(04-13-2017 09:10 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:07 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:00 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 08:49 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 08:43 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  I think the ACC would probably grab Cincy as Well

I don't think so; they are not the same caliber of an institution (neither were Miami and Louisville, but they were allowed in because of their multiple championships in football and bball). Unfortunately, Cincy doesn't have the recent championships to do the same.

I think its still a solid choice. But if they don't pick Cincy, I do think that i do think the ACC will make a push to convince Kansas to leave the big 12 and join the ACC with UConn. UConn in ACC, ah what a pleasant thought

That is feasible and totally sounds like something the ACC and ESPN would conspire to do (as they have in the past).

What would happen to the American if Cincy and UConn left? that move would really hurt the AAC. There is really no big basketball names left in Conference. WSU is really good right now but They dont have the big names that UConn and Cincy do.

Sorry, but UCONN is on a higher level than Cincy, because or their 4 recent championships. Cincy has always been consistent, but so has WSU and they have gone further than Cincy in the tourney in recent years. I rate WSU above Cincy, with SMU (still new to the name recognition fame game) in 3rd.

(04-13-2017 09:24 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:10 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:07 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:00 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 08:49 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  I don't think so; they are not the same caliber of an institution (neither were Miami and Louisville, but they were allowed in because of their multiple championships in football and bball). Unfortunately, Cincy doesn't have the recent championships to do the same.

I think its still a solid choice. But if they don't pick Cincy, I do think that i do think the ACC will make a push to convince Kansas to leave the big 12 and join the ACC with UConn. UConn in ACC, ah what a pleasant thought

That is feasible and totally sounds like something the ACC and ESPN would conspire to do (as they have in the past).

What would happen to the American if Cincy and UConn left? that move would really hurt the AAC. There is really no big basketball names left in Conference. WSU is really good right now but They dont have the big names that UConn and Cincy do.

Sorry, but UCONN is on a higher level than Cincy, because or their 4 recent championships. Cincy has always been consistent, but so has WSU and they have gone further than Cincy in the tourney in recent years. I rate WSU above Cincy, with SMU (still new to the name recognition fame game) in 3rd.

IK we are lol. What would the AAC do to replace UConn?

(04-13-2017 08:42 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 08:08 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  if it does pass...I wouldn't be suprised lol. I do feel like another conference shake up would be in making if the ACC does boycott NC again.

There is absolutely ZERO chance this passes. It would be vetoed as soon as the paper hit the current Gov's desk.

You are right. This is a non story because it'll never make it out of committee. The Tar Hole mafia in the legislature will never allow this to pass.

(04-13-2017 09:26 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:24 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:10 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:07 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:00 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  I think its still a solid choice. But if they don't pick Cincy, I do think that i do think the ACC will make a push to convince Kansas to leave the big 12 and join the ACC with UConn. UConn in ACC, ah what a pleasant thought

That is feasible and totally sounds like something the ACC and ESPN would conspire to do (as they have in the past).

What would happen to the American if Cincy and UConn left? that move would really hurt the AAC. There is really no big basketball names left in Conference. WSU is really good right now but They dont have the big names that UConn and Cincy do.

Sorry, but UCONN is on a higher level than Cincy, because or their 4 recent championships. Cincy has always been consistent, but so has WSU and they have gone further than Cincy in the tourney in recent years. I rate WSU above Cincy, with SMU (still new to the name recognition fame game) in 3rd.

IK we are lol. What would the AAC do to replace UConn?

UMASS??? lol/jk Army/Gonzaga invite? Who knows...

(04-13-2017 09:58 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:26 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:24 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:10 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:07 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  That is feasible and totally sounds like something the ACC and ESPN would conspire to do (as they have in the past).

What would happen to the American if Cincy and UConn left? that move would really hurt the AAC. There is really no big basketball names left in Conference. WSU is really good right now but They dont have the big names that UConn and Cincy do.

Sorry, but UCONN is on a higher level than Cincy, because or their 4 recent championships. Cincy has always been consistent, but so has WSU and they have gone further than Cincy in the tourney in recent years. I rate WSU above Cincy, with SMU (still new to the name recognition fame game) in 3rd.

IK we are lol. What would the AAC do to replace UConn?

UMASS??? lol/jk Army/Gonzaga invite? Who knows...

