(05-17-2017 11:36 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  more lunacy. seriously... it's almost amusing if it weren't so serious. The lunacy of the left trying to call someone else a lunatic.


This isn't 'resistance' people... it's childish temper tantrums.

https://www.vox.com/2017/5/17/15653448/a...comey-memo

Quote:A Republican lawmaker has acknowledged the “i-word”: impeachment.

Republican Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan gave reporters an affirmative “yes” Wednesday, when asked if the allegations from former FBI Director James Comey’s memo indicating that Trump urged the FBI to drop the investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn would be grounds for impeachment.

And Paul Ryan says "we need the facts".

(05-17-2017 11:10 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:02 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:51 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Has Trump been professionally diagnosed with a debilitating mental health concern?

He certainly seems to be a candidate!

Are you a licensed mental health medical professional?

If not, how are you making a diagnosis that he has mental health isses and the the Vice President and the Cabinet should remove the President from office via the 25th Amendment?

(05-17-2017 11:19 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:10 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  how are you making a diagnosis that he has mental health issues

His behavior while in office.

(05-17-2017 11:10 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  the the Vice President and the Cabinet should remove the President from office via the 25th Amendment?

I think you understand that the author is proposing it merely as a less gory means to the same end that proving "high Crimes and Misdemeanors" would be.

If it works, it works.

(05-17-2017 10:51 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:42 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sure, it probably is wishful thinking.

But, mental health issues qualify as health issues. That can't be denied.

Has Trump been professionally diagnosed with a debilitating mental health concern?

Dementia:

Quote:Difficulty communicating. Dementia patients often have a difficult time completing sentences or finding the right words. Also, words can get mixed up or used incorrectly.
Increased memory issues. Forgetfulness will start to occur more and more often, along with problems remembering how to do daily activities like cooking, cleaning and dressing.
General confusion. Those with dementia begin getting confused about what time of day it is, or even what year they’re living in. They also have a hard time recognizing friends and family members or think they are someone else entirely. Dementia patients may also start losing or misplacing items, even accusing others of stealing their belongings.
Personality and emotional changes. Dementia will cause personality changes to individuals, and can affect their moods as well. Those with dementia are often fearful or depressed and experience severe mood swings.

Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

http://www.ascseniorcare.com/mental-illn...a-elderly/

He could also be be suffering from late stage bipolar or Late onset schizophrenia. In any of these cases? Would you want him in charge of the nuclear weapons?

(05-17-2017 11:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:51 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:42 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sure, it probably is wishful thinking.

But, mental health issues qualify as health issues. That can't be denied.

Has Trump been professionally diagnosed with a debilitating mental health concern?

Dementia:

Quote:Difficulty communicating. Dementia patients often have a difficult time completing sentences or finding the right words. Also, words can get mixed up or used incorrectly.
Increased memory issues. Forgetfulness will start to occur more and more often, along with problems remembering how to do daily activities like cooking, cleaning and dressing.
General confusion. Those with dementia begin getting confused about what time of day it is, or even what year they’re living in. They also have a hard time recognizing friends and family members or think they are someone else entirely. Dementia patients may also start losing or misplacing items, even accusing others of stealing their belongings.
Personality and emotional changes. Dementia will cause personality changes to individuals, and can affect their moods as well. Those with dementia are often fearful or depressed and experience severe mood swings.

Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

http://www.ascseniorcare.com/mental-illn...a-elderly/

He could also be be suffering from late stage bipolar or Late onset schizophrenia. In any of these cases? Would you want him in charge of the nuclear weapons?

Are you describing yourself here? You know, no matter how many fantasy scenario's you loons come up with none of them has gained an inch without any traction whatsoever. Ask yourself why that is, assuming you have the capacity for open minded critical thinking. If you're like the rest of the liberal loons here that would be a huge assumption and if the recent past is any indication then I already know it'll be false one.

(05-17-2017 11:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

Are you a licensed mental health practitioner? Are you medically trained to diagnose dementia, late stage bipolar, or late onset schizophrenia.

Please be crystal clear in your response, which can consist of either:

Yes, or

No

Because DavidSt isn't one, that proves the strategy is invalid?

(05-17-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Because DavidSt isn't one, that proves the strategy is invalid?

The strategy was invalid from the day it was editorialized.

If I'm not allowed to assume someone's gender by looking at them then you and David are not allowed to make uneducated, untrained, non-medically supported mental health diagnosis.

Well I never claimed to make any diagnosis.

I'm merely presenting a strategy that is valid, *if* it could be shown that Trump is mentally unhealthy.

(05-17-2017 11:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:51 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:42 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sure, it probably is wishful thinking.

But, mental health issues qualify as health issues. That can't be denied.

Has Trump been professionally diagnosed with a debilitating mental health concern?

Dementia:

Quote:Difficulty communicating. Dementia patients often have a difficult time completing sentences or finding the right words. Also, words can get mixed up or used incorrectly.
Increased memory issues. Forgetfulness will start to occur more and more often, along with problems remembering how to do daily activities like cooking, cleaning and dressing.
General confusion. Those with dementia begin getting confused about what time of day it is, or even what year they’re living in. They also have a hard time recognizing friends and family members or think they are someone else entirely. Dementia patients may also start losing or misplacing items, even accusing others of stealing their belongings.
Personality and emotional changes. Dementia will cause personality changes to individuals, and can affect their moods as well. Those with dementia are often fearful or depressed and experience severe mood swings.

Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

http://www.ascseniorcare.com/mental-illn...a-elderly/

He could also be be suffering from late stage bipolar or Late onset schizophrenia. In any of these cases? Would you want him in charge of the nuclear weapons?

