor. As far as recruiting the same level of players is concerned, we had a Top 10 recruiting class just last year. We were awful due to having a young, injury-ridden roster. Going forward, two 2018 Top 10 players have UCONN in their Final 5 (mind you we rarely landed Top 10 guys in the Calhoun era). Additionally, UCONN's past successes can be attributed to landing and developing Top 50-100 kids. We'll still be able to land those kind of recruits regardless of our conference affiliation.
|
|
08-01-2017 12:40 PM |
|
OKIcat
Heisman
Posts: 6,689
Joined: Sep 2015
Reputation: 191
I Root For: Cincinnati
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
You're simply wrong. First off, recruits don't pick a school based on where a 4 day conference tournament is played. It's a cool bonus, but hardly a deciding factor. As far as recruiting the same level of players is concerned, we had a Top 10 recruiting class just last year. We were awful due to having a young, injury-ridden roster. Going forward, two 2018 Top 10 players have UCONN in their Final 5 (mind you we rarely landed Top 10 guys in the Calhoun era). Additionally, UCONN's past successes can be attributed to landing and developing Top 50-100 kids. We'll still be able to land those kind of recruits regardless of our conference affiliation.
[/quote from HuskyU]
Speaking for myself, and I suspect many fellow Bearcat fans, we want UCONN to be strong and return to winning a lot and being highly ranked. It's become a great rivalry and I hope it continues here, or competing together in some future power conference scenario. The UC v. UCONN basketball game remains the best rivalry in a young conference, producing some epic battles. Here's hoping both teams are ranked each time the cats and dogs tangle.
(This post was last modified: 08-01-2017 01:50 PM by OKIcat.)
|
|
08-01-2017 01:50 PM |
|
doss2
Hall of Famer
Posts: 10,647
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation: 141
I Root For: BEARCATS
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(08-01-2017 12:40 PM)HuskyU Wrote: (07-30-2017 11:23 PM)Ragpicker Wrote: (07-30-2017 07:54 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: (07-29-2017 04:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: ESPN BPI rankings out and we're getting some love there as well:
Preseason 2017-18 College Basketball Power Index (BPI)
BPI RANK TEAM
1 Wichita State
2 Louisville
3 Villanova
4 Notre Dame
5 Arizona
6 West Virginia
7 Purdue
8 Oklahoma
9 TCU
10 Kansas
11 Cincinnati
12 Virginia
13 Kentucky
14 Duke
15 Seton Hall
16 Saint Mary's
17 Michigan State
18 Texas Tech
19 Xavier
20 Alabama
21 Arkansas
22 Providence
23 Iowa
24 Auburn
25 Northwestern
26 North Carolina
27 Florida
28 Minnesota
29 Ohio State
30 Virginia Tech
41 Temple
48 UCF
Blood Pressure Index
If UConn and Memphis programs were on par with where they have been historically, this league would be really solid with the addition on Wichita coupled with the recent improvements of Houston, UCF, and SMU. The bottom three (ECU, Tulane, USF) seem to be stuck in reverse, so that's always going to drag the league down, but some combination of the other 9 (UC, Wichita, UConn, Temple, Memphis, Houston, SMU, Tulsa , UCF) should compete for 4-6 bids every year.
But it all starts with UConn, Memphis, and Temple. They need to get back to where they've always been and this conference should be ok.
Simply UConn will not be able to recruit the same level of players. UConn in the Big East, playing the tournament in MSG - yes! UConn in the AAC, playing in Orlando or Memphis or Hartford - no!
You're simply wrong. First off, recruits don't pick a school based on where a 4 day conference tournament is played. It's a cool bonus, but hardly a deciding factor. As far as recruiting the same level of players is concerned, we had a Top 10 recruiting class just last year. We were awful due to having a young, injury-ridden roster. Going forward, two 2018 Top 10 players have UCONN in their Final 5 (mind you we rarely landed Top 10 guys in the Calhoun era). Additionally, UCONN's past successes can be attributed to landing and developing Top 50-100 kids. We'll still be able to land those kind of recruits regardless of our conference affiliation.
Past successes were do to Calhoun and he is gone. The last NCAA Champ team was really Calhoun's.
|
|
08-01-2017 03:23 PM |
|
HuskyU
Big East Overlord
Posts: 22,802
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 1182
I Root For: UCONN
Location: The Big East
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(08-01-2017 03:23 PM)doss2 Wrote: (08-01-2017 12:40 PM)HuskyU Wrote: (07-30-2017 11:23 PM)Ragpicker Wrote: (07-30-2017 07:54 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: (07-29-2017 04:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: ESPN BPI rankings out and we're getting some love there as well:
Preseason 2017-18 College Basketball Power Index (BPI)
BPI RANK TEAM
1 Wichita State
2 Louisville
3 Villanova
4 Notre Dame
5 Arizona
6 West Virginia
7 Purdue
8 Oklahoma
9 TCU
10 Kansas
11 Cincinnati
12 Virginia
13 Kentucky
14 Duke
15 Seton Hall
16 Saint Mary's
17 Michigan State
18 Texas Tech
19 Xavier
20 Alabama
21 Arkansas
22 Providence
23 Iowa
24 Auburn
25 Northwestern
26 North Carolina
27 Florida
28 Minnesota
29 Ohio State
30 Virginia Tech
41 Temple
48 UCF
Blood Pressure Index
If UConn and Memphis programs were on par with where they have been historically, this league would be really solid with the addition on Wichita coupled with the recent improvements of Houston, UCF, and SMU. The bottom three (ECU, Tulane, USF) seem to be stuck in reverse, so that's always going to drag the league down, but some combination of the other 9 (UC, Wichita, UConn, Temple, Memphis, Houston, SMU, Tulsa , UCF) should compete for 4-6 bids every year.