Gonzaga doesn't really need to leave there conference, they have a guaranteed bid to the NCAA tournet. UMass!!! our rivals (lol). That made me laugh. They wouldn't be able to compete in this league lol. Army.....nah.

(04-13-2017 10:02 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:58 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:26 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:24 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:10 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  What would happen to the American if Cincy and UConn left? that move would really hurt the AAC. There is really no big basketball names left in Conference. WSU is really good right now but They dont have the big names that UConn and Cincy do.

Sorry, but UCONN is on a higher level than Cincy, because or their 4 recent championships. Cincy has always been consistent, but so has WSU and they have gone further than Cincy in the tourney in recent years. I rate WSU above Cincy, with SMU (still new to the name recognition fame game) in 3rd.

IK we are lol. What would the AAC do to replace UConn?

UMASS??? lol/jk Army/Gonzaga invite? Who knows...

Gonzaga doesn't really need to leave there conference, they have a guaranteed bid to the NCAA tournet.

So did WSU and Butler, but they decided to move on to better competition in order stay competitive and relevant; eventually, Butler will not be as good as they are right now and they will need a more competitive conference to keep them from falling off the precipice of relevancy.

(04-13-2017 10:11 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 10:02 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:58 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:26 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:24 AM)TheShocker Wrote:  Sorry, but UCONN is on a higher level than Cincy, because or their 4 recent championships. Cincy has always been consistent, but so has WSU and they have gone further than Cincy in the tourney in recent years. I rate WSU above Cincy, with SMU (still new to the name recognition fame game) in 3rd.

IK we are lol. What would the AAC do to replace UConn?

UMASS??? lol/jk Army/Gonzaga invite? Who knows...

Gonzaga doesn't really need to leave there conference, they have a guaranteed bid to the NCAA tournet.

So did WSU and Butler, but they decided to move on to better competition in order stay competitive and relevant; eventually, Butler will not be as good as they are right now and they will need a more competitive conference to keep them from falling off the precipice of relevancy.

True, people wont respect them until they move to a better conference. I just don't think the AAC is where they would want to go. They are on the other side of the country. Traveling would be annoying for them.

(04-12-2017 07:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

New bill filed could put school’s membership in ACC, American, at risk

By Josh Birch
Published: April 12, 2017, 5:42 pm | Updated: April 12, 2017, 6:20 pm



GREENVILLE, N.C. (WNCT) – A new bill filed by four Republicans in the North Carolina House could put membership in certain athletic conferences at risk.

House Bill 728 would penalize athletic conferences who boycotted North Carolina. It’s largely in response to the NCAA and ACC pulling events from the state following the passage of House Bill 2.

As proposed, the bill would require any UNC School System institution to ban media rights to the athletic conference that was boycotting the state. It also would require that school to inform the conference immediately their intentions to leave if the boycott isn’t lifted immediately.

This could impact NC State and UNC’s membership in the ACC, and ECU’s membership in the American Athletic Conference.

ECU students were hesitant about the bill, saying it would hurt the economy and the school’s competition with other AAC schools.

In a statement, ECU Athletics said they felt it was too early to offer a comment and take a position on the issue. They said they wanted more time to collect facts and discuss the situation with the American Athletic Conference.

Read the entire article here: http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

Hey, NC. What in the hell is wrong with you people?

So I heard in addition to this bill there were two other ones:
A ban on same sex marriage
An a removal of the ban for secession from the US

Those two are from the same three Republicans. Even Florida hasn't gone that crazy yet.

(04-13-2017 12:53 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 07:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

New bill filed could put school’s membership in ACC, American, at risk

By Josh Birch
Published: April 12, 2017, 5:42 pm | Updated: April 12, 2017, 6:20 pm



GREENVILLE, N.C. (WNCT) – A new bill filed by four Republicans in the North Carolina House could put membership in certain athletic conferences at risk.

House Bill 728 would penalize athletic conferences who boycotted North Carolina. It’s largely in response to the NCAA and ACC pulling events from the state following the passage of House Bill 2.

As proposed, the bill would require any UNC School System institution to ban media rights to the athletic conference that was boycotting the state. It also would require that school to inform the conference immediately their intentions to leave if the boycott isn’t lifted immediately.

This could impact NC State and UNC’s membership in the ACC, and ECU’s membership in the American Athletic Conference.

ECU students were hesitant about the bill, saying it would hurt the economy and the school’s competition with other AAC schools.