(05-17-2017 12:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

Are you a licensed mental health practitioner? Are you medically trained to diagnose dementia, late stage bipolar, or late onset schizophrenia.

Please be crystal clear in your response, which can consist of either:

Yes, or

No

I used to work in a nursing home with elderly with these symptoms. It is not hard to figure out about these elderly people. There are many on both parties that are that age that are showing signs of these issues. Nancy Pelosi is one of them. Hillary does show signs of these symptoms as well. Especially with the lack of judgement on her server and her paranoid attacks on people who did not vote for her, and call it something else instead of the issue with her not connecting to the voters, and not because that she is a woman.

(05-17-2017 01:05 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 12:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

Are you a licensed mental health practitioner? Are you medically trained to diagnose dementia, late stage bipolar, or late onset schizophrenia.

Please be crystal clear in your response, which can consist of either:

Yes, or

No

I used to work in a nursing home with elderly with these symptoms. It is not hard to figure out about these elderly people. There are many on both parties that are that age that are showing signs of these issues. Nancy Pelosi is one of them. Hillary does show signs of these symptoms as well. Especially with the lack of judgement on her server and her paranoid attacks on people who did not vote for her, and call it something else instead of the issue with her not connecting to the voters, and not because that she is a woman.

While I appreciate your experience in a nursing home brings you closer to these mental health concerns than others here making the mental health claim, your answer to my question is:

No. You are not medically trained to diagnose mental health issues.

(05-17-2017 01:05 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 12:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

Are you a licensed mental health practitioner? Are you medically trained to diagnose dementia, late stage bipolar, or late onset schizophrenia.

Please be crystal clear in your response, which can consist of either:

Yes, or

No

I used to work in a nursing home with elderly with these symptoms. It is not hard to figure out about these elderly people. There are many on both parties that are that age that are showing signs of these issues. Nancy Pelosi is one of them. Hillary does show signs of these symptoms as well. Especially with the lack of judgement on her server and her paranoid attacks on people who did not vote for her, and call it something else instead of the issue with her not connecting to the voters, and not because that she is a woman.

Please read up on the Goldwater rule to see how, even if you were qualified to diagnose (and you arent) why as a professional you would never do that.

(05-17-2017 01:09 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 01:05 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 12:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

Are you a licensed mental health practitioner? Are you medically trained to diagnose dementia, late stage bipolar, or late onset schizophrenia.

Please be crystal clear in your response, which can consist of either:

Yes, or

No

I used to work in a nursing home with elderly with these symptoms. It is not hard to figure out about these elderly people. There are many on both parties that are that age that are showing signs of these issues. Nancy Pelosi is one of them. Hillary does show signs of these symptoms as well. Especially with the lack of judgement on her server and her paranoid attacks on people who did not vote for her, and call it something else instead of the issue with her not connecting to the voters, and not because that she is a woman.

While I appreciate your experience in a nursing home brings you closer to these mental health concerns than others here making the mental health claim, your answer to my question is:

No. You are not medically trained to diagnose mental health issues.

And even if you were, you would not be qualified because of your bias. None of that fits Trump. He's always acted this way.

(05-17-2017 11:02 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:51 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Has Trump been professionally diagnosed with a debilitating mental health concern?

He certainly seems to be a candidate!

Internet Doctor, MD

(05-17-2017 12:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Number 1 Trump shows signs of. His words and tweets in writings are often mixed up, or not complete sentences or run ons that are hard to understand what he is saying.
Number 2, he seems to forget what he have said in the past.
Number 3, he also seems to be confused at times, and attack others with accusations.
Number 4, his personality and emotional changes also appear. He is calm as a cucumber, and the next, he Tweets up a storm attacking people.

Are you a licensed mental health practitioner? Are you medically trained to diagnose dementia, late stage bipolar, or late onset schizophrenia.

Please be crystal clear in your response, which can consist of either:

Yes, or

No

FWIW, The lovely and talented Mrs. Dunk is a licensed mental health professional. We have had conversations about some of these shenanigans by the POTUS- tweets, Billy Bush comments, that kind of thing. Her arm chair diagnosis?

Narcissistic personality issues/disorder. Nothing incapacitating, just pretty high opinion of himself.

Interestingly the same exact thing as zerO.

(05-17-2017 12:52 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Well I never claimed to make any diagnosis.

I'm merely presenting a strategy that is valid, *if* it could be shown that Trump is mentally unhealthy.

So you and the fellow nutjobs at the local birdcage liner, no doubt the same people that were screaming fascism and COUP when the POTUS exercised his lawful prerogative to relieve Mr. Comey of his duties, are now advocating for a real coup to overturn the results of a lawful US election.

Good plan.

Like the last eight years didn't get us close enough to banana republic type stuff, lets go FULL Venezuela and just be done with it.

(05-17-2017 02:09 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  FWIW, The lovely and talented Mrs. Dunk is a licensed mental health professional. We have had conversations about some of these shenanigans by the POTUS- tweets, Billy Bush comments, that kind of thing. Her arm chair diagnosis?

Narcissistic personality issues/disorder. Nothing incapacitating, just pretty high opinion of himself.

I mean, would someone even contemplate running for President without that?

(05-17-2017 02:28 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 02:09 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  FWIW, The lovely and talented Mrs. Dunk is a licensed mental health professional. We have had conversations about some of these shenanigans by the POTUS- tweets, Billy Bush comments, that kind of thing. Her arm chair diagnosis?

Narcissistic personality issues/disorder. Nothing incapacitating, just pretty high opinion of himself.

I mean, would someone even contemplate running for President without that?

Yup. My response as well. Just said, Well, of course!

I thought that establishment Republicans liked Pence more than Trump.