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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
(05-17-2017 11:43 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 11:36 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  more lunacy. seriously... it's almost amusing if it weren't so serious. The lunacy of the left trying to call someone else a lunatic.


This isn't 'resistance' people... it's childish temper tantrums.

Tell that to the POTUS who fires the FBI director because he wouldn't go easy on Flynn.

Oh I've said a million times that trump is a childish, arrogant jerk....

But he's also the President.

Put on your big 'person' pants and deal with it.

I still fail to see how lowering ones-self to the least common denominator (which is essentially what you're claiming the left is doing) is in anyone's best interests.
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
(05-17-2017 10:34 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  The 25th Amendment is not designed to remove a sitting President for being unpopular, or making decisions that are counter to the other political party. It's designed (and TBH, has the only change of succeeding) for a President who is incapacitate by health issues, or I guess has literally disappeared.

Interesting premise, but wishful thinking

Its Plan T in the progressive and establishment shill tantrum program. The media will be talking silliness about this in the next two weeks while they work together to figure out what Plan U is when this one fizzles out, too.
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
http://thefederalist.com/2017/05/17/medi...mp-office/

Using the 25th is a dangerous fantasy by the elites.
05-17-2017 07:42 PM
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
(05-17-2017 11:43 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 11:36 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  more lunacy. seriously... it's almost amusing if it weren't so serious. The lunacy of the left trying to call someone else a lunatic.


This isn't 'resistance' people... it's childish temper tantrums.

Tell that to the POTUS who fires the FBI director because he wouldn't go easy on Flynn.

Now, this is crazy. I actually think Mach, Fit, and Bison should take their advice and see a psychiatrist. They're loony.
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
(05-17-2017 01:42 PM)JTiger Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 11:02 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 10:51 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Has Trump been professionally diagnosed with a debilitating mental health concern?

He certainly seems to be a candidate!

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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
No no. Let Trump stay.
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
It isn't interesting; it's absolutely ******* stupid.
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
(05-17-2017 10:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It isn't interesting; it's absolutely ******* stupid.

You're just saying that out of dismay, not truthfulness. 07-coffee3
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
(05-17-2017 08:01 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 01:42 PM)JTiger Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 11:02 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 10:51 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Has Trump been professionally diagnosed with a debilitating mental health concern?

He certainly seems to be a candidate!

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Playing a doctor in a school play does not make you qualified to diagnose.

....but, but, he stayed at a Holiday Inn!!!
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
(05-18-2017 09:51 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 10:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It isn't interesting; it's absolutely ******* stupid.

You're just saying that out of dismay, not truthfulness. 07-coffee3

No, he's right.

You actually have a better shot of catching him doing something shady than being able to prove he's not mentally competent to serve as president.

It's the kind of stuff fantasies are made of.......
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
(05-18-2017 10:16 AM)Crebman Wrote:  ....but, but, he stayed at a Holiday Inn!!!

That commercial was an advertisement for Holiday Inn Express, which is a separately branded chain.
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(05-18-2017 10:19 AM)Crebman Wrote:  You actually have a better shot of catching him doing something shady than being able to prove he's not mentally competent to serve as president.

Here's the thing though ... as a pure business man (not an intellectual), all he knows is risk.

This just ratchets up the risk index for him, a little bit higher. Thus continuing the ever-trudging march towards ... resignation!
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/a...as-crisis/

From a writer who is clearly not a Trump fan:


"...Thus is the Trump crisis now superimposed upon the much broader and deeper crisis of the elites, which spawned the Trump crisis in the first place. Yes, Trump is a disaster as president. He lacks nearly all the qualities and attributes a president should have, and three and a half more years of him raises the specter of more and more unnecessary tumult and deepening civic rancor. It could even prove to be untenable governmentally. But trying to get rid of him before his term expires, absent a clear constitutional justification and a clear assent from the collective electorate, will simply deepen the crisis, driving the wedge further into the raw American heartland and generating growing feelings that the American system has lost its legitimacy.

There is no way out for America at this point. Steady as she goes could prove highly problematic. A push to remove him could prove worse. Perhaps a solution will present itself. But, even if it does, it will rectify, with great societal disquiet and animosity, merely the Trump crisis. The crisis of the elites will continue, all the more intractable and ominous. "
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
Libertarian rakes the "impeachment" establishment over the coals as well:

http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/17/all-th...pure-trump

"Well this didn't take long, did it?
Donald Trump, the most-unlikely and least-liked president in the history of the United States, had barely celebrated his first 100 days when calls for his impeachment started flying faster than Anthony Weiner dick pics at a Girl Scout cookout. For the good of democracy, don't you see, the Republicans must not only be kicked to the curb in the 2018 midterms, but the president himself must be thrown into the street, just like he once tried to evict that old lady from her house in Atlantic City!
In the wake of the firing of FBI Director James Comey, whose recent testimony on Hillary Clinton's emails was so flawed and incompetent that his underlings immediately issued a clarification to the Senate Judiciary Committee, virtually every non-Republican #NeverTrumper (plus Sen. John McCain, who has some good reasons to hate Trump) has called for The Donald's head on a platter. And this was all before the tantalizing possibility of a "Comey memo" detailing various attempts by Trump to shut down an investigation of possible ties between former National Security Adviser Mike Flynn and Russian operatives.

But let's get real: At this point in the game, all the explainers about how impeachment works (the 1990s called, they want their sex scandals back!) and adapting the 25th Amendment's ability to remove the president from decision-making during colonoscopies to the current crisis are evidence-free exercises in ideological masturbation. If we are going to survive not just the Trump years but eventually get around to kick-starting the 21st century, we're going to have become smarter media consumers and demand more from both our politicians and the press. "The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo," explains the Paper of Record, "but one of Mr. Comey's associates read parts of it to a Times reporter." As Reason's Scott Shackford has noted, that's what Joe Biden would call a "big ******* deal" if it turns out to exist and to be accurate. It's also a pretty big if at this point.
But even before Comey's possible "paper trail" documenting President Trump's demands (which may or may not actually rise to the level of impeachable offense) came to light, his enemies were out in force. For god's sake, they wanted him impeached even before he was the Republican nominee...."
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
So the true problem is a cryptic and undefined "crisis of the elites" ...
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(05-18-2017 11:23 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  So the true problem is a cryptic and undefined "crisis of the elites" ...

Yes, ignoring the 70-80% while benefitting the 20-30%. And a lot of the elite had contempt for the 70-80%.
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RE: Using the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office ?
20%, 30%, 70%, 80% ..... of what ??
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