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Apparently reported in 2-3 places, that the AAC is considering adding Wichita State, Dayton and VCU in an effort to beef up its basketball strength. Conversations apparently tasking place "at the highest levels," whatever that might mean.

If that happens, what might we do, if anything? Would it be smart to go indy in football for the sake of better, less-travel-weary basketball? Lots of people on here better at this than me, so I'm interested in opinions.

Link:

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wic...63693.html

Why would Dayton and/or VCU go to a lesser basketball conference that focuses on football, would substantially increase travel, and allots less NCAA Tounament money to the schools that earned it? Zero chance. Big East would be a more credible rumor. Wichita State, maybe.

(03-03-2017 11:43 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Apparently reported in 2-3 places, that the AAC is considering adding Wichita State, Dayton and VCU in an effort to beef up its basketball strength. Conversations apparently tasking place "at the highest levels," whatever that might mean.

If that happens, what might we do, if anything? Would it be smart to go indy in football for the sake of better, less-travel-weary basketball? Lots of people on here better at this than me, so I'm interested in opinions.

FFS, the AAC taking bb only schools? I know Wichita St. is cinsidering addinf football, but I don't see VCU or Dayton doing so.

If this happens, I think we stay put anyway. The Indy route is a primrose path.

(03-03-2017 11:43 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Apparently reported in 2-3 places, that the AAC is considering adding Wichita State, Dayton and VCU in an effort to beef up its basketball strength. Conversations apparently tasking place "at the highest levels," whatever that might mean.

If that happens, what might we do, if anything? Would it be smart to go indy in football for the sake of better, less-travel-weary basketball? Lots of people on here better at this than me, so I'm interested in opinions.

It would take the dream of joining the AAC away until the Big12 eventually expands. Houston, Cincy, and Memphis remain the best candidates for that league.

It might be exactly the kick in the pants CUSA and Sun Belt schools need for a reasonable realignment based on geography.

(03-03-2017 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Why would Dayton and/or VCU go to a lesser basketball conference that focuses on football, would substantially increase travel, and allots less NCAA Tounament money to the schools that earned it? Zero chance. Big East would be a more credible rumor. Wichita State, maybe.

Doesn't the AAC have two teams in the Top 25, as well as UConn (perennial national championship contender in both men's and women's basketball)?

The AAC is a better basketball conference than the A10.

Again, according to the story, they're seeking to get even stronger.

UCONN may be going back to the Big East

(03-03-2017 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Why would Dayton and/or VCU go to a lesser basketball conference that focuses on football, would substantially increase travel, and allots less NCAA Tounament money to the schools that earned it? Zero chance. Big East would be a more credible rumor. Wichita State, maybe.

The conference RPIs are essentially the same, and if those schools jumped the AAC would be a much better basketball conference.

Not sure about the payouts, so I'll take your word for it, but things like that can be negotiated. Travel for Olympic sports would be burdensome, so perhaps they negotiate something there.

Not sure why it would make sense for those schools to leave or why it would make us want to go indy

Yeah, if that happens, why would we go independent? Not sure how this does much to us unless it kicks off a bunch of moves. We're not going A10--the only avenues for us to move are the AAC or Big East, and that's not happening.

(03-03-2017 12:12 PM)djnva Wrote:  

(03-03-2017 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Why would Dayton and/or VCU go to a lesser basketball conference that focuses on football, would substantially increase travel, and allots less NCAA Tounament money to the schools that earned it? Zero chance. Big East would be a more credible rumor. Wichita State, maybe.

The conference RPIs are essentially the same, and if those schools jumped the AAC would be a much better basketball conference.

Not sure about the payouts, so I'll take your word for it, but things like that can be negotiated. Travel for Olympic sports would be burdensome, so perhaps they negotiate something there.

You are looking at a one-year sample. The A-10 is having a bad year compared to normal and the AAC is having a better year than normal. On average, the A10 is better and sends more teams to the tournament.

I get that. But that includes VCU and Dayton who might be jumping.

Look at the A-10 without those schools--who's the standard bearer?

(03-03-2017 12:36 PM)djnva Wrote:  I get that. But that includes VCU and Dayton who might be jumping.

Look at the A-10 without those schools--who's the standard bearer?

Davidson, St. Joe's, St. Bonnies, Richmond, URI, and GW have all been in the NCAAs in the last few years. La Salle makes it from time to time as well. AAC has Cincy and Temple. Memphis lost the Coach Cal momentum and I bet SMU loses the Larry Brown momentum and UCONN the Calhoun momentum in the next couple of years as well. Top to bottom, the A10 has better basketball programs and they are much more regional.

St. Bonaventure has been to the NCAAs once since 2000, and hasn't won a game since 1970.
GW has been to the NCAAs once in last 10 years.
URI hasn't been to NCAAs since 1999.
LaSalle has made it once since 1992.

I do get the regional argument though, but we'll have to agree to disagree whether the 4 schools I listed above give that conference any basketball bonafides.

(03-03-2017 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Why would Dayton and/or VCU go to a lesser basketball conference that focuses on football, would substantially increase travel, and allots less NCAA Tounament money to the schools that earned it? Zero chance. Big East would be a more credible rumor. Wichita State, maybe.

lesser?
AAC RPI = 7
A-10 RPI = 8

Having a mix of football playing schools and non-football playing schools is how the AAC came into being in the first place. I get the AAC basketball coaches would like to increase their basketball strength but a house divided between football and basketball will doom them. Again.

(03-03-2017 04:24 PM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  Having a mix of football playing schools and non-football playing schools is how the AAC came into being in the first place. I get the AAC basketball coaches would like to increase their basketball strength but a house divided between football and basketball will doom them. Again.

It won't be evenly spli like the BE was. A few non FB schools won't upset the apple cart but they will be treated like the redheaded stepchild. I think the profile and exposure would be greater for VCU and maybe some more money but it may be a wash when you account for travel and NCAA distributions left on the table. It'll be a risk for them though if the B12 or any other P5 schools decides to move again.

If they do move, would that help or hurt ODU's chances of getting an invite in the future. I think it signifies that they won't expand with more FB schools but if they're raided they will likely replace.

(03-03-2017 11:43 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Apparently reported in 2-3 places, that the AAC is considering adding Wichita State, Dayton and VCU in an effort to beef up its basketball strength. Conversations apparently tasking place "at the highest levels," whatever that might mean.

If that happens, what might we do, if anything? Would it be smart to go indy in football for the sake of better, less-travel-weary basketball? Lots of people on here better at this than me, so I'm interested in opinions.

Link:

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wic...63693.html

I am not suggesting I am any kind of expert, but why does it seem that we (C-USA) just sits around and lets things happen around it. I know it would be adding and an uneven number in the conference again, but WSU seesm like a perfect fit for C-USA other than the fact we probably cannot pay out anything near what they get now

That would be a fracking kick in the pants if VCU were to up and take our spot in the AAC. I don't see the AAC taking non-football schools any more than the A10 taking football schools. As stated a zillion times too, its just a matter of time before UCONN, Houston and Cincy (and maybe Memphis leave). Would I go indy in football for an invite to the A10 or AAC as it stands now... yes I would. Will that be an option? Probably not. Our best bet is to hope the AAC does nothing until the big 3 leave and hope we are well positioned for the invite. I'm sick of seeing our former peers like VCU, Wichita, GMU, Butler etc moving on to better conferences while we're stuck. I love football, but it was also supposed to move us to greater things, but now it seems to be holding us back.

Also, the article states WSU and others "such as"... Heres hoping Wood is on the phone and camped outside of the AAC offices 24/7.

We dont have a "spot in the AAC."