In a statement, ECU Athletics said they felt it was too early to offer a comment and take a position on the issue. They said they wanted more time to collect facts and discuss the situation with the American Athletic Conference.

Read the entire article here: http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

Hey, NC. What in the hell is wrong with you people?

Who or what is the American Athletic Association?

(04-14-2017 12:49 PM)BEAST Football Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:53 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 07:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

New bill filed could put school’s membership in ACC, American, at risk

By Josh Birch
Published: April 12, 2017, 5:42 pm | Updated: April 12, 2017, 6:20 pm



GREENVILLE, N.C. (WNCT) – A new bill filed by four Republicans in the North Carolina House could put membership in certain athletic conferences at risk.

House Bill 728 would penalize athletic conferences who boycotted North Carolina. It’s largely in response to the NCAA and ACC pulling events from the state following the passage of House Bill 2.

As proposed, the bill would require any UNC School System institution to ban media rights to the athletic conference that was boycotting the state. It also would require that school to inform the conference immediately their intentions to leave if the boycott isn’t lifted immediately.

This could impact NC State and UNC’s membership in the ACC, and ECU’s membership in the American Athletic Conference.

ECU students were hesitant about the bill, saying it would hurt the economy and the school’s competition with other AAC schools.

In a statement, ECU Athletics said they felt it was too early to offer a comment and take a position on the issue. They said they wanted more time to collect facts and discuss the situation with the American Athletic Conference.

Read the entire article here: http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

Hey, NC. What in the hell is wrong with you people?

Who or what is the American Athletic Association?

It's a new conference. The Triple A.

(04-12-2017 07:45 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  I voted for one of these guys. This is idiotic and I fired off an email giving them an earful.

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If it's anything like Burr and Tillis the response will be canned and say a lot to actually say nothing. I'm thinking the state will turn back blue at the state level within the next four years and that Burr and Tillis will both lose their next elections. NC residents are NOT happy regardless of their affiliation right now.


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(04-13-2017 12:53 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 07:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

New bill filed could put school’s membership in ACC, American, at risk

By Josh Birch
Published: April 12, 2017, 5:42 pm | Updated: April 12, 2017, 6:20 pm



GREENVILLE, N.C. (WNCT) – A new bill filed by four Republicans in the North Carolina House could put membership in certain athletic conferences at risk.

House Bill 728 would penalize athletic conferences who boycotted North Carolina. It’s largely in response to the NCAA and ACC pulling events from the state following the passage of House Bill 2.

As proposed, the bill would require any UNC School System institution to ban media rights to the athletic conference that was boycotting the state. It also would require that school to inform the conference immediately their intentions to leave if the boycott isn’t lifted immediately.

This could impact NC State and UNC’s membership in the ACC, and ECU’s membership in the American Athletic Conference.

ECU students were hesitant about the bill, saying it would hurt the economy and the school’s competition with other AAC schools.

In a statement, ECU Athletics said they felt it was too early to offer a comment and take a position on the issue. They said they wanted more time to collect facts and discuss the situation with the American Athletic Conference.

Read the entire article here: http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

Hey, NC. What in the hell is wrong with you people?

Republicans overreaching during their first significant time in charge in forever. We were able to kick the puppet out as governor but the rest will take some hard fights and hopefully dems will be in charge come 2020 so we can at least get some more level districts drawn up (or he'll have outside people draw up districts). This is the boiling point of the past 4 years being under complete republican rule. Not to mention end continues to get empty promises. Greenville should be at the level of Wilmington and Jacksonville and yet we're just now getting infrastructure to be even in the beginning phases of becoming that.


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(04-15-2017 07:29 PM)PurpleReigns Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:53 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 07:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

New bill filed could put school’s membership in ACC, American, at risk

By Josh Birch
Published: April 12, 2017, 5:42 pm | Updated: April 12, 2017, 6:20 pm



GREENVILLE, N.C. (WNCT) – A new bill filed by four Republicans in the North Carolina House could put membership in certain athletic conferences at risk.

House Bill 728 would penalize athletic conferences who boycotted North Carolina. It’s largely in response to the NCAA and ACC pulling events from the state following the passage of House Bill 2.

As proposed, the bill would require any UNC School System institution to ban media rights to the athletic conference that was boycotting the state. It also would require that school to inform the conference immediately their intentions to leave if the boycott isn’t lifted immediately.

This could impact NC State and UNC’s membership in the ACC, and ECU’s membership in the American Athletic Conference.

