Ball State with 21 assist, NIU with 7

Going on 11 minutes without a field goal?

(02-14-2017 11:03 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Going on 11 minutes without a field goal?

They have no backcourt. The inability to develop Porter and Wilson absolutely screwed the season. You have German who has a ton of ability but is out of control a lot of times and Thomas who is just kinda there doing nothing.

(02-14-2017 11:04 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:03 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Going on 11 minutes without a field goal?

They have no backcourt. The inability to develop Porter and Wilson absolutely screwed the season. You have German who has a ton of ability but is out of control a lot of times and Thomas who is just kinda there doing nothing.

Yep. It's just ridiculous HOW extreme it is.

I have seen enough to realize MM will never ever ever ever ever ever change his style. Being stubborn is ok if it breeds success, but when you don't adapt after failure after failure after failure, it is alarming and a red flag. It is just shocking to me how similar for different sports Coach Carey and Monty are. Maybe its the DeKalb water

(02-14-2017 11:10 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:04 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:03 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Going on 11 minutes without a field goal?

They have no backcourt. The inability to develop Porter and Wilson absolutely screwed the season. You have German who has a ton of ability but is out of control a lot of times and Thomas who is just kinda there doing nothing.

Yep. It's just ridiculous HOW extreme it is.

NIU is totally fine in this game if they don't go into prevent mode with 7 mins left

Huskies are stuck with 2 bad coaching contracts and an AD who is clueless. This is a bad time to be an NIU fan

Three straight games with a chance to take control of the MAC West and three bad losses. Compounded by the fact that the MAC West is not very good. The program has taken a big step back this year and considering they weren't that great last year it says a lot about the current state of NIU hoops.

(02-14-2017 11:15 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Three straight games with a chance to take control of the MAC West and three bad losses. Compounded by the fact that the MAC West is not very good. The program has taken a big step back this year and considering they weren't that great last year it says a lot about the current state of NIU hoops.

Like people said, Coach Montgomery's success at NIU was linked to this sophomore class. At least 2 of those have been complete disappointments and Coach Monty has shown he is not capable of being a coach of even a mediocre offense. Like football, we will be in limbo a few years with the contract. How sad is it when NIU football and basketball have no possibility of improvement until 2020, scary scary thought. The loss at WMU is somewhat excusable, WMU imo is an under the radar program right now, but tonight, wow, so so so so so so bad

I went back in time and watched a Judson/Patton team playing tonight. It was a nightmare!!!! Then I woke up and realized that it was tonight and my nightmare was real..

(02-14-2017 11:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:15 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Three straight games with a chance to take control of the MAC West and three bad losses. Compounded by the fact that the MAC West is not very good. The program has taken a big step back this year and considering they weren't that great last year it says a lot about the current state of NIU hoops.

Like people said, Coach Montgomery's success at NIU was linked to this sophomore class. At least 2 of those have been complete disappointments and Coach Monty has shown he is not capable of being a coach of even a mediocre offense. Like football, we will be in limbo a few years with the contract. How sad is it when NIU football and basketball have no possibility of improvement until 2020, scary scary thought. The loss at WMU is somewhat excusable, WMU imo is an under the radar program right now, but tonight, wow, so so so so so so bad

Sad!

(02-14-2017 11:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:15 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Three straight games with a chance to take control of the MAC West and three bad losses. Compounded by the fact that the MAC West is not very good. The program has taken a big step back this year and considering they weren't that great last year it says a lot about the current state of NIU hoops.

Like people said, Coach Montgomery's success at NIU was linked to this sophomore class. