olliebaba
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
You call it BS, I call it WINNING!
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appst89
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
(03-24-2017 01:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (03-24-2017 12:53 PM)appst89 Wrote: (03-24-2017 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: It was rather enjoyable actually having someone in charge who mostly knew what he was doing wasn't it!?!
Trump on the other hand...at this rate...may not last the rest of this year.
It is nice now to have someone who is doing what they said they would after the last eight years of complete and utter incompetence.
Trump will be there after the leftist loons have been carted off to the nervous hospital.
Funny...I thought Trump was going to be doing all this winning. All I see is failing.
Been pretty clear for a while that you couldn't see. Thanks for verifying.
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03-24-2017 01:03 PM |
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Redwingtom
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
(03-24-2017 01:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote: You call it BS, I call it WINNING!
And half of it are lies dude. Most all of this jobs nonsense was decided and/or announced before he even took office.
And that pipeline will create like less than 100 perm jobs IIRC.
Gorsuch ain't approved yet either.
Couple that with his failures on the Muslim Ban, ACA repeal, Under FBI investigation, Flynn firing, Manafort non-vetting, millions squandered on Florida trips, etc.
One failure after another.
Who knew being president could be this hard.
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03-24-2017 01:09 PM |
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solohawks
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
What a dumb move by the Dems. Gorsuch is going to be on there on way or the other. You really want to fillibuster this guy and waste that card now?? If you force nuclear option for Gorsuch, next Judge will only require 51 going into it. What kind of a judge do you think you will get then?
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03-24-2017 01:13 PM |
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rath v2.0
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
The 60 vote thing is just a procedural rule another congress enacted.
It was deemed in both parties' best interest until Senate Majority Leader Harry Ried (D) saw fit to remove it to be able to ram through all of Obama's nominees for lower federal courts.
Cry me a river.
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03-24-2017 01:22 PM |
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EigenEagle
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
Go Nukyalur!
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03-24-2017 01:37 PM |
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LeFlâneur
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
I am a conservative Republican and I want more than anything to see a 6-3 conservative majority on the SC for the next 30 years. Yes the nuclear option would likely provide that margin.
BUT
The nuclear option is NOT a given. You would need at least 50 Republican Senators to vote to change the filibuster (with Pence casting the tie breaker).
Guys, that is not a given.
I think there is a better than even chance that two or more Republican Senators would not vote in favor of the nuclear option.
Possible no votes: McConnell, McCain, Hatch, Grassley.
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03-24-2017 01:40 PM |
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solohawks
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
McConnell has already said Gorsuch will be confirmed one way or the other. If he is willling to go nuclear I dont think his Lt's will stop him
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03-24-2017 01:41 PM |
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rath v2.0
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
(03-24-2017 01:40 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: I am a conservative Republican and I want more than anything to see a 6-3 conservative majority on the SC for the next 30 years. Yes the nuclear option would likely provide that margin.
BUT
The nuclear option is NOT a given. You would need at least 50 Republican Senators to vote to change the filibuster (with Pence casting the tie breaker).
Guys, that is not a given.
I think there is a better than even chance that two or more Republican Senators would not vote in favor of the nuclear option.
Possible no votes: McConnell, McCain, Hatch, Grassley.
McConnel has already said he would do it...he would be the one to bring the rule change to a vote.
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03-24-2017 02:16 PM |
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DefCONNOne
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
(03-24-2017 11:52 AM)usmbacker Wrote: That idiot Schumer came out today and said he would filibuster Gorsuch. Then he had the gall to warn against the nuclear option. This after Harry Reid in 2013 set the precedent to fill the Circuit Courts with Obama nominees. How stupid is this guy?
A Supreme Court nominee has never been filibustered in the history of the country. So go ahead Schumer. Do the Republicans a favor. They will immediately put the nuclear option in place and Gorsuch is in as will be any further Trump nominees. I swear Schumer is doing Trump more good than I can believe. By buying into this complete opposition to Trump, he is just making the Republicans stronger. If he had come out and tried to work with the deal maker, Trump would have jumped all over it. Trump gave Schumer more money than any other politician. Now all Trump has to do is ignore him and work with the Republicans.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost...story.html
The only thing that I hate, if McConnell is forced to go nuclear, is that the Dems will control the Senate again. Guaranteed. This needs to be avoided at all costs.
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03-24-2017 04:36 PM |
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DefCONNOne
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
(03-24-2017 12:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Garland, Garland, Garland...
Who, Who, Who...
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03-24-2017 04:37 PM |
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LeFlâneur
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
(03-24-2017 02:16 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: (03-24-2017 01:40 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: I am a conservative Republican and I want more than anything to see a 6-3 conservative majority on the SC for the next 30 years. Yes the nuclear option would likely provide that margin.
BUT
The nuclear option is NOT a given. You would need at least 50 Republican Senators to vote to change the filibuster (with Pence casting the tie breaker).
Guys, that is not a given.
I think there is a better than even chance that two or more Republican Senators would not vote in favor of the nuclear option.
Possible no votes: McConnell, McCain, Hatch, Grassley.
McConnel has already said he would do it...he would be the one to bring the rule change to a vote.
Yes he could allow a vote and still vote no. Nonetheless, I think McCain and Hatch are the two most likely to vote no.
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03-24-2017 05:08 PM |
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solohawks
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
Lol I would love for Hatch to explain to the people of Utah why gorsuch is not on the supreme court
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2017 05:48 PM by solohawks.)
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03-24-2017 05:47 PM |
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rath v2.0
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
(03-24-2017 05:08 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: (03-24-2017 02:16 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: (03-24-2017 01:40 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: I am a conservative Republican and I want more than anything to see a 6-3 conservative majority on the SC for the next 30 years. Yes the nuclear option would likely provide that margin.
BUT
The nuclear option is NOT a given. You would need at least 50 Republican Senators to vote to change the filibuster (with Pence casting the tie breaker).
Guys, that is not a given.
I think there is a better than even chance that two or more Republican Senators would not vote in favor of the nuclear option.
Possible no votes: McConnell, McCain, Hatch, Grassley.
McConnel has already said he would do it...he would be the one to bring the rule change to a vote.
Yes he could allow a vote and still vote no. Nonetheless, I think McCain and Hatch are the two most likely to vote no.
McConnel is not going to vote no on that...McCain might because he is senile.
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03-24-2017 05:52 PM |
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swagsurfer11
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
The president is under federal investigation. Nomination is garbage.
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03-24-2017 06:04 PM |
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rath v2.0
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RE: Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear...
Too bad so sad. Get used to Gorsuch. He'll be living in DC for about 3 decades.
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03-24-2017 06:25 PM |
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