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RE: Boom
(06-30-2017 10:36 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:31 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 09:06 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 09:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Saul talks about their recruiting style.

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...87971.html


Q: Do you enjoy the recruiting part of it, the grinding and making the calls? I get the feeling (fellow Memphis assistant coach) Joe (Esposito) loves that part of it. He seems to really eat it up. Or do you enjoy the Xs and Os (of coaching) more?

A: Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that.

What a great quote...
What if Bartow had said that about Kenon
Kirk about Lee
Finch about Hardaway
Calipari about Rose

all of whom, along with hundreds of others, had other offers and spent some time waiting and thinking about where they were going to go.

Whatta maroon, that's second hand, of course, never met Hillary or Donald either, but, I got an opinion.

The players you cite were interested in our program. You failed.

From what I remember we waited a long time for Hardaway to commit. Finch was a different time. Wasn't long after the MLK assassination. And I think everyone knows about the whole Lee situation. He was originally going to Arkansas State.

The players above were elite recruits. Not the same. No coach would walk away from Penny Hardaway if the coach thought they had a legit shot. The Saul obsession is 'Russianisk'.
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RE: Boom
(06-30-2017 09:06 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 09:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Saul talks about their recruiting style.

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...87971.html


Q: Do you enjoy the recruiting part of it, the grinding and making the calls? I get the feeling (fellow Memphis assistant coach) Joe (Esposito) loves that part of it. He seems to really eat it up. Or do you enjoy the Xs and Os (of coaching) more?

A: Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that.

What a great quote...
What if Bartow had said that about Kenon
Kirk about Lee
Finch about Hardaway
Calipari about Rose

all of whom, along with hundreds of others, had other offers and spent some time waiting and thinking about where they were going to go.

Whatta maroon, that's second hand, of course, never met Hillary or Donald either, but, I got an opinion.

All coaches make offers that are not accepted. Then coaches move on - only so many hours in the day, they have to be find the right recruits that will come to their school.
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RE: Boom
(06-30-2017 09:06 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 09:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Saul talks about their recruiting style.

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...87971.html


Q: Do you enjoy the recruiting part of it, the grinding and making the calls? I get the feeling (fellow Memphis assistant coach) Joe (Esposito) loves that part of it. He seems to really eat it up. Or do you enjoy the Xs and Os (of coaching) more?

A: Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that.

What a great quote...
What if Bartow had said that about Kenon
Kirk about Lee
Finch about Hardaway
Calipari about Rose

all of whom, along with hundreds of others, had other offers and spent some time waiting and thinking about where they were going to go.

Whatta maroon, that's second hand, of course, never met Hillary or Donald either, but, I got an opinion.

That is bad PR and should have been stated better...

He sounds lazy and like he doesn't want to put in work...

But Cal use to do this...Heck one example was CDR vs PJ
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Coaches that care about winning put in the TIME to recruit a player they really want.

Split second ultimatums after barely recruiting a kid are rude at the very least.

Successful recruiters don't do that.

Seems pretty simple to me but then again #162
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Not only that, but there was more than just being "willing to wait" on those players.
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RE: Boom
(06-29-2017 09:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Saul talks about their recruiting style.

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...87971.html


Q: Do you enjoy the recruiting part of it, the grinding and making the calls? I get the feeling (fellow Memphis assistant coach) Joe (Esposito) loves that part of it. He seems to really eat it up. Or do you enjoy the Xs and Os (of coaching) more?

A: Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that.



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RE: Boom
(06-30-2017 10:31 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 09:06 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 09:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Saul talks about their recruiting style.

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...87971.html


Q: Do you enjoy the recruiting part of it, the grinding and making the calls? I get the feeling (fellow Memphis assistant coach) Joe (Esposito) loves that part of it. He seems to really eat it up. Or do you enjoy the Xs and Os (of coaching) more?

A: Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that.

What a great quote...
What if Bartow had said that about Kenon
Kirk about Lee
Finch about Hardaway
Calipari about Rose

all of whom, along with hundreds of others, had other offers and spent some time waiting and thinking about where they were going to go.

Whatta maroon, that's second hand, of course, never met Hillary or Donald either, but, I got an opinion.

The players you cite were interested in our program. You failed.

Keith Lee was going to Arkansas State. Until they were placed on probation for his recruitment.
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Wait . . . so we are only allowed to talk about a player if it's in a positive light? It's a discussion board, why can't we talk about our opinion on a player? I do agree that it should stick to their basketball skills though. Might want to let the Tubby lovers know that considering they have said some harsh things about former players.
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Maybe recruiting used to work like that...but not anymore. You tell a skilled player that you have three more recruits lined up, when it's not the truth...and you are liable to find out he has 6 more colleges lined up, which are the truth.
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(07-01-2017 01:17 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  Maybe recruiting used to work like that...but not anymore. You tell a skilled player that you have three more recruits lined up, when it's not the truth...and you are liable to find out he has 6 more colleges lined up, which are the truth.
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RE: Boom
(06-30-2017 10:31 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 09:06 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 09:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Saul talks about their recruiting style.

