(02-19-2017 08:30 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 11:45 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 05:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Just remember. Only fascists want to destroy the media

Fascists don't destroy media. They manipulate and control it. They infiltrate it with their hacks so that there is never an opposition voice inside the media. So that every word out of the media praises them unconditionally, manipulating the public.

That is what the Democrat Party achieved in the past 30 years. The Democrat Party, the true fascists.

Saw an article today that finally mentioned the "M" word. Its the scary thing about the Democratic Party. McCarthyism on a vast scale.
Trump burned bridges and there was nothing he could do to get me to vote for him. But the McCarthyism by the press, Democrats and HRC convinced me to vote for Trump. And the press and Democrats keep doubling down on their totalitarian behavior.

Exactly.

I didn't choose to become a Trump apologist. The violent left and its cheerleading media forced that position on me.

If the Leftist MSM doesn't wake up you won't be the last one. It'll get so bad that even when they posit the truth they still won't be believed. That's sad for them and great for Fox. It's a good reason they're number one.

I watched the movie "Patriots Day" or whatever it's called and even Fox was mentioned as the possible reason they caught the Tsanaerves brothers or however it's spelled.

No one I know trusts the media. That's the media's fault, not Trumps.

(02-17-2017 05:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Just remember. Only fascists want to destroy the media

I tend to find that authoritarian governments co-opt or control the media to push their narrative/propaganda. The MSM already allowed that to happen and became the propaganda arm of the left-wing/dems.

The public hates and distrusts the MSM because of this propaganda. I have no problem with Trump calling them out for their behavior.

The MSM claims that Trump declared war on them, but they declared war on Trump much further back.

(02-20-2017 08:02 AM)VA49er Wrote:  No one I know trusts the media. That's the media's fault, not Trumps.

Exactly.

With today's internet, the media no longer has carte blanche to play with what the truth or, and this is what they more often engage in - is play the distortion game with what happens by leaving out pertinent parts of what happens.

Today, there are enough sources that the media seems to continually have egg on their collective faces for playing games with the truth to push their agenda.

A media with no credibility is no more than the National Enquirer.

Why do I find myself thinking, on so many issues involving Trump, that both Trump and those opposing him are wrong?

(02-20-2017 08:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Why do I find myself thinking, on so many issues involving Trump, that both Trump and those opposing him are wrong?

The media is so over the top, you can't ignore it. You need to point out their bias, lies and hypocrisy.

Now it would probably be better to have surrogates do it, but that's not Trump's style.

(02-19-2017 08:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:16 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 05:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No other way to describe his latest tweet.
"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!" ~ Donald J. Trump
Sad. Very very sad.

(02-17-2017 05:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Just remember. Only fascists want to destroy the media

And when it was the Obama administration calling reporters "agents" and "accomplices" and threatening to prosecute them under the Espionage Act, what did you boys say?

Why, nothing, of course. That was their team doing it.

Fascists don't want to destroy the media, they want to control the media. Which the left pretty much had until Fox came along.

What a beautiful straw man he constructed and nice how you jumped onto the nonsense.

I don't have any idea what you're even talking about...and since when am I required to read and react to every thread here when I may not have ever even seen it?

Can you point to an example where I agreed with Obama's actions regarding this?

I did a little digging and found this article, which talks about people like Snowden. And after reading it, I agree that these folks should for the most part be prosecuted.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/sta...more-all-/

That being said, nothing we know of thus far points to any person in a similar situation. We have no facts yet. So what, I'm supposed to blanketly say someone needs prosecuted when we have no clue on anything yet?

If someone comes to light and they broke the law, I want them charged just like I think I want Snowden charged. But in all honesty, I've not spent that much energy on understanding the whole Snowden case.

Bottom line, you guys attack is baseless in absence of evidence of me defending Obama, and I'm owed an apology.

P.S.: Regardless of any of that, Obama N E V E R called the entirety of the press the enemy of the American people!

Quote:@NBCNews

Anyone find this funny? He didn't want to lump in the group that wrote him checks all those years.

(02-20-2017 11:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:16 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 05:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No other way to describe his latest tweet.
"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!" ~ Donald J. Trump
Sad. Very very sad.

(02-17-2017 05:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Just remember. Only fascists want to destroy the media

And when it was the Obama administration calling reporters "agents" and "accomplices" and threatening to prosecute them under the Espionage Act, what did you boys say?

Why, nothing, of course. That was their team doing it.
Fascists don't want to destroy the media, they want to control the media. Which the left pretty much had until Fox came along.

What a beautiful straw man he constructed and nice how you jumped onto the nonsense.
I don't have any idea what you're even talking about...and since when am I required to read and react to every thread here when I may not have ever even seen it?
Can you point to an example where I agreed with Obama's actions regarding this?
I did a little digging and found this article, which talks about people like Snowden. And after reading it, I agree that these folks should for the most part be prosecuted.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/sta...more-all-/
That being said, nothing we know of thus far points to any person in a similar situation. We have no facts yet. So wha, I'm supposed to blanketly say someone needs prosecuted when we have no clue on anything yet?
If someone comes to light and they broke the law, I want them charged just like I think I want Snowden charged. But in all honesty, I've not spent that much energy on understanding the whole Snowden case.
Bottom line, you guys attack is baseless in absence of evidence of me defending Obama, and I'm owed an apology.
P.S.: Regardless of any of that, Obama N E V E R called the entirety of the press the enemy of the American people!

