(05-08-2017 01:13 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 01:06 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 10:11 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  From the article - discussing CUSA's TV partners: "I’m hearing Sinclair wants out, which puts the whole ASN/Stadium thing in doubt, and beIN Sports wants out."

Ouch. Probably doesn't help our cause too much either.

I'm not a TV expert, but... aren't Sinclair/ASN/beIN all pretty new and desperate for content?

If they're not interested in CUSA, who the hell would be?

And yet many sportswriters (and some fans) want us to merge with that cluster....

I don't see any reason to expect our tv negotiations to go any better.

(05-08-2017 09:38 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 01:13 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 01:06 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 10:11 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  From the article - discussing CUSA's TV partners: "I’m hearing Sinclair wants out, which puts the whole ASN/Stadium thing in doubt, and beIN Sports wants out."

Ouch. Probably doesn't help our cause too much either.

I'm not a TV expert, but... aren't Sinclair/ASN/beIN all pretty new and desperate for content?

If they're not interested in CUSA, who the hell would be?

And yet many sportswriters (and some fans) want us to merge with that cluster....

I don't see any reason to expect our tv negotiations to go any better.

Sadly, that is my fear, too.

(05-08-2017 12:52 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I'd kinda like the idea of going after USM & Marshall.

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You know I like having the newer schools we have now because they are glad to be here and want the conf. to get better. Can you imagine Marshall or USM here. The schools I am not sure about but the fans would be so hard to get along with because they think they so much better than us. I disagree...I like our group much better than any of that bunch. I hope they continue to shun us while we pass them by in every way. They are struggling not because of the conference but because of who they are. If it's a disease you stay away from it. Don't let it them infect our group.

(05-08-2017 10:27 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 09:38 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 01:13 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 01:06 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 10:11 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  From the article - discussing CUSA's TV partners: "I’m hearing Sinclair wants out, which puts the whole ASN/Stadium thing in doubt, and beIN Sports wants out."

Ouch. Probably doesn't help our cause too much either.

I'm not a TV expert, but... aren't Sinclair/ASN/beIN all pretty new and desperate for content?

If they're not interested in CUSA, who the hell would be?

And yet many sportswriters (and some fans) want us to merge with that cluster....

I don't see any reason to expect our tv negotiations to go any better.

Sadly, that is my fear, too.

You can count on it. The dye has been cast as far as future G5 conference TV deals are concerned. CUSA is simply the first of the G5 conferences to get a taste of what TV money is going to be like from now on for those of us not in P5 conferences.

The Sun Belt has no where to go but up when it comes to TV deals, so when everyone else takes a haircut, it'll level the playing field for you guys. I suppose that can be looked upon as a positive thing. At least we'll all be suffering the same fate.

(05-09-2017 05:17 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 10:27 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 09:38 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 01:13 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 01:06 PM)Klak Wrote:  I'm not a TV expert, but... aren't Sinclair/ASN/beIN all pretty new and desperate for content?

If they're not interested in CUSA, who the hell would be?

And yet many sportswriters (and some fans) want us to merge with that cluster....

I don't see any reason to expect our tv negotiations to go any better.

Sadly, that is my fear, too.

You can count on it. The dye has been cast as far as future G5 conference TV deals are concerned. CUSA is simply the first of the G5 conferences to get a taste of what TV money is going to be like from now on for those of us not in P5 conferences.

The Sun Belt has no where to go but up when it comes to TV deals, so when everyone else takes a haircut, it'll level the playing field for you guys. I suppose that can be looked upon as a positive thing. At least we'll all be suffering the same fate.

Actually you guys are suffering it's business as usual for us.

(05-08-2017 09:16 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Rivalries are the key. Rabid crazed fans make good tv. The SB has a new hungry fan base and the conference title is much more a crap shoot with all the new solid programs. Early hate relationships are blooming like flowers in the spring time meadow around here. No longer can you be distracted by what's in front of you when what's on the schedule will likely be a slobber knocker. To the Fun Belt.

This this is the most overlooked aspect of all these conference tv contract payout conversations. How good are a conferences rivalries? how many rivalries do the conference have? are they entertaining enough to get the average sports fan to sit a watch for a little while? t.v just like sports is still about providing entertainment. outside of the 5-10k ride or die fans each school has, the million dollar question (pun intended) is can to network provider sale a conference rivalries to the general public as entertaining?

when cusa added its 8-9 new teams I think they only got 1 foundational rivalry out the group with MT and WKU ( I guess FAU/FIU could be said but we know there story already). cusa is having to rework their tv deals without any rivalries to sell to the general public as entertainment. USM/Latech is growing, but its not enough. and they are seeing the results of the network providers not being able to sale cusa to the general public as good entertainment value. on the other hand the Sun Belt has LA/ASU , Troy/USA, LA/USA , added GS/GSU , GS,APP St , which is allowing new cross rivalries to be formed, like ASU/APP , LA/GS ,If Troy and APP st, keep winning the way they are, that could become a heated rivalry. CCU should get in on the rivalry with GS/and APP St. soon. the new championship game can have the ability to add to this as well. let me say the Sun belt is not there yet, but entertainment demand is increasing in this conference. weekday games really hurt, I would hope we get away from those asap.

Maybe one day TXST can be rivals with ULL....

(05-09-2017 07:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Maybe one day TXST can be rivals with ULL....

keep saying ULL, that always works. In all seriousness, I wanted to include you. it just has clicked yet, but has great potential to be.

(05-09-2017 07:27 AM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 07:22 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Maybe one day TXST can be rivals with ULL....

keep saying ULL, that always works. In all seriousness, I wanted to include you. it just has clicked yet, but has great potential to be.

