(02-17-2017 05:07 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 05:05 PM)sportsfan Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 04:50 PM)Cowboy95 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 04:23 PM)sportsfan Wrote:  First of all, he was a QB not a RB and there is a difference.
Next, he has zero coaching experience, zero. And you're going to hire him at a D1 program?
Third, Carey said quite clearly that he was hired on until it was for him to report for football in the CFL.
And let's not forget the football walkout and boycott of Carey. I see it's resurfaced but only to the point where it's still in the I know a guy or a mother who knows this to be a fact stage. I don't care if the so-called source was supposed to be a player, someone who was there needs to step up in public and vouch for it in public. This second-hand business carries no weight with me or a lot of people.
Just another piece of message board garbage ala the first football game going to Rockford or Aurora and the guy up north who the inside info on the master plan announcement but couldn't reveal anything more he said that he'd already said too much. I call BS and, if I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

I can't personally say one way or another if the "walk out" ever happened, but expecting a player, coach, or AD to publicly admit it is not a very realistic expectation. None of them will nor should they do such a thing. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, though. The fact is most of us will never know for sure.

What is for sure is the beat down NIU took in that bowl game was by far the most statistically lobsided bowl game ever. So, I hope there was some type of a cataclysmic event such as a walk out. It would at least provide some type of explanation as to how such a disaster could occur.

If someone were to come forward, it would probably be a player who has left the program one way or another. What about the player who's mother was supposedly called a drunk by Carey? That story has been floated around on these boards. You would think that guy would have something to say.
As to the game itself, I agree that Graham just could not compete given the injury and his skill set. The fact that we kept giving it back to BSU and that we could not stop them led to the score. With a healthy #1 or #2 QB, we still might not win but we'd have some offense and maybe the score is in the 38- 24 range or something similar. No one will ever know.

The defense didn't show up either, even at the very beginning of the game. It wasn't just Graham.

Yeah pinning that debacle on having a 4th or 5th string QB does not explain the extent of that massacre.

As for a former player, especially one who already suffered from a very private, sensitive part of his life made public by a crazy piece of garbage who should be a leader, making the incident more public, I find that highly unlikely. Put yourself in his position. If it were me I think I would rather try to forget about it and move on with my life rather than tell the whole world about it. Likewise for anyone else involved. If you were his friend or teammate you wouldn't want to rebroadcast something that is likely very sensitive and difficult for that person to the general public.

(02-16-2017 11:38 PM)randy6969 Wrote:  OfNg

(02-16-2017 10:10 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  109 guys on the roster in one of the programs. Don't know how many travel.

It was at a morning all team meeting b4 they had gone to SD you morron. Carey refused to let Perez Ford talk and ordered the guys to position rooms and they refused then carey told the coaches to get the bowl gear from the lockers and the team all ran to the lockers grabed the gear and left the building and refused to practice that day. 20 srs then met with Frazier and said team would not go to bowl if Carey was allowed to coach. Frazier convinced them to go and you saw the results.

Deny if u want but those are all FACTS

I've been very critical of Cary the past two years but this situation sounds like the players' fault. They had a lousy practice that Cary wasn't happy with and they had the nerve to refuse to run it through again? Cary wanted to withhold the Bowl gear until they got their act together but they left practice to get their gear? Sounds like a bunch of spoiled little brats who deserved to get their butts whupped. Hopefully, we have a better group with more dedication and character than that now. The gear is more important than practice? Come on, man!

(02-17-2017 05:07 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  The defense didn't show up either, even at the very beginning of the game. It wasn't just Graham.

It wasn't just Graham. It was also Carey's coaching. It was also a so-so NIU team versus a pretty good Boise team. We try to pinpoint NIUs decline to one thing. It's all Carey's fault. It's all Grahams fault. Or Frazier. Maybe recruiting. It's probably a cumulative effect of all these things. The defense was outplayed that day. Boise's O-line manhandled our D-line. Plus Carey had no answer to cover the Boise RB coming out of the backfield for passes. Boise went hi-tempo offense and never took their foot off the gas. The Huskies were out-coached and out-played in a bowl game they shouldn't have been in. I don't think the team quite(saying that makes people feel better about the athletic ability of the Huskies, as in "they could compete physically if they tried"). I believe the team realized that if they wanted to win this game it was going to be a shoot-out. But when the team sees Graham fumble away 2 opportunities in the red-zone it really breaks their will. Bad coaching and bad QB play makes for a bad result. Especially if the team on the other side of the ball has more talent.