But it all starts with UConn, Memphis, and Temple. They need to get back to where they've always been and this conference should be ok.
Simply UConn will not be able to recruit the same level of players. UConn in the Big East, playing the tournament in MSG - yes! UConn in the AAC, playing in Orlando or Memphis or Hartford - no!
You're simply wrong. First off, recruits don't pick a school based on where a 4 day conference tournament is played. It's a cool bonus, but hardly a deciding factor. As far as recruiting the same level of players is concerned, we had a Top 10 recruiting class just last year. We were awful due to having a young, injury-ridden roster. Going forward, two 2018 Top 10 players have UCONN in their Final 5 (mind you we rarely landed Top 10 guys in the Calhoun era). Additionally, UCONN's past successes can be attributed to landing and developing Top 50-100 kids. We'll still be able to land those kind of recruits regardless of our conference affiliation.
Past successes were do to Calhoun and he is gone. The last NCAA Champ team was really Calhoun's.
Ok, but that wasn't the topic at hand. Your fellow Bearcat said UCONN would take a dive in recruiting post-Calhoun. I believe I proved him wrong with my prior post. If you want to add to the topic at hand, please do.
|
|
08-01-2017 05:07 PM |
|
HuskyU
Big East Overlord
Posts: 22,802
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 1182
I Root For: UCONN
Location: The Big East
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(08-01-2017 01:50 PM)OKIcat Wrote: You're simply wrong. First off, recruits don't pick a school based on where a 4 day conference tournament is played. It's a cool bonus, but hardly a deciding factor. As far as recruiting the same level of players is concerned, we had a Top 10 recruiting class just last year. We were awful due to having a young, injury-ridden roster. Going forward, two 2018 Top 10 players have UCONN in their Final 5 (mind you we rarely landed Top 10 guys in the Calhoun era). Additionally, UCONN's past successes can be attributed to landing and developing Top 50-100 kids. We'll still be able to land those kind of recruits regardless of our conference affiliation.
[/quote from HuskyU]
Speaking for myself, and I suspect many fellow Bearcat fans, we want UCONN to be strong and return to winning a lot and being highly ranked. It's become a great rivalry and I hope it continues here, or competing together in some future power conference scenario. The UC v. UCONN basketball game remains the best rivalry in a young conference, producing some epic battles. Here's hoping both teams are ranked each time the cats and dogs tangle.
Completely agree. Cincinnati has become my #2 team as a result of this mess that we're both in today. I think we'll improve with Ollie, and if not, he will be replaced very soon (i.e. next season). I also believe Edsall will get us back to respectable 7-8 win football seasons (like the old Big East days).
|
|
08-01-2017 05:11 PM |
|
Ragpicker
All American
Posts: 4,962
Joined: May 2005
Reputation: 198
I Root For: Black & Gold
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
I read that the new Husky mascot will adorn a Unicorn horn and fart rainbows this season . The delusion of the AAC kool-aid crowd is Jonestown-esque.
Your best bet is that you get a minor league soccer team to play in Rentschler Field. FCC Hartford.
|
|
08-01-2017 10:57 PM |
|
doss2
Hall of Famer
Posts: 10,647
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation: 141
I Root For: BEARCATS
Location:
|
RE: Jerry Palm Bracketology
(08-01-2017 05:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-01-2017 01:50 PM)OKIcat Wrote: You're simply wrong. First off, recruits don't pick a school based on where a 4 day conference tournament is played. It's a cool bonus, but hardly a deciding factor. As far as recruiting the same level of players is concerned, we had a Top 10 recruiting class just last year. We were awful due to having a young, injury-ridden roster. Going forward, two 2018 Top 10 players have UCONN in their Final 5 (mind you we rarely landed Top 10 guys in the Calhoun era). Additionally, UCONN's past successes can be attributed to landing and developing Top 50-100 kids. We'll still be able to land those kind of recruits regardless of our conference affiliation.
[/quote from HuskyU]
Speaking for myself, and I suspect many fellow Bearcat fans, we want UCONN to be strong and return to winning a lot and being highly ranked. It's become a great rivalry and I hope it continues here, or competing together in some future power conference scenario. The UC v. UCONN basketball game remains the best rivalry in a young conference, producing some epic battles. Here's hoping both teams are ranked each time the cats and dogs tangle.
Completely agree. Cincinnati has become my #2 team as a result of this mess that we're both in today. I think we'll improve with Ollie, and if not, he will be replaced very soon (i.e. next season). I also believe Edsall will get us back to respectable 7-8 win football seasons (like the old Big East days).
I suspect Edsall will get you back to where you were, which is losing 77% (10-3) of the time to UC.
|
|
08-02-2017 07:03 AM |
|