yawn

(06-07-2017 09:28 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 08:02 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 07:57 AM)gusrob Wrote:  Don't care about what he says. Only care about season results. MEMPHIS has the infrastructure and talent around the program (in city) to produce a Sweet16 team AT LEAST every decade.

Agree. What do you think is the result of a very good team Tubby predicts?

Can't stop, can you. Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep dark, depression, excessive misery.... If it weren't for bad luck.....

Wow, bet you're a lot of fun... Tubby, Saul, Tubby, Saul, not enough stars, waaaaa. Rinse. Repeat.

Dude, get a life!

Care to add any thoughts of substance? It's a message board. Not a university safe place for snowflakes. If you can't take it, don't read it. Go to ESPN.com for fluffy written pieces.

(06-08-2017 11:14 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 09:28 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 08:02 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 07:57 AM)gusrob Wrote:  Don't care about what he says. Only care about season results. MEMPHIS has the infrastructure and talent around the program (in city) to produce a Sweet16 team AT LEAST every decade.

Agree. What do you think is the result of a very good team Tubby predicts?

Can't stop, can you. Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep dark, depression, excessive misery.... If it weren't for bad luck.....

Wow, bet you're a lot of fun... Tubby, Saul, Tubby, Saul, not enough stars, waaaaa. Rinse. Repeat.

Dude, get a life!

Care to add any thoughts of substance? It's a message board. Not a university safe place for snowflakes. If you can't take it, don't read it. Go to ESPN.com for fluffy written pieces.

Yawn...

(06-08-2017 11:22 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:14 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 09:28 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 08:02 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 07:57 AM)gusrob Wrote:  Don't care about what he says. Only care about season results. MEMPHIS has the infrastructure and talent around the program (in city) to produce a Sweet16 team AT LEAST every decade.

Agree. What do you think is the result of a very good team Tubby predicts?

Can't stop, can you. Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep dark, depression, excessive misery.... If it weren't for bad luck.....

Wow, bet you're a lot of fun... Tubby, Saul, Tubby, Saul, not enough stars, waaaaa. Rinse. Repeat.

Dude, get a life!

Care to add any thoughts of substance? It's a message board. Not a university safe place for snowflakes. If you can't take it, don't read it. Go to ESPN.com for fluffy written pieces.

Yawn...

You seem exhausted. Apparently, you only have enough energy to flame him instead of answering a very legitimate question.

(06-08-2017 12:23 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:22 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:14 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 09:28 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 08:02 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Agree. What do you think is the result of a very good team Tubby predicts?

Can't stop, can you. Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep dark, depression, excessive misery.... If it weren't for bad luck.....

Wow, bet you're a lot of fun... Tubby, Saul, Tubby, Saul, not enough stars, waaaaa. Rinse. Repeat.

Dude, get a life!

Care to add any thoughts of substance? It's a message board. Not a university safe place for snowflakes. If you can't take it, don't read it. Go to ESPN.com for fluffy written pieces.

Yawn...

You seem exhausted. Apparently, you only have enough energy to flame him instead of answering a very legitimate question.

Is it necessary to give a legitimate reply to someone that says the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again?

"Tubby says we'll be a very good team, so I expect second round of the NCAA"... Blah, blah, blah.

Most of know he inherited a **** show. We've sunk to the levels of having to hire a dad to land recruits. Tubby didn't want him on the bench, and thats his choice (since he is the head coach overall). So as a compromise, he kept him on staff and gave him a 20k raise. Not a bad deal, right? But obviously, the Lawson's felt slighted and the dad was pissed and his son's basically quit on the team. At that point, I personally wanted them out. So, they staged a big scene when leaving, including air time for Keelon, a middle finger to Memphis fans, and KJ telling Tubby to F himself. Yet, we still have those that think they should still be here...

Ok, so this turmoil helps Markel decide to leave. I think all of us expected him to leave, so it's not a big surprise. Randle left because he couldn't get playing time even with a short roster. I'm not sure about Keon, he wasn't that good anyway, so who cares? Chad, well, I think it was definitely for the best, he shouldn't consider playing any more with his history of injuries. I still think it's great that he gave it a shot....

So, we have no team in April. We have a one year out of JC player and Martin. Not a real core by any means. Tubby scrambled and did a decent job filling a team with the best available. That said, most of us agree that this isn't going to be a great team. I hope I'm wrong. But things desperately needed to change here and I think a reboot was necessary. He had a decent group of freshman signed and we've got some strong Jucos. It will be a real rebuilding year.

