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Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
The A-10 already has a challenge.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 11:38 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The A-10 already has a challenge.

Well crap. I don't know, Big East then? I don't care.




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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
I'd prefer to do a big east challenge but agree a challenge of any sort would help bolster brand recognition and help teams not named uconn in scheduling.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
Honestly, we don't need a challenge. We need to establish league wide minimum requirements for OOC basketball scheduling. That would do far more than any challenge we could scare up at this point.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
A10 is probably more our speed right now. The Big East would crush the AAC.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 12:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  A10 is probably more our speed right now. The Big East would crush the AAC.

and the Big East already does one with the Big 10
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
thanks but no thanks

our top 2 teams are down it still heavily benefits them more than us
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 12:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  A10 is probably more our speed right now. The Big East would crush the AAC.

would they? maybe in 2016. Going forward? Im not so sure.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
Glad Rothstein set everyone straight early in his article:

Understand this: Neither conference will be confused with the Power 5 or the Big East in men’s basketball.

Yeah...conf strength never ever changes (i.e. obviously never ever goes up or down...always remains the same)
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 12:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  A10 is probably more our speed right now. The Big East would crush the AAC.

Why? Memphis played Providence really close last year and probably should of won that game if it wasn't for DL getting in foul trouble.

Providence came in 3rd in the BE. I think UCF, Cincinnati, SMU, Witcha State, Houston, UConn, Temple, and Tulsa could beat them.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 12:49 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 12:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  A10 is probably more our speed right now. The Big East would crush the AAC.

Why? Memphis played Providence really close last year and probably should of won that game if it wasn't for DL getting in foul trouble.

Providence came in 3rd in the BE. I think UCF, Cincinnati, SMU, Witcha State, Houston, UConn, Temple, and Tulsa could beat them.

Agree and UCF played Villanova close. Cinci or SMU would have beaten villanova last year, imo.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
"Understand this: Neither conference will be confused with the Power 5 or the Big East in men’s basketball."

WTF.

A couple brand names in the Big P., the carryover dregs from the old Big East (Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall, etc.), a regionally out of place never-done-nothin', perennial one-and-done in the NCAA's with Creighton, a surging Johnny-Come-Lately in Butler...

UConn, Cincy, Memphis, SMU, Shockers...

If the AD would have asked me to pick between the Big Priest and the AAC on my preferred choice of conferences, I would have chosen the Big P.... but just barely. The tie-breaker being the fact that the P. is basketball-only and I think we would have received more revenue sharing. This conference has absolutely every chance in the world to be a better basketball conference than the P. but there needs to be more television revenue. BCS football without the big dollars rolling in is a legitimate threat to maintaining national competitiveness in basketball.


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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 12:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  A10 is probably more our speed right now. The Big East would crush the AAC.

Nobody is this dumb... gotta be bait.


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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 12:31 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  Glad Rothstein set everyone straight early in his article:

Understand this: Neither conference will be confused with the Power 5 or the Big East in men’s basketball.

Yeah...conf strength never ever changes (i.e. obviously never ever goes up or down...always remains the same)

I think he's correct that the A10 will never be confused as a power conference in MBB. The AAC will. There are a lot of brand name teams in the AAC.
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Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
Can't call yourself P6 if you're going to do a challenge with the A-10, despite the fact they are a good conference.
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Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 01:19 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Can't call yourself P6 if you're going to do a challenge with the A-10, despite the fact they are a good conference.


Exactly

As someone just said to me on this topic, we have to protect perceptions
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 01:19 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Can't call yourself P6 if you're going to do a challenge with the A-10, despite the fact they are a good conference.

Big east or nothing. What is dead may never die
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.
UCF was supposed to play butler at home this year but butler backed out and instead scheduled St. Louis.

I agree with you, I think AAC would win this matchup quite handily.
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