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...87971.html


Q: Do you enjoy the recruiting part of it, the grinding and making the calls? I get the feeling (fellow Memphis assistant coach) Joe (Esposito) loves that part of it. He seems to really eat it up. Or do you enjoy the Xs and Os (of coaching) more?

A: Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that.

What a great quote...
What if Bartow had said that about Kenon
Kirk about Lee
Finch about Hardaway
Calipari about Rose

all of whom, along with hundreds of others, had other offers and spent some time waiting and thinking about where they were going to go.

Whatta maroon, that's second hand, of course, never met Hillary or Donald either, but, I got an opinion.

The players you cite were interested in our program. You failed.

"when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do"...
"And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great."

No, you do. (fail, that is)
Lee was considering all his "options" including ASU, Hardawway's signing day announcement between us and Arkansas, Kenon was changing planes in Texas to go to another school when Wayne Yates caught up to him at a Texas airport, Rose was "going" to Illinois, if any of our coaches had taken Saul's approach, we wouldn't have had any of those players which is the only reason we have a great basketball history. Take out those 4 players and we aren't any better than Ole Miss.
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LOL
The Saul bashing is still going on.

This thread was about Rhodes and Esposito so maybe let's steer it back that way.

What do you all think about Rhodes spelling Martin? Is he capable enough to hold down the fort or will our offense crumble ala last season when Kesse or Clergeot subbed in for Martin?
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RE: Boom
(07-01-2017 09:12 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:31 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 09:06 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 09:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Saul talks about their recruiting style.

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...87971.html


Q: Do you enjoy the recruiting part of it, the grinding and making the calls? I get the feeling (fellow Memphis assistant coach) Joe (Esposito) loves that part of it. He seems to really eat it up. Or do you enjoy the Xs and Os (of coaching) more?

A: Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that.

What a great quote...
What if Bartow had said that about Kenon
Kirk about Lee
Finch about Hardaway
Calipari about Rose

all of whom, along with hundreds of others, had other offers and spent some time waiting and thinking about where they were going to go.

Whatta maroon, that's second hand, of course, never met Hillary or Donald either, but, I got an opinion.

The players you cite were interested in our program. You failed.

"when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do"...
"And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great."

No, you do. (fail, that is)
Lee was considering all his "options" including ASU, Hardawway's signing day announcement between us and Arkansas, Kenon was changing planes in Texas to go to another school when Wayne Yates caught up to him at a Texas airport, Rose was "going" to Illinois, if any of our coaches had taken Saul's approach, we wouldn't have had any of those players which is the only reason we have a great basketball history. Take out those 4 players and we aren't any better than Ole Miss.

I though Kenon was going hardship route to the ABA/NBA?
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(07-01-2017 10:08 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  LOL
The Saul bashing is still going on.

This thread was about Rhodes and Esposito so maybe let's steer it back that way.

What do you all think about Rhodes spelling Martin? Is he capable enough to hold down the fort or will our offense crumble ala last season when Kesse or Clergeot subbed in for Martin?

He seems to be a capable ball handler. He seems to embrace the chance to play for Memphis has a fresh start. He has shown he can shoot the 3 before and has length that we will not lose when Martin goes to the bench. I think he will be a solid player for us. Nothing flashy or dynamic. Just doing his job
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(07-01-2017 10:50 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 10:08 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  LOL
The Saul bashing is still going on.

This thread was about Rhodes and Esposito so maybe let's steer it back that way.

What do you all think about Rhodes spelling Martin? Is he capable enough to hold down the fort or will our offense crumble ala last season when Kesse or Clergeot subbed in for Martin?

He seems to be a capable ball handler. He seems to embrace the chance to play for Memphis has a fresh start. He has shown he can shoot the 3 before and has length that we will not lose when Martin goes to the bench. I think he will be a solid player for us. Nothing flashy or dynamic. Just doing his job

I hope so. We need stability in the 2nd unit.
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As far as Saul saying that he'll tell a kid they have 3 more guys they are looking at, I don't think he was saying he would lie to them. I think he meant if they are looking at other kids, they will tell a kid that. Btw Tubbys character should NEVER be called into question, that's one thing that he doesn't lack.
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As far as the words 'lined up' go, I should have quoted Saul's words, which were 'in mind': We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.'

#bravado

And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that.


Talented players do not grow on trees. But the character of our coaches is not in question..just their style.
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OMG

Still on Saul bashing esp on a thread about a new commit and Joe. SMDH
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(07-01-2017 11:11 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  OMG

Still on Saul bashing esp on a thread about a new commit and Joe. SMDH

And by a collective group of miserables who have never recruited the 1st athlete to any program - yet they are experts in how it is to be done........03-lmfao
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(07-02-2017 07:13 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 11:11 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  OMG

Still on Saul bashing esp on a thread about a new commit and Joe. SMDH

And by a collective group of miserables who have never recruited the 1st athlete to any program - yet they are experts in how it is to be done........03-lmfao

IKR.
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