(05-17-2017 01:29 PM)banker Wrote:  Correct answer - I don't take sick days unless an ambulance has to take me to a hospital and they won't let me out, so I wouldn't know.

(05-17-2017 06:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The answer is...i have no idea, i cant remember it ever being something ive had to consider personally.

* unless you are applying to for an HR job.

Ah ... OK, I see the silly game now.

Can't say I've ever been asked such a silly question during an interview, but then again I've only worked for legitimate businesses.


But thank you for the lesson. You never know who is going to interview you. I suppose if I encounter a question of that nature in the future, I'll answer something like "I'll review whatever policy you have in place, and if I have a concern with it I can discuss with HR."

(05-18-2017 09:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 01:29 PM)banker Wrote:  Correct answer - I don't take sick days unless an ambulance has to take me to a hospital and they won't let me out, so I wouldn't know.

(05-17-2017 06:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The answer is...i have no idea, i cant remember it ever being something ive had to consider personally.

* unless you are applying to for an HR job.

Ah ... OK, I see the silly game now.

Can't say I've ever been asked such a silly question during an interview, but then again I've only worked for legitimate businesses.


But thank you for the lesson. You never know who is going to interview you. I suppose if I encounter a question of that nature in the future, I'll answer something like "I'll review whatever policy you have in place, and if I have a concern with it I can discuss with HR."

You won't have to discuss it with HR, because you won't be getting the job. So no worries.

(05-18-2017 09:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 01:29 PM)banker Wrote:  Correct answer - I don't take sick days unless an ambulance has to take me to a hospital and they won't let me out, so I wouldn't know.

(05-17-2017 06:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The answer is...i have no idea, i cant remember it ever being something ive had to consider personally.

* unless you are applying to for an HR job.

Ah ... OK, I see the silly game now.

Can't say I've ever been asked such a silly question during an interview, but then again I've only worked for legitimate businesses.


But thank you for the lesson. You never know who is going to interview you. I suppose if I encounter a question of that nature in the future, I'll answer something like "I'll review whatever policy you have in place, and if I have a concern with it I can discuss with HR."

The only legitimate thing about a company who hires someone with your mindset of taking sick days is that they are legitimately screwed.

You see, we dont want our good, faithful employees to keep getting screwed over by people like you. You know, you people who really wanted off on a Friday to go to that concert, but dont have any PTO time because you use that up the moment any accrues. So you simply wait until the Friday to call in "sick", putting a strain on all of the decent employees.

Its why legitimate companies like mine have eliminated "sick days" and simply gone to PTO. Sick days werent being used by the good employees, and abused by the sh*tty ones.

(05-18-2017 10:09 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  companies like mine have eliminated "sick days" and simply gone to PTO. Sick days werent being used by the good employees, and abused by the sh*tty ones.

You see, you could have just cut to this chase directly, instead of playing a silly game.

Then I could have immediately replied: "that is not an invalid business policy, and I don't have a problem with such a policy." Which is true!


Why isn't that the easier and better way, for us to exchange ideas??

(05-18-2017 10:09 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 09:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 01:29 PM)banker Wrote:  Correct answer - I don't take sick days unless an ambulance has to take me to a hospital and they won't let me out, so I wouldn't know.

(05-17-2017 06:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The answer is...i have no idea, i cant remember it ever being something ive had to consider personally.

* unless you are applying to for an HR job.

Ah ... OK, I see the silly game now.

Can't say I've ever been asked such a silly question during an interview, but then again I've only worked for legitimate businesses.


But thank you for the lesson. You never know who is going to interview you. I suppose if I encounter a question of that nature in the future, I'll answer something like "I'll review whatever policy you have in place, and if I have a concern with it I can discuss with HR."

Its why legitimate companies like mine have eliminated "sick days" and simply gone to PTO. Sick days werent being used by the good employees, and abused by the sh*tty ones.

I get the reasoning of the above; however, going strictly PTO days just makes people come into work sick, etc. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

That said, the whole point of accruing sick days, as I always understood it was:

1,2, and 3) sick days are your defacto "short term disability", if something goes terribly wrong

4) if you really, truly are contagious ... why risk the health of the rest of the office??

(05-18-2017 10:15 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 10:09 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 09:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 01:29 PM)banker Wrote:  Correct answer - I don't take sick days unless an ambulance has to take me to a hospital and they won't let me out, so I wouldn't know.

(05-17-2017 06:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The answer is...i have no idea, i cant remember it ever being something ive had to consider personally.

* unless you are applying to for an HR job.

Ah ... OK, I see the silly game now.

Can't say I've ever been asked such a silly question during an interview, but then again I've only worked for legitimate businesses.