ECU students were hesitant about the bill, saying it would hurt the economy and the school’s competition with other AAC schools.

In a statement, ECU Athletics said they felt it was too early to offer a comment and take a position on the issue. They said they wanted more time to collect facts and discuss the situation with the American Athletic Conference.

Read the entire article here: http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

Hey, NC. What in the hell is wrong with you people?

Republicans overreaching during their first significant time in charge in forever. We were able to kick the puppet out as governor but the rest will take some hard fights and hopefully dems will be in charge come 2020 so we can at least get some more level districts drawn up (or he'll have outside people draw up districts). This is the boiling point of the past 4 years being under complete republican rule. Not to mention end continues to get empty promises. Greenville should be at the level of Wilmington and Jacksonville and yet we're just now getting infrastructure to be even in the beginning phases of becoming that.


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You are an optimist. I hope you are right.

(04-15-2017 09:32 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 07:29 PM)PurpleReigns Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:53 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 07:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

New bill filed could put school’s membership in ACC, American, at risk

By Josh Birch
Published: April 12, 2017, 5:42 pm | Updated: April 12, 2017, 6:20 pm



GREENVILLE, N.C. (WNCT) – A new bill filed by four Republicans in the North Carolina House could put membership in certain athletic conferences at risk.

House Bill 728 would penalize athletic conferences who boycotted North Carolina. It’s largely in response to the NCAA and ACC pulling events from the state following the passage of House Bill 2.

As proposed, the bill would require any UNC School System institution to ban media rights to the athletic conference that was boycotting the state. It also would require that school to inform the conference immediately their intentions to leave if the boycott isn’t lifted immediately.

This could impact NC State and UNC’s membership in the ACC, and ECU’s membership in the American Athletic Conference.

ECU students were hesitant about the bill, saying it would hurt the economy and the school’s competition with other AAC schools.

In a statement, ECU Athletics said they felt it was too early to offer a comment and take a position on the issue. They said they wanted more time to collect facts and discuss the situation with the American Athletic Conference.

Read the entire article here: http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

Hey, NC. What in the hell is wrong with you people?

Republicans overreaching during their first significant time in charge in forever. We were able to kick the puppet out as governor but the rest will take some hard fights and hopefully dems will be in charge come 2020 so we can at least get some more level districts drawn up (or he'll have outside people draw up districts). This is the boiling point of the past 4 years being under complete republican rule. Not to mention end continues to get empty promises. Greenville should be at the level of Wilmington and Jacksonville and yet we're just now getting infrastructure to be even in the beginning phases of becoming that.


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You are an optimist. I hope you are right.

They rode the Tea Party movement in 09/10 to control. Not only does history show us that the party without control of the White House does better in the midterm, but Trump and the entire Republican Party is even alienating their own base. There is resistance on both sides and the Dems only need a Net gain of 3 seats in the senate.


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(04-13-2017 09:38 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 08:42 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 08:08 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  if it does pass...I wouldn't be suprised lol. I do feel like another conference shake up would be in making if the ACC does boycott NC again.

There is absolutely ZERO chance this passes. It would be vetoed as soon as the paper hit the current Gov's desk.

You are right. This is a non story because it'll never make it out of committee. The Tar Hole mafia in the legislature will never allow this to pass.

The bill is dead, but FWIW, as it was worded, it wouldn't actually have forced any NC schools out of any conferences, so long as A) the school wanted to be in the conference, and B) the conference wanted the school to be in it. The end result of the bill is that the school(s) and the conference(s) involved would have to jump through some pretty easy hoops, and the schools involved could effectively keep the status quo of being in their conference(s), while the conference(s) boycotted away.

All the above said, I don't think that the ACC (or any other conference) should involve itself in the world of politics unless it absolutely has to.

DUMBEST.
BILL.
EVER.

Way to go North Carolina. Play chicken over a Civil Rights issue using college athletics of all things. *snort*

For the record, if UNC and NC State DID leave over this, even the backwards-azz SEC would have problems taking them - the schools become radioactive politically. I mean, despite UNC having a squeaky-clean image right now and all.

And I would have to imagine the media rights deal would hold, which means that, to the best of my knowledge (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) now that agreement was signed a year ago that means that those schools forfeit revenue for the next TWO DECADES. If the SEC did take them they would essentially be sending those schools' super-lucrative SEC checks straight to the ACC. What is SEC membership worth nowadays, $35,000,000/year or so? Now add the state of NC and Charlotte to the mix.

