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NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/06/ncaa-...ng-season/
While I would like to think this is for player safety. My cycnical side says this is planning for 10 conference game schedules for 16 team conferences. Schools scheduling 2 FBS opponents and 1 FCS opponents and have those two bye weeks 2024 and 2025. This allows for 7 home games for most Power conferences if it goes to four sixteen team power conferences.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(06-30-2017 01:34 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/06/ncaa-...ng-season/
While I would like to think this is for player safety. My cycnical side says this is planning for 10 conference game schedules for 16 team conferences. Schools scheduling 2 FBS opponents and 1 FCS opponents and have those two bye weeks 2024 and 2025. This allows for 7 home games for most Power conferences if it goes to four sixteen team power conferences.
My cynical side says this is planning for having conference semifinal games in Thanksgiving week, with the CCG the next week.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(06-30-2017 01:38 PM)ken d Wrote: (06-30-2017 01:34 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/06/ncaa-...ng-season/
While I would like to think this is for player safety. My cycnical side says this is planning for 10 conference game schedules for 16 team conferences. Schools scheduling 2 FBS opponents and 1 FCS opponents and have those two bye weeks 2024 and 2025. This allows for 7 home games for most Power conferences if it goes to four sixteen team power conferences.
My cynical side says this is planning for having conference semifinal games in Thanksgiving week, with the CCG the next week.
Much more likely outcome.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
I view the odds of this having anything to do with semi-finals or an expanded season all right now as virtually zero. There is smoke when those kind of things happens long before there are moves (as you need to get a lot of people on board with major rule changes and there is always loud opposition) and the only place I have ever heard anything about semi-finals is speculation from this website.
I think for right now, this move is exactly what it claims to be. There used to be more bye time in a regular season and they want 2 weeks to be the norm.
Now long term, I do fear it makes changes easier, but I think people underestimate how careful the powers-that-be are with major changes to the sport.
(This post was last modified: 06-30-2017 03:27 PM by ohio1317.)
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
Once they go to the P4, you will need some kind of semi final (part of grander Rd16) in place otherwise all other FBS schools will be omitted including independents left out of the P4 alignment. While that is certainly possible, the only way that is is through a new subdivision.
You would have two division winners 1-2 wild cards from each P4, plus a couple of lottery picks from the G5 pool ranked higher than the wild card non division winning P4 schools, including ND.
That way you can have 16 teams and fit it into the calendar year as is currently.
This would at least prioritize winning your division. Also conference championship games would be eliminated or replaced by the regional quarterfinal sites since it's an all inclusive tournament.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(06-30-2017 03:26 PM)ohio1317 Wrote: I think for right now, this move is exactly what it claims to be. There used to be more bye time in a regular season and they want 2 weeks to be the norm.
I agree. Not everything is part of a nefarious conspiracy. Football coaches want an extra bye week every season for preparation and for getting players healthier after minor injuries.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(06-30-2017 03:37 PM)RUScarlets Wrote: Once they go to the P4, you will need some kind of semi final (part of grander Rd16) in place otherwise all other FBS schools will be omitted including independents left out of the P4 alignment. While that is certainly possible, the only way that is is through a new subdivision.
You would have two division winners 1-2 wild cards from each P4, plus a couple of lottery picks from the G5 pool ranked higher than the wild card non division winning P4 schools, including ND.
That way you can have 16 teams and fit it into the calendar year as is currently.
This would at least prioritize winning your division. Also conference championship games would be eliminated or replaced by the regional quarterfinal sites since it's an all inclusive tournament.
Wild cards? Why can't NFL fans stick to the NFL? Why try to change the rules of college football to NFL when you can leave college football alone and continue watching and following the NFL?
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
Well this move will cancel the Hawaii week 0 exception pretty much.
However, I think they should reduce the regular season games from 12 to 11 rather than have a 14 week schedule.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(06-30-2017 06:25 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: (06-30-2017 03:37 PM)RUScarlets Wrote: Once they go to the P4, you will need some kind of semi final (part of grander Rd16) in place otherwise all other FBS schools will be omitted including independents left out of the P4 alignment. While that is certainly possible, the only way that is is through a new subdivision.
You would have two division winners 1-2 wild cards from each P4, plus a couple of lottery picks from the G5 pool ranked higher than the wild card non division winning P4 schools, including ND.
That way you can have 16 teams and fit it into the calendar year as is currently.
This would at least prioritize winning your division. Also conference championship games would be eliminated or replaced by the regional quarterfinal sites since it's an all inclusive tournament.
Wild cards? Why can't NFL fans stick to the NFL? Why try to change the rules of college football to NFL when you can leave college football alone and continue watching and following the NFL?
Except not enough people are watching or going to these bowl games so it's going to happen in another 20-30 years, but I'm with you, I like the Final Four as it is now.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(06-30-2017 01:38 PM)ken d Wrote: (06-30-2017 01:34 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/06/ncaa-...ng-season/
While I would like to think this is for player safety. My cycnical side says this is planning for 10 conference game schedules for 16 team conferences. Schools scheduling 2 FBS opponents and 1 FCS opponents and have those two bye weeks 2024 and 2025. This allows for 7 home games for most Power conferences if it goes to four sixteen team power conferences.