But thank you for the lesson. You never know who is going to interview you. I suppose if I encounter a question of that nature in the future, I'll answer something like "I'll review whatever policy you have in place, and if I have a concern with it I can discuss with HR."

Its why legitimate companies like mine have eliminated "sick days" and simply gone to PTO. Sick days werent being used by the good employees, and abused by the sh*tty ones.

I get the reasoning of the above; however, going strictly PTO days just makes people come into work sick, etc. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

With a proper setup, it can be mostly avoided.

My company allows everyone immediate access to 40 hours of PTO to start the year, PLUS we have to floating holidays we can use at any time. This allows employees to take off a week of vacation in January or early spring, and still have two days of PTO available in case they get sick.

So, if they get sick and dont have any accrued PTO because they burn through it whenever they get 4 hours built up, they will be sent home without pay. They need to learn to be more responsible with their PTO time. The company gives them plenty to schedule in case they get sick and need it.

My firm provides 15 PTO days, or 120 hours at the beginning of the year for anything. If things get too severe, you can just take FMLA, which is what my Managing Partner is doing right now.

(05-18-2017 10:41 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  So, if they get sick and dont have any accrued PTO ... they will be sent home without pay.

No one takes PTO, for fear of being sick. Terrible policy.

I hope people come in sick and infect a lot of the office, multiple times per year.

(05-18-2017 11:01 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 10:41 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  So, if they get sick and dont have any accrued PTO ... they will be sent home without pay.

No one takes PTO, for fear of being sick. Terrible policy.

I hope people come in sick and infect a lot of the office, multiple times per year.

of course you would, antifa.

didnt you just use the line "I didnt sow any of that" in the other thread?

And you will never have to worry about my companies PTO policy. You tripped the filter.

Well of course I wouldn't apply to a company that has such a foolish policy, in the first place!

I have called in sick exactly 1 time over my 15 year career. I got hit with the flu Easter Sunday ~2007... I was at my sister's house and it hit suddenly like a ton of bricks. Called my boss immediately that afternoon and told her there wasn't a snowball's chance I'd be in on Monday. Wound up missing Tuesday as well. Since then, I have left early sick a few times, but that was the only time I didn't at least make an effort to go work. We don't have sick days, just PTO, but why waste PTO days to lay on the couch and do nothing?

(05-18-2017 11:22 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Well of course I wouldn't apply to a company that has such a foolish policy, in the first place!

You would never know that policy until after you were hired unless you inquired about it. The moment you inquire is the moment you activate the filter.

Glassdoor, talk to people who work there, etc.

Nothing close to the impossible that you're implying.

(05-18-2017 12:24 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Glassdoor, talk to people who work there, etc.

Nothing close to the impossible that you're implying.

The people posting on glassdoor are people who didnt trigger the filter.

(05-18-2017 01:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The people posting on glassdoor are people who didnt trigger the filter.

And hence they're aware of what your PTO/sick leave policy is, and can share with the world, so we can see how competitive you compensate your employees relative to your competitors.

And if you really want to get stuffy about it, then we can always go this route: http://www.startribune.com/court-minneap...411253675/

Quote:Minneapolis can move forward with plans to require companies to provide paid sick leave to employees, Hennepin County Judge Mel Dickstein ruled Thursday.

(05-18-2017 01:16 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  And if you really want to get stuffy about it, then we can always go this route: http://www.startribune.com/court-minneap...411253675/

Quote:Minneapolis can move forward with plans to require companies to provide paid sick leave to employees, Hennepin County Judge Mel Dickstein ruled Thursday.

We provide paid sick leave. We just do it fairly.

Also, watch the companies start leaving MN even faster now.

(05-18-2017 09:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 01:29 PM)banker Wrote:  Correct answer - I don't take sick days unless an ambulance has to take me to a hospital and they won't let me out, so I wouldn't know.

(05-17-2017 06:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The answer is...i have no idea, i cant remember it ever being something ive had to consider personally.

* unless you are applying to for an HR job.

Ah ... OK, I see the silly game now.

Can't say I've ever been asked such a silly question during an interview, but then again I've only worked for legitimate businesses.


But thank you for the lesson. You never know who is going to interview you. I suppose if I encounter a question of that nature in the future, I'll answer something like "I'll review whatever policy you have in place, and if I have a concern with it I can discuss with HR."

Spoken like a true government bureaucrat/employee. Are you a teacher perhaps? Maybe an Asst principal somewhere?

(05-18-2017 01:18 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  We provide paid sick leave.

Not according to the city of Mpls. Your definition doesn't meet the city's definition, which is the normal, accepted definition.

(05-18-2017 01:18 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  watch the companies start leaving MN even faster now.

It's just for companies based in the city. You obviously didn't click the link, because it explains that the law can't even compel companies that aren't based on the city, but that have offices in the city, to follow the requirement.