Hey ACC, how would you like to divide an additional, ohhhhhhhh, say $75,000,000 a year between your schools?

So the ACC could either stand pat at 12 schools or go after two more. Probably UConn and West Virginia, since the Big XII media rights deal only has about five years left on it's contract (somebody look it up and lemme know); all they have to do is wait out the remaining contract. I mean, I know the Mountaineers totally look forward to going to Ames and Lubbuck every year and all, but once they are done crying they will take consolation in the fact that they will rejoin Pitt, BC, Miami, Syracuse, Louisville and Va Tech to go along with schools like Clemson, Duke and FSU. How many seconds will it take for them to decide what to do? Three? Four?

So the ACC continues to hold the NC market - technically speaking - with Duke and Wake, adds the Connecticut and West Virginia markets, adds a better football team in West Virginia and the ONLY consistent money maker in women's basketball in UCONN, breaks up the NC political dynasty that has pissed everyone off for half a century, pads their wallets for twenty years, potentially sets up the SEC to be the bad guys on the national stage by DARING THEM to take the NC schools, and even possibly leads to the downfall of the Big XII by forcing that conference to AGAIN discuss having to find a new member (probably Houston, who will bring another mouth to feed but no new media markets).

Are you kidding me?

AREYOUFINGKIDDINGME?

DUMBEST.
BILL.
EVER.

(04-15-2017 09:58 PM)PurpleReigns Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 09:32 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 07:29 PM)PurpleReigns Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:53 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(04-12-2017 07:13 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

New bill filed could put school’s membership in ACC, American, at risk

By Josh Birch
Published: April 12, 2017, 5:42 pm | Updated: April 12, 2017, 6:20 pm



GREENVILLE, N.C. (WNCT) – A new bill filed by four Republicans in the North Carolina House could put membership in certain athletic conferences at risk.

House Bill 728 would penalize athletic conferences who boycotted North Carolina. It’s largely in response to the NCAA and ACC pulling events from the state following the passage of House Bill 2.

As proposed, the bill would require any UNC School System institution to ban media rights to the athletic conference that was boycotting the state. It also would require that school to inform the conference immediately their intentions to leave if the boycott isn’t lifted immediately.

This could impact NC State and UNC’s membership in the ACC, and ECU’s membership in the American Athletic Conference.

ECU students were hesitant about the bill, saying it would hurt the economy and the school’s competition with other AAC schools.

In a statement, ECU Athletics said they felt it was too early to offer a comment and take a position on the issue. They said they wanted more time to collect facts and discuss the situation with the American Athletic Conference.

Read the entire article here: http://wnct.com/2017/04/12/new-bill-file...n-at-risk/

Hey, NC. What in the hell is wrong with you people?

Republicans overreaching during their first significant time in charge in forever. We were able to kick the puppet out as governor but the rest will take some hard fights and hopefully dems will be in charge come 2020 so we can at least get some more level districts drawn up (or he'll have outside people draw up districts). This is the boiling point of the past 4 years being under complete republican rule. Not to mention end continues to get empty promises. Greenville should be at the level of Wilmington and Jacksonville and yet we're just now getting infrastructure to be even in the beginning phases of becoming that.


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You are an optimist. I hope you are right.

They rode the Tea Party movement in 09/10 to control. Not only does history show us that the party without control of the White House does better in the midterm, but Trump and the entire Republican Party is even alienating their own base. There is resistance on both sides and the Dems only need a Net gain of 3 seats in the senate.


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And by taking control just before the 2010 census they were able to execute the most strategically effective, extreme and overtly partisan redistricting jobs ever put in place. They made previous gerrymandering efforts in NC look bipartisan, which they weren't, but that is just how stacked they made the deck in 2010! The GOP legislature continues to consolidate their power, weakening local government, the executive and judicial branches etc. etc. The affect will be long lasting. It will take a couple of decades to turn the ship around. The 2020 census will come and go before there will be enough push back to shift the legislative balance. Hang on, cause this is going to be a bumpy ride.

So many laws in the last few years limiting the powers of cities. It's very frustrating to experience.

(04-16-2017 11:33 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  So many laws in the last few years limiting the powers of cities. It's very frustrating to experience.

Yup the exact opposite of the GOP platform.


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