My cynical side says this is planning for having conference semifinal games in Thanksgiving week, with the CCG the next week.
That would be awesome! Four day weekend filled with college football conference playoffs!!! Yes please!
I'd like four conferences of 20 teams. 5 teams per division. You play the four other division teams plus two from each other division each year.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
I don't know about this semi-final thing, it always seemed like a sham to get more schools to that coveted thirteenth game that only a few privileged schools get.
At this point, give the little babies what they want. Cat's been out of the bag with this one long enough.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
Why are 128 FBS presidents going to vote to extend the regular season a week ... just so that a handful of schools can participate in "semi-final" games?
The benefit, clearly, that could be gained by all teams is to get another BYE week. And that is a great thing.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(07-01-2017 05:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: Why are 128 FBS presidents going to vote to extend the regular season a week ... just so that a handful of schools can participate in "semi-final" games?
The benefit, clearly, that could be gained by all teams is to get another BYE week. And that is a great thing.
That would be a great thing that doesn't bring in a dime of additional revenue for anybody. Conference semis bring in mega-millions that directly benefit half of those presidents' schools. If those 65 schools don't get what they want, they will assert their autonomy, backed by tons of leverage, to make it happen.
That's not to say those presidents want it (now). But if they do, it will happen.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(07-01-2017 05:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: Why are 128 FBS presidents going to vote to extend the regular season a week ... just so that a handful of schools can participate in "semi-final" games?
The benefit, clearly, that could be gained by all teams is to get another BYE week. And that is a great thing.
$$$
Head coaches might prefer the extra bye week but the only thing the university presidents who are making these decisions will be able to see is the extra revenue those semi-final games would generate.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(07-01-2017 05:32 PM)ken d Wrote: (07-01-2017 05:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: Why are 128 FBS presidents going to vote to extend the regular season a week ... just so that a handful of schools can participate in "semi-final" games?
The benefit, clearly, that could be gained by all teams is to get another BYE week. And that is a great thing.
That would be a great thing that doesn't bring in a dime of additional revenue for anybody. Conference semis bring in mega-millions that directly benefit half of those presidents' schools. If those 65 schools don't get what they want, they will assert their autonomy, backed by tons of leverage, to make it happen.
That's not to say those presidents want it (now). But if they do, it will happen.
You don't think the extra week will provide additional revenue? I think it would as long as some of the schools are playing each week and therefore producing a product to be sold through the media. No extra ticket revenue or gameday sales will be made for the individual but an extra week of television will net the school's conference more money to split.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(07-01-2017 05:32 PM)ken d Wrote: That would be a great thing that doesn't bring in a dime of additional revenue for anybody.
But it doesn't cost anything. And it does have benefit, of resting, which can indirectly affect actual revenue generating activities (star player healed up to play in a game).
So your argument doesn't fly.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(07-01-2017 10:13 PM)GE and MTS Wrote: (07-01-2017 05:32 PM)ken d Wrote: (07-01-2017 05:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: Why are 128 FBS presidents going to vote to extend the regular season a week ... just so that a handful of schools can participate in "semi-final" games?
The benefit, clearly, that could be gained by all teams is to get another BYE week. And that is a great thing.
That would be a great thing that doesn't bring in a dime of additional revenue for anybody. Conference semis bring in mega-millions that directly benefit half of those presidents' schools. If those 65 schools don't get what they want, they will assert their autonomy, backed by tons of leverage, to make it happen.
That's not to say those presidents want it (now). But if they do, it will happen.
You don't think the extra week will provide additional revenue? I think it would as long as some of the schools are playing each week and therefore producing a product to be sold through the media. No extra ticket revenue or gameday sales will be made for the individual but an extra week of television will net the school's conference more money to split.
Having an extra week to give every team an additional bye week spread across the season wouldn't generate extra income from media partners as the schools/conferences aren't providing any additional content that they haven't already sold off. Wouldn't make much sense for ESPN/Fox to pay more money for content that they already own.
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NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
But most weeks there is excess content going to network sub channels, ESPN News, ESPN3, Fox regionals.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
(07-02-2017 05:44 PM)arkstfan Wrote: But most weeks there is excess content going to network sub channels, ESPN News, ESPN3, Fox regionals.
Conferences might not like the content falls onto a lower tier platform like an ESPNews or Fox Sports 2 but the networks do like having content even if it is just the back end content fall onto those channels as it increases viewership across them. Its the same reason why Fox put the Texas/Oklahoma game on FS1 this past year even though it is without question the marquee game under the B12 media package.
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RE: NCAA examining permenant 14 week schedule
Lol, you can tell how many people actually read the article. The SEC coaches are against it, which means the SEC is against it which automatically means we should all be for it. From a fans or player perspective, what's not to like? Who cares what the multi millionaire coaches want. What are they going to do, go to the NFL because it's less work???
(This post was last modified: 07-02-2017 08:01 PM by Shox.)
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