I'd be really interested in knowing where I attacked you. That's probably why you have no idea what this is about. I was speaking of the generic left, which I would have thought obvious from the context. I wasn't even replying to your post.

I'm certainly not offering any apology until I have some idea what I'm apologizing for.

(02-20-2017 11:16 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

Quote:@NBCNews

Anyone find this funny? He didn't want to lump in the group that wrote him checks all those years.

I saw someone else point that out. Plus he still has an interest as an EP of The Apprentice.

(02-20-2017 11:16 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 11:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:16 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 05:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No other way to describe his latest tweet.
"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!" ~ Donald J. Trump
Sad. Very very sad.

(02-17-2017 05:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  Just remember. Only fascists want to destroy the media

And when it was the Obama administration calling reporters "agents" and "accomplices" and threatening to prosecute them under the Espionage Act, what did you boys say?

Why, nothing, of course. That was their team doing it.
Fascists don't want to destroy the media, they want to control the media. Which the left pretty much had until Fox came along.

What a beautiful straw man he constructed and nice how you jumped onto the nonsense.
I don't have any idea what you're even talking about...and since when am I required to read and react to every thread here when I may not have ever even seen it?
Can you point to an example where I agreed with Obama's actions regarding this?
I did a little digging and found this article, which talks about people like Snowden. And after reading it, I agree that these folks should for the most part be prosecuted.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/sta...more-all-/
That being said, nothing we know of thus far points to any person in a similar situation. We have no facts yet. So wha, I'm supposed to blanketly say someone needs prosecuted when we have no clue on anything yet?
If someone comes to light and they broke the law, I want them charged just like I think I want Snowden charged. But in all honesty, I've not spent that much energy on understanding the whole Snowden case.
Bottom line, you guys attack is baseless in absence of evidence of me defending Obama, and I'm owed an apology.
P.S.: Regardless of any of that, Obama N E V E R called the entirety of the press the enemy of the American people!

I'd be really interested in knowing where I attacked you. That's probably why you have no idea what this is about. I was speaking of the generic left, which I would have thought obvious from the context. I wasn't even replying to your post.

I'm certainly not offering any apology until I have some idea what I'm apologizing for.

His reply was to me and John, not the left. So you accused me (and John) of purposeful silence just because it was something Obama did.

There's been a twenty fold increase in water carrying over the last month. These cons are blind to Trumps actions.

(02-20-2017 11:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  There's been a twenty fold increase in water carrying over the last month. These cons are blind to Trumps actions.

I've been averse to using that phrase, but the massive hypocrisy has not escaped me one bit. Especially with what I've been through here in recent years...lol.

Tom you should go back to some of those threads these yahoots created and then copy and paste some of the heavy water carrying now! It's only a month in too. Trump has lied more in a month. Straight irrefutable lies than Obama did in 8 years.


Today Bowling Green stands with Sweden.

(02-20-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 11:16 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 11:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:16 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  And when it was the Obama administration calling reporters "agents" and "accomplices" and threatening to prosecute them under the Espionage Act, what did you boys say?

Why, nothing, of course. That was their team doing it.
Fascists don't want to destroy the media, they want to control the media. Which the left pretty much had until Fox came along.

What a beautiful straw man he constructed and nice how you jumped onto the nonsense.
I don't have any idea what you're even talking about...and since when am I required to read and react to every thread here when I may not have ever even seen it?
Can you point to an example where I agreed with Obama's actions regarding this?
I did a little digging and found this article, which talks about people like Snowden. And after reading it, I agree that these folks should for the most part be prosecuted.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/sta...more-all-/
That being said, nothing we know of thus far points to any person in a similar situation. We have no facts yet. So wha, I'm supposed to blanketly say someone needs prosecuted when we have no clue on anything yet?
If someone comes to light and they broke the law, I want them charged just like I think I want Snowden charged. But in all honesty, I've not spent that much energy on understanding the whole Snowden case.
Bottom line, you guys attack is baseless in absence of evidence of me defending Obama, and I'm owed an apology.
P.S.: Regardless of any of that, Obama N E V E R called the entirety of the press the enemy of the American people!

I'd be really interested in knowing where I attacked you. That's probably why you have no idea what this is about. I was speaking of the generic left, which I would have thought obvious from the context. I wasn't even replying to your post.
I'm certainly not offering any apology until I have some idea what I'm apologizing for.

His reply was to me and John, not the left. So you accused me (and John) of purposeful silence just because it was something Obama did.

I took "you boys" to mean the generic left. It thought it was obvious that's where my comments were directed. Sorry you didn't read it that way.

wait how am i involved in this?

(02-20-2017 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Tom you should go back to some of those threads these yahoots created and then copy and paste some of the heavy water carrying now! It's only a month in too. Trump has lied more in a month. Straight irrefutable lies than Obama did in 8 years.


Today Bowling Green stands with Sweden.

I don't want to give them the satisfaction that I care about them. Not worth my time. I don't need to prove what we both clearly know.

(02-20-2017 11:37 AM)john01992 Wrote:  wait how am i involved in this?

Blazer tried to make a point...and failed.

(02-20-2017 11:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 11:37 AM)john01992 Wrote:  wait how am i involved in this?

Blazer tried to make a point...and failed.

I thought owl tried to make a point and failed. "fake news" is pretty much identical to hitler's lügenpresse yet owl is insisting they are different?

Can the liberals at least get together and consolidate what the hell you are butthurt about? It is impossible to follow.