You must have a short memory amigo.

Both MN and TT were used as examples of brilliant coaching performances time and time again.

It ain't about Pitino. For the last time.

Minnesota isn't Oregon State or one of the very few P5, big state school, impossible basketball programs.

They have won before.

(02-26-2017 02:37 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Minnesota isn't Oregon State or one of the very few P5, big state school, impossible basketball programs.

They have won before.

Oregon State was once a power under Ralph Miller in the late 70s early 80s. But haven't done much since he retired. I think Oregon's Nike ties may have something to do with it.

(02-26-2017 02:19 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  You must have a short memory amigo.

Both MN and TT were used as examples of brilliant coaching performances time and time again.

It ain't about Pitino. For the last time.

Those jobs are still hard jobs to win at. They will have coaches that do some good things there and Tubby, Haskins, and Pitino are apart of those select few. To be honest Pitino was on the hot seat this year and the fan apathy was bad last season. He got the right players in and they bought in to his system and he is having a successful year. If he moves on though, the next new coach will face the challenges of staying successful there. Chris Beard is winning at Texas Tech but they aren't performing to the expectations that they expected when they thought Tubby would be coaching there this season.

(02-25-2017 11:23 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 07:03 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 06:50 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Huh?

Who said Tubby isn't a good coach in this thread?

Why else are we posting about Minnesota? A school that has underground tunnels between buildings, because of the snow. How far removed can you get from Memphis? Of course with the warm winters now, what are they using the tunnels for? Maybe that's where the basketball team's cathouse is?

many of the walkways are overground

but I wouldn't expect somebody from Hernando to be aware of that

Probably not, but I'm not from hernando. So, Minnesota has an above ground. I figure that is where they put the snow and sled dogs?

(02-26-2017 03:00 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 02:19 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  You must have a short memory amigo.

Both MN and TT were used as examples of brilliant coaching performances time and time again.

It ain't about Pitino. For the last time.

Those jobs are still hard jobs to win at. They will have coaches that do some good things there and Tubby, Haskins, and Pitino are apart of those select few. To be honest Pitino was on the hot seat this year and the fan apathy was bad last season. He got the right players in and they bought in to his system and he is having a successful year. If he moves on though, the next new coach will face the challenges of staying successful there. Chris Beard is winning at Texas Tech but they aren't performing to the expectations that they expected when they thought Tubby would be coaching there this season.

Yes, I know, what is going on with Beard? I thought everyone was saying the guy had a good recruiting year.

(02-26-2017 03:26 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:00 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 02:19 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  You must have a short memory amigo.

Both MN and TT were used as examples of brilliant coaching performances time and time again.

It ain't about Pitino. For the last time.

Those jobs are still hard jobs to win at. They will have coaches that do some good things there and Tubby, Haskins, and Pitino are apart of those select few. To be honest Pitino was on the hot seat this year and the fan apathy was bad last season. He got the right players in and they bought in to his system and he is having a successful year. If he moves on though, the next new coach will face the challenges of staying successful there. Chris Beard is winning at Texas Tech but they aren't performing to the expectations that they expected when they thought Tubby would be coaching there this season.

Yes, I know, what is going on with Beard? I thought everyone was saying the guy had a good recruiting year.

Reality has set in
It'll take him 2-3 yrs to get going

(02-26-2017 03:43 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:26 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:00 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 02:19 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  You must have a short memory amigo.

Both MN and TT were used as examples of brilliant coaching performances time and time again.

It ain't about Pitino. For the last time.

Those jobs are still hard jobs to win at. They will have coaches that do some good things there and Tubby, Haskins, and Pitino are apart of those select few. To be honest Pitino was on the hot seat this year and the fan apathy was bad last season. He got the right players in and they bought in to his system and he is having a successful year. If he moves on though, the next new coach will face the challenges of staying successful there. Chris Beard is winning at Texas Tech but they aren't performing to the expectations that they expected when they thought Tubby would be coaching there this season.

Yes, I know, what is going on with Beard? I thought everyone was saying the guy had a good recruiting year.