Unlike most of you, Saul isn't the demise of Memphis basketball. It's been going downhill for sometime. We are overlooked by local kids now after 7 years of Pastner. We are just what Pastner hoped we wouldn't become, irrelevant. Attendance is dropping (and has before Tubby got here) and we all know that Memphis will only support a winner.

So can Tubby turn it around? I really don't know. I know that I have no control of hiring and firing of coaches. I know that I support our teams. Of course I miss the days of winning big (Calipari years), but I know we have been in decline for awhile. Tubby deserves criticism for lack of recruiting when he got here. He needed to fill a few holes and add some depth last year. He started way to late and we ended up with Kessee, Chad, and Keon. None were what we needed.

I do think Tubby has awakened from hibernation. He hit the recruiting trail very hard after we lost our players. He beat out P5 teams for his signees and barely lost out on a few more. They seem to be working 2018 very hard. He's a proud man and doesn't want to go out a loser. I guess that gives me optimism. Despite all of this, I support the team (and the coach by default) and I re-up my season tickets every year. I'm looking forward to next year for some reason.

Is that a reasonable response?

(06-09-2017 01:37 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:23 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:22 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:14 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 09:28 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Can't stop, can you. Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep dark, depression, excessive misery.... If it weren't for bad luck.....

Wow, bet you're a lot of fun... Tubby, Saul, Tubby, Saul, not enough stars, waaaaa. Rinse. Repeat.

Dude, get a life!

Care to add any thoughts of substance? It's a message board. Not a university safe place for snowflakes. If you can't take it, don't read it. Go to ESPN.com for fluffy written pieces.

Yawn...

You seem exhausted. Apparently, you only have enough energy to flame him instead of answering a very legitimate question.

Is it necessary to give a legitimate reply to someone that says the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again?

"Tubby says we'll be a very good team, so I expect second round of the NCAA"... Blah, blah, blah.

Most of know he inherited a **** show. We've sunk to the levels of having to hire a dad to land recruits. Tubby didn't want him on the bench, and thats his choice (since he is the head coach overall). So as a compromise, he kept him on staff and gave him a 20k raise. Not a bad deal, right? But obviously, the Lawson's felt slighted and the dad was pissed and his son's basically quit on the team. At that point, I personally wanted them out. So, they staged a big scene when leaving, including air time for Keelon, a middle finger to Memphis fans, and KJ telling Tubby to F himself. Yet, we still have those that think they should still be here...

Ok, so this turmoil helps Markel decide to leave. I think all of us expected him to leave, so it's not a big surprise. Randle left because he couldn't get playing time even with a short roster. I'm not sure about Keon, he wasn't that good anyway, so who cares? Chad, well, I think it was definitely for the best, he shouldn't consider playing any more with his history of injuries. I still think it's great that he gave it a shot....

So, we have no team in April. We have a one year out of JC player and Martin. Not a real core by any means. Tubby scrambled and did a decent job filling a team with the best available. That said, most of us agree that this isn't going to be a great team. I hope I'm wrong. But things desperately needed to change here and I think a reboot was necessary. He had a decent group of freshman signed and we've got some strong Jucos. It will be a real rebuilding year.

Unlike most of you, Saul isn't the demise of Memphis basketball. It's been going downhill for sometime. We are overlooked by local kids now after 7 years of Pastner. We are just what Pastner hoped we wouldn't become, irrelevant. Attendance is dropping (and has before Tubby got here) and we all know that Memphis will only support a winner.

So can Tubby turn it around? I really don't know. I know that I have no control of hiring and firing of coaches. I know that I support our teams. Of course I miss the days of winning big (Calipari years), but I know we have been in decline for awhile. Tubby deserves criticism for lack of recruiting when he got here. He needed to fill a few holes and add some depth last year. He started way to late and we ended up with Kessee, Chad, and Keon. None were what we needed.

I do think Tubby has awakened from hibernation. He hit the recruiting trail very hard after we lost our players. He beat out P5 teams for his signees and barely lost out on a few more. They seem to be working 2018 very hard. He's a proud man and doesn't want to go out a loser. I guess that gives me optimism. Despite all of this, I support the team (and the coach by default) and I re-up my season tickets every year. I'm looking forward to next year for some reason.

Is that a reasonable response?

They won't get it man. They will call you a Tubby lover instead of a practical fan.

(06-09-2017 01:37 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:23 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:22 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:14 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 09:28 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Can't stop, can you. Gloom, despair, and agony on me. Deep dark, depression, excessive misery.... If it weren't for bad luck.....

Wow, bet you're a lot of fun... Tubby, Saul, Tubby, Saul, not enough stars, waaaaa. Rinse. Repeat.

Dude, get a life!

Care to add any thoughts of substance? It's a message board. Not a university safe place for snowflakes. If you can't take it, don't read it. Go to ESPN.com for fluffy written pieces.

Yawn...

You seem exhausted. Apparently, you only have enough energy to flame him instead of answering a very legitimate question.

Is it necessary to give a legitimate reply to someone that says the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again?

"Tubby says we'll be a very good team, so I expect second round of the NCAA"... Blah, blah, blah.

Most of know he inherited a **** show. We've sunk to the levels of having to hire a dad to land recruits. Tubby didn't want him on the bench, and thats his choice (since he is the head coach overall). So as a compromise, he kept him on staff and gave him a 20k raise. Not a bad deal, right? But obviously, the Lawson's felt slighted and the dad was pissed and his son's basically quit on the team. At that point, I personally wanted them out. So, they staged a big scene when leaving, including air time for Keelon, a middle finger to Memphis fans, and KJ telling Tubby to F himself. Yet, we still have those that think they should still be here...

Ok, so this turmoil helps Markel decide to leave. I think all of us expected him to leave, so it's not a big surprise. Randle left because he couldn't get playing time even with a short roster. I'm not sure about Keon, he wasn't that good anyway, so who cares? Chad, well, I think it was definitely for the best, he shouldn't consider playing any more with his history of injuries. I still think it's great that he gave it a shot....

So, we have no team in April. We have a one year out of JC player and Martin. Not a real core by any means. Tubby scrambled and did a decent job filling a team with the best available. That said, most of us agree that this isn't going to be a great team. I hope I'm wrong. But things desperately needed to change here and I think a reboot was necessary. He had a decent group of freshman signed and we've got some strong Jucos. It will be a real rebuilding year.

Unlike most of you, Saul isn't the demise of Memphis basketball. It's been going downhill for sometime. We are overlooked by local kids now after 7 years of Pastner. We are just what Pastner hoped we wouldn't become, irrelevant. Attendance is dropping (and has before Tubby got here) and we all know that Memphis will only support a winner.

So can Tubby turn it around? I really don't know. I know that I have no control of hiring and firing of coaches. I know that I support our teams. Of course I miss the days of winning big (Calipari years), but I know we have been in decline for awhile. Tubby deserves criticism for lack of recruiting when he got here. He needed to fill a few holes and add some depth last year. He started way to late and we ended up with Kessee, Chad, and Keon. None were what we needed.

I do think Tubby has awakened from hibernation. He hit the recruiting trail very hard after we lost our players. He beat out P5 teams for his signees and barely lost out on a few more. They seem to be working 2018 very hard. He's a proud man and doesn't want to go out a loser. I guess that gives me optimism. Despite all of this, I support the team (and the coach by default) and I re-up my season tickets every year. I'm looking forward to next year for some reason.

Is that a reasonable response?

I think that sounds perfectly fair.

Tubby may not have the talent that was on last years team, although I think the two best players were Detric and Jeramiah. The Tigers have something they didn't have last year and that's bodies. We only had 6 really serviceable players on last year roster and we still won 19 games. This years team will be huge! I've seen some of the bodies myself. Not many little skinny dudes. Just saying don't be surprised if old ball coach has a few tricks up his sleeve!

About 3/4 of our Sweet 16's came in two 4-year sequences with two very good 4-year team's. I'd rather build the program into that type of scenario than settle for one every ten years, but that's just me.

The last guy had plenty of time and couldn't get it done -- not even the one in ten years variety. If the current coach gets us to that point, he'll probably retire shortly thereafter, and if he doesn't, he'll be gone one way or the other.

So, (1) I agree with Bluebacker that he's probably our coach for another few years, and (2) personally, I see a difference between Memphis and Texas Tech or Minnesota. Those two factors are enough to motivate me to sit back and let the cards play out. I'd hate to have to struggle with whether I'm happy or sad when these guys win a game next season, so I'm just going to cheer for them and hope they do. I suspect the other stuff will take care of itself.