Anywho, looks like Lynch hasn't been named coach. Wouldn't there be an announcement by now?

#morron

Ahhhhhh nothing like some good ol fake news in the morning. Lol

(02-18-2017 11:05 AM)7 Wrote:  #morron

(02-17-2017 01:47 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Why RB coach? Why not QB coach instead?

because passing is involved

(02-18-2017 07:15 PM)tubaguy21 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 01:47 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Why RB coach? Why not QB coach instead?

because passing is involved

Honestly, would Lynch be any worse as a passing coach than the people they've had? Who are these star QBs they've had as coach that can help coach our players? It's not like we have Marino on the sidelines.

(02-18-2017 07:25 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 07:15 PM)tubaguy21 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 01:47 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Why RB coach? Why not QB coach instead?

because passing is involved

Honestly, would Lynch be any worse as a passing coach than the people they've had? Who are these star QBs they've had as coach that can help coach our players? It's not like we have Marino on the sidelines.

Huh? The last 3 QBs were the best two QBs in school history and Hare was probably in the top 5-7. Why would we be looking to replace our QB coach?

Also, Lynch as RB coach (isn't happening) would be an odd hire considering he has literally no coaching experience and sans a couple months with the Bears has never played the position.

(02-18-2017 07:30 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 07:25 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 07:15 PM)tubaguy21 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 01:47 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Why RB coach? Why not QB coach instead?

because passing is involved

Honestly, would Lynch be any worse as a passing coach than the people they've had? Who are these star QBs they've had as coach that can help coach our players? It's not like we have Marino on the sidelines.

Huh? The last 3 QBs were the best two QBs in school history and Hare was probably in the top 5-7. Why would we be looking to replace our QB coach?

I meant if we had to replace the QB coach.

Lynch was at the basketball game today, in whatever capacity. The football coaches were wandering around with quite a few visitors in tow and some of those kids were humongous. We were saying we don't care who that kid is, we want him on our team. Good lord.

Also, just an observation. I stopped to see my mother at her geriatric home and then saw much the same crowd at the game. It seemed like everybody there was over 50. An exaggeration, but not much of one. Younger people are just not interested in attending live sporting events, sad but true.

Quick game thoughts: Nice comeback by our guys in the second half after going cold in the middle. I liked their effort. Too bad we couldn't hit that shot at the buzzer to win in regulation, had a play drawn up with options for either German or the shooter, got a good look. German really had a nice game, he's going to be special.

(02-18-2017 07:25 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 07:15 PM)tubaguy21 Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 01:47 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Why RB coach? Why not QB coach instead?

because passing is involved

Honestly, would Lynch be any worse as a passing coach than the people they've had? Who are these star QBs they've had as coach that can help coach our players? It's not like we have Marino on the sidelines.

That's not exactly the best reason to hire him, if that ends up happening. Also, just because someone was a good player, doesn't mean he'll make a good coach. Most times the best players AREN'T the best coaches.

(02-18-2017 07:34 PM)7 Wrote:  Also, Lynch as RB coach (isn't happening) would be an odd hire considering he has literally no coaching experience and sans a couple months with the Bears has never played the position.

Pretty sure JL would make an amazing RB coach or any position coach because he has a great feel for the game and high football IQ. His grit, passion, and intensity would take him far as a coach.

(02-16-2017 09:52 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Nice to see Lynch back at the university. Lynch - get Huff figured out and we'll have a hell of a running game this year, regardless of who else steps up.

Second that

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(02-19-2017 04:33 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 09:52 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Nice to see Lynch back at the university. Lynch - get Huff figured out and we'll have a hell of a running game this year, regardless of who else steps up.

Second that

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Too bad the story was false. Maybe Lynch can talk to Huff anyway?

He would be an amazing recruiting coordinator. That could be his spot, along with a minor ass"t coaching gig.

Why do people assume that because JL was an amazing college football player, he would be an amazing coach or recruiting coordinator? Seriously...coaching and doing are such different things. There are far more complete fails trying to transition over than there are successes.

(02-19-2017 08:47 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Why do people assume that because JL was an amazing college football player, he would be an amazing coach or recruiting coordinator? Seriously...coaching and doing are such different things. There are far more complete fails trying to transition over than there are successes.

He might be the next PJ Fleck, you never know.