Texas state fans may not be aware of it but GS fans hate Texas state! The semi final beat down lingers like nuclear waste in the Boro. Changed our programs trajectory for years. CrAppy was quite the benefactor. Troy and GS have good potential. Honestly the beauty of the situation is so many are used to winning with little resistance throughout the schedule. There are "no" limp wrist in this conference from a competitive standpoint. Texas state's in a slump and my how GS fans relish the opportunity. Quite therapeutic. We just can't seem to givem the thump they gave us and it's a little frustrating.

I've said all along that no matter what I want our conference locking in on streaming media. Higher end feeds like you see on ESPN3. Our schools should all invest in the infrastructure to make quality broadcast feeds available. As the big networks concentrate on P5 schools I see an opportunity for explosive growth in the streaming market for G5 schools.

(05-09-2017 08:27 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I've said all along that no matter what I want our conference locking in on streaming media. Higher end feeds like you see on ESPN3. Our schools should all invest in the infrastructure to make quality broadcast feeds available. As the big networks concentrate on P5 schools I see an opportunity for explosive growth in the streaming market for G5 schools.

You all do realize the WGN cable network is part of the package with with the Tribune buy? In addition, Sinclair is getting Tribune major TV markets that they were not in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as...ne_Company

I think this could be a great opportunity for a G5 conference if they take advantage but I will agree higher risk with the higher reward. If you could get a MAC type deal with them, I would say jump all over it. Hell, even if you only got 500-600k per team doesn't that double your payout from ESPN and provide greater exposure? SBC has a good product but no one knows about it the way ESPN covers you all.

This is an interesting read.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017...acebook_si

(05-09-2017 05:59 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  This is an interesting read.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017...acebook_si

Thanks.

(05-09-2017 07:24 PM)sparty54 Wrote:  I really hope sunbelt can get cbssport network tv coming soon!

(05-09-2017 05:59 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  This is an interesting read.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017...acebook_si

Good read. Thanks.

(05-09-2017 05:59 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  This is an interesting read.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017...acebook_si

I think the idea that the bubble will burst is based on a HUGE assumption. That there is a bubble to burst.

B1G got a fat raise after CUSA took a haircut.

You currently pay about $96 a year for ESPN. That puts them in around 90 million homes.

Europe's version of an ESPN package (with less year-round programming because they have fewer high interest sports and fewer total live games) will cost you $45 US (since the pound is weaker now) per month as a standalone subscription online.

At that price ESPN would need only 16 million subscribers to make what they were already pulling in under the carriage fee.

As a standalone subscription $17 a month for SEC Network with 5 million subscribers vs the 75 million today produces more revenue in fees than the current SEC Network.

ESPN is going to monetize what they own without a lot of hassle.

The problem ESPN has TODAY is that their current agreements with cable and satellite provide that if ESPN offers a standalone subscription that the cable and satellite providers can pull ESPN off the basic tier and offer it on higher packages instead. As those packages expire they will have greater freedom.

What will likely happen is ESPN will offer a bunch of different packages at a variety of price points. Potentially ESPN may end up making even more money but it will all go to the "must watch" content like regular season NFL, post-season in NFL, NBA, MLB, the biggest college draws and post-season.

Well, for as much as ESPN appears to be profiting, it's costs are hurting it's parent company. This, in turn, will continue to hurt the parent company's stock. Moreover, soon ESPN's profitability will become affected. So, yeah a bubble is looming over the heads of college and pro sports. Once it bursts, it will not be pretty. See the article below:


http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/w...fca5e.html

(05-10-2017 10:36 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  Well, for as much as ESPN appears to be profiting, it's costs are hurting it's parent company. This, in turn, will continue to hurt the parent company's stock. Moreover, soon ESPN's profitability will become affected. So, yeah a bubble is looming over the heads of college and pro sports. Once it bursts, it will not be pretty. See the article below:


http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/w...fca5e.html

All assumptions based on ESPN not taking its service direct to consumers. You can't value what ESPN will be like in 5-10 years until that component is involved.

(05-08-2017 10:20 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Actually, I think you all have a better product. I think Sun Belt is capable of being on par with AAC and MWC. I believe up and down you are as good as the MAC despite having a terrible TV contract. If it was equal, I could see you all surpass the MAC. Become the SEC of the G5.

(05-11-2017 07:14 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 10:20 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Actually, I think you all have a better product. I think Sun Belt is capable of being on par with AAC and MWC. I believe up and down you are as good as the MAC despite having a terrible TV contract. If it was equal, I could see you all surpass the MAC. Become the SEC of the G5.

Ok, I know it sounds crazy but lets look at the schools and when they became FBS and their successful transions. These programs have history compared to many other G5.

Ga Southern
FBS Transition 2014
SBC Champs 2014
Go Daddy Bowl 2015

App State
2014 Transistion
2015 & 2016 Camilla Bowl Champs

South Ala
Progam created 2009
FCS Transtion 2012
2014 Camilla bowl
2016 AZ Bowl

Ark State
Bowls Streak 2011-Present
SBC Champs 5 of the past Six Years

ULL
Since 2000 only missed bowl appearance 2015

Tx St, Coastal, Ga St appearing willing to invest and get their programs to the above level.

ULM appears to be the program in question on abilty to drive toward the rest.

Finally, I think the SBC should go to 12 and go after ODU and So Miss, I do think they could help raise their TV contract to get closer to MAC level. CUSA is sinking ship and grab the two best to help with the regional split.