Reality has set in
It'll take him 2-3 yrs to get going

He seems to like filling his class with 5'10"-6'0" juco combo guards as well. Tubby is recruiting tall guards here.

(02-26-2017 04:07 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:43 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:26 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:00 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 02:19 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  You must have a short memory amigo.

Both MN and TT were used as examples of brilliant coaching performances time and time again.

It ain't about Pitino. For the last time.

Those jobs are still hard jobs to win at. They will have coaches that do some good things there and Tubby, Haskins, and Pitino are apart of those select few. To be honest Pitino was on the hot seat this year and the fan apathy was bad last season. He got the right players in and they bought in to his system and he is having a successful year. If he moves on though, the next new coach will face the challenges of staying successful there. Chris Beard is winning at Texas Tech but they aren't performing to the expectations that they expected when they thought Tubby would be coaching there this season.

Yes, I know, what is going on with Beard? I thought everyone was saying the guy had a good recruiting year.

Reality has set in
It'll take him 2-3 yrs to get going

He seems to like filling his class with 5'10"-6'0" juco combo guards as well. Tubby is recruiting tall guards here.

Yeah...it won't be easy recruiting at TTU. Definitely will be interesting to see how Beard's team performs the next 2-3 years.

(02-26-2017 02:19 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  You must have a short memory amigo.

Both MN and TT were used as examples of brilliant coaching performances time and time again.

It ain't about Pitino. For the last time.

"We've gone over it time and time again."

(02-26-2017 04:40 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 04:07 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:43 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:26 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 03:00 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Those jobs are still hard jobs to win at. They will have coaches that do some good things there and Tubby, Haskins, and Pitino are apart of those select few. To be honest Pitino was on the hot seat this year and the fan apathy was bad last season. He got the right players in and they bought in to his system and he is having a successful year. If he moves on though, the next new coach will face the challenges of staying successful there. Chris Beard is winning at Texas Tech but they aren't performing to the expectations that they expected when they thought Tubby would be coaching there this season.

Yes, I know, what is going on with Beard? I thought everyone was saying the guy had a good recruiting year.

Reality has set in
It'll take him 2-3 yrs to get going

He seems to like filling his class with 5'10"-6'0" juco combo guards as well. Tubby is recruiting tall guards here.

Yeah...it won't be easy recruiting at TTU. Definitely will be interesting to see how Beard's team performs the next 2-3 years.

In addition to the five guys he brought in this summer, he snagged a 4* transfer from USF and a 6-11 guy from Depaul who will play in the 2017-18 season.

They were calling for his head last year too. Bottom line, the dude can coach. He learned from the best in the game IMO.

(02-25-2017 11:54 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What else could this thread be about other than Tubby not being a good coach?

Are we thinking of firing Tubby and hiring Pitino? I'd rather have the other Pitino.

If you are a waitress we can probably work something out.

(02-27-2017 02:15 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 11:54 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What else could this thread be about other than Tubby not being a good coach?

Are we thinking of firing Tubby and hiring Pitino? I'd rather have the other Pitino.

If you are a waitress we can probably work something out.

(02-26-2017 01:27 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 12:09 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 11:54 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What else could this thread be about other than Tubby not being a good coach?

Um...that maybe Minnesota isn't as hard a job as some implied?

That maybe Tubby isn't necessarily a miracle worker?

Nowhere does that mean he's not a good coach.

Only in the minds of the irrational and overly defensive.

OK.
Minnesota had one of those cough cough AD's when Tubby was coach.
I didn't know Teague had to resign for sexual harassment of colleagues--just did a search.
http://deadspin.com/minnesota-ad-resigns...1722693283

So maybe Pitino doing better might have something to do with Teague being gone. At least this woman seems to think the whole Athletic Dept was dysfunctional when Teague was there. Interesting book blurb below.

http://www.startribune.com/pam-bortons-n...389765001/
*Borton (former Gopher Women's BB coach) writes candidly of the 2012-13 season, after which she expected to be fired by Teague — who was in his first year on the job. Instead, it was Smith who was fired, after coaching the Gophers men’s team to an NCAA tournament victory.

“Tubby’s firing was a lesson in how not to do things,” Borton writes. “There wasn’t a communication plan in place and the conduct of the University was an embarrassment, full of disrespect, and a disgrace to a great man whose character, integrity and professionalism were unassailable.”

But I didn't know people thought Tubby was a miracle worker.

I guess we'll see if he's a good coach here.

The reason Orlando was released is not being mentioned in these articles. He upset some boosters right off by giving an assistant job to someone with questionable character and who the University would not OK the hire ending up with the U o Minn being sued over the incident for $1.2 million..

Then things got a little hotter between him and the boosters when Saul was arrested for DUI and the Athletic Department sort of swept it under the rug. Giving him a five day suspension without pay and then reinstating his pay and kept him on hiatus until things cooled down and he was then allowed to return to the bench.

(02-25-2017 06:45 PM)Davidofmtp Wrote:  Big 10 sucks this year. Iowa, a team Memphis beat earlier this year, handling Maryland pretty easily at Maryland. So unless Iowa is really good ( which has to be impossible since Tubby's team beat them) or the Big 10 sucks. Which is it Tubby haters?

You have to know the B10 is really really down when Northwestern goes to the Dance.

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(03-01-2017 04:51 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 01:27 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 12:09 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 11:54 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What else could this thread be about other than Tubby not being a good coach?

Um...that maybe Minnesota isn't as hard a job as some implied?

That maybe Tubby isn't necessarily a miracle worker?

Nowhere does that mean he's not a good coach.

Only in the minds of the irrational and overly defensive.

OK.
Minnesota had one of those cough cough AD's when Tubby was coach.
I didn't know Teague had to resign for sexual harassment of colleagues--just did a search.
http://deadspin.com/minnesota-ad-resigns...1722693283

So maybe Pitino doing better might have something to do with Teague being gone. At least this woman seems to think the whole Athletic Dept was dysfunctional when Teague was there. Interesting book blurb below.

http://www.startribune.com/pam-bortons-n...389765001/
*Borton (former Gopher Women's BB coach) writes candidly of the 2012-13 season, after which she expected to be fired by Teague — who was in his first year on the job. Instead, it was Smith who was fired, after coaching the Gophers men’s team to an NCAA tournament victory.

“Tubby’s firing was a lesson in how not to do things,” Borton writes. “There wasn’t a communication plan in place and the conduct of the University was an embarrassment, full of disrespect, and a disgrace to a great man whose character, integrity and professionalism were unassailable.”

But I didn't know people thought Tubby was a miracle worker.

I guess we'll see if he's a good coach here.

The reason Orlando was released is not being mentioned in these articles. He upset some boosters right off by giving an assistant job to someone with questionable character and who the University would not OK the hire ending up with the U o Minn being sued over the incident for $1.2 million..

Then things got a little hotter between him and the boosters when Saul was arrested for DUI and the Athletic Department sort of swept it under the rug. Giving him a five day suspension without pay and then reinstating his pay and kept him on hiatus until things cooled down and he was then allowed to return to the bench.

You need to research the man who fired him just a little bit.

I know NASCAR, in honor of your papa Lawson poll question.

Would the members of this board, ban NASCAR if he was caught in bed with a dead hooker?

All I know is that he wouldn't be banned if caught with a live one, right NASCAR?

If you're going to start some crap about someone (KL, TS), at least make it interesting.

(02-25-2017 05:39 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Pitino about to win more games in a season than Tubby ever did AND have a higher B10 finish.

Another "theory" shattered.

Yours is just another attempt to criticize Tubby. You are comparing apples and oranges. The B10 is about at it's lowest ranking across the conference as it has ever been - at least in my memory. Not so when Tubby was in the league. The B10 has only one school ranked in the top 20 - Purdue at #16. B10 probably had 5-6 schools ranked during the Tubby tenure at MN.

RRR