(05-04-2017 08:30 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 08:20 AM)goofus Wrote:  The main thing that jumps out to me is that the SEC only plays 8 conference gsmes and has 4 OOC games. So to make this an apples to apples comparison, you need to throw out the SEC's 1 game against a P5 and rank the SEC based on the 3 remaining OOC games.

of course Big Ten Fanboy would say that. Also, quite comical that you would mention the SEC and not the ACC, who also plays 8 conference games.

I agree w/ him. But to your point, you have to do the same thing w/ the ACC.

(05-04-2017 01:09 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Know one needs to make excuses for uw's schedule, it's terrible in terms of the strength of their competition. It gets better in 2018 when they open up against Auburn. As for this year, win them all convincingly and pray that we face an undefeated USC in the PAC 12 title game, pretty much are only chance to get back to the playoffs

UW's conference schedule might be a bit tougher than last season because they don't play Arizona, who will likely be the worst team in the south division.

Even so, if they're 12-1 and the other 4 P5 champs have no losses or one, they'll have to sweat out the committee selection.

(05-04-2017 04:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 01:09 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Know one needs to make excuses for uw's schedule, it's terrible in terms of the strength of their competition. It gets better in 2018 when they open up against Auburn. As for this year, win them all convincingly and pray that we face an undefeated USC in the PAC 12 title game, pretty much are only chance to get back to the playoffs

UW's conference schedule might be a bit tougher than last season because they don't play Arizona, who will likely be the worst team in the south division.

Even so, if they're 12-1 and the other 4 P5 champs have no losses or one, they'll have to sweat out the committee selection.

Not if somebody besides Oklahoma or Texas wins the Big 12. Fair or not they suffer a bias.

doesn't have to just be 4 p5 champions. see Ohio St last year. Washington literally would need 3 or fewer other p5 teams with 0-1 losses.

(05-04-2017 07:18 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...101178712/

1) Washington (@Rutgers, vs. Montana, vs. Fresno State)
2) Colorado (vs. Colorado State, vs. Texas State, vs. Northern Colorado
3) Kansas (vs. Southeast Missouri State, vs. Central Michigan, @Ohio
4) Arizona (vs. Northern Arizona, vs. Houston, @UTEP
5) Baylor (vs. Liberty, vs. UTSA, @Duke)
6) Missouri (vs. Missouri St, vs. Purdue, vs. Idaho, @UConn)
7) Ole Miss ((vs. South Alabama, vs. Tennessee-Martin, @Cal, vs. ULL)
8) Arkansas (vs. FAMU, vs. TCU, vs. New Mexico State, vs. Coastal Carolina)
9) Oregon State (@Colorado State, vs. Portland State, vs. Minnesota)
10) Mississippi State (vs. Charleston Southern, @La Tech, vs. BYU, vs. UMass)

That's being waaay too tough on Oregon State & Mississippi State IMO, but I do agree with everything else.

(05-04-2017 10:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  doesn't have to just be 4 p5 champions. see Ohio St last year. Washington literally would need 3 or fewer other p5 teams with 0-1 losses.

Doesn't absolutely *have* to be champs, but (1) In a P5 conference, now that they all have CCGs, only the champ can possibly finish with no losses; and (2) A one-loss team that doesn't win its division, like Ohio State last year, isn't going to happen often, and even if it does, that team is only going to get consideration if its resume is clearly better than that of a conference champ, who will always have the resume boost of winning a 13th game vs. a very good opponent.

And there are other potential contenders with suspect schedules. Just to name one, Wisconsin has an easy-peasy non-conference schedule, and on top of that the Badgers also have a not-so-difficult conference schedule (they're in the mild west division, and their only decent east opponent is Michigan, who has to travel to Madison).

Kansas State's isn't particularly challenging: Central Arkansas, Charlotte, @Vanderbilt


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Looks like the rag has a bone to pick with Washington. Not saying Rutgers is better than credited, but it's the season opener. And the Huskies are on the road for it.

Meanwhile, in Boulder... someone never leaves home and fails to bag a major.

How are the Huskies topping the list?

And KU could still lose 2 of the 3 at the hands of the MAC.

(05-04-2017 07:18 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...101178712/

1) Washington (@Rutgers, vs. Montana, vs. Fresno State)
2) Colorado (vs. Colorado State, vs. Texas State, vs. Northern Colorado
3) Kansas (vs. Southeast Missouri State, vs. Central Michigan, @Ohio
4) Arizona (vs. Northern Arizona, vs. Houston, @UTEP
5) Baylor (vs. Liberty, vs. UTSA, @Duke)
6) Missouri (vs. Missouri St, vs. Purdue, vs. Idaho, @UConn)
7) Ole Miss ((vs. South Alabama, vs. Tennessee-Martin, @Cal, vs. ULL)
8) Arkansas (vs. FAMU, vs. TCU, vs. New Mexico State, vs. Coastal Carolina)
9) Oregon State (@Colorado State, vs. Portland State, vs. Minnesota)
10) Mississippi State (vs. Charleston Southern, @La Tech, vs. BYU, vs. UMass)

SEC-4
PAC-4
Big 12-2

none in the ACC or the B1G

(05-05-2017 07:45 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  And KU could still lose 2 of the 3 at the hands of the MAC.

there is a solid chance Kansas goes 0-3 in ooc play lol

They way to know your at the right place when if your going to watch Miss State and byu, Half the parking lot is full of tractors, the other half is full of bicycles

PAC schools play nine conf games, so no surprise that some take it easy in the non-conf.

SEC schools notorious for scheduling patsies in non-conf, because their conf schedule is so brutal.

That leaves Kansas, which is horrible and trying to build up wins, and Baylor, which has been notorious for an abysmal non-conf schedule (also plays nine conf games).

(05-05-2017 12:48 AM)Wedge Wrote:  A one-loss team that doesn't win its division, like Ohio State last year, isn't going to happen often, and even if it does, that team is only going to get consideration if its resume is clearly better than that of a conference champ, who will always have the resume boost of winning a 13th game vs. a very good opponent.

Even though it's technically "not allowed", the CFP committee absolutely will take into account a factor like "strength of program" in that scenario.

That means you basically have these teams that could pull off what Ohio St did last year:
Ohio St
Michigan
Penn St
Clemson
FL St
Alabama
Florida
(probably a couple other SEC)
Texas
Oklahoma
USC
Oregon

(05-05-2017 08:48 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 07:45 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  And KU could still lose 2 of the 3 at the hands of the MAC.

there is a solid chance Kansas goes 0-3 in ooc play lol

Which is why this list is unfair for Kansas and the site in question is false news. Any game is going to be difficult for them until further notice.

(05-06-2017 10:08 PM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 08:48 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 07:45 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  And KU could still lose 2 of the 3 at the hands of the MAC.

there is a solid chance Kansas goes 0-3 in ooc play lol

Which is why this list is unfair for Kansas and the site in question is false news. Any game is going to be difficult for them until further notice.

IIRC they've actually had some decent recruiting classes the last year or so given where they are in the college football world. The problem is that last year was their 'growing pains' season where they started the most freshman in FBS or something like that, so they probably won't get out of the basement until 2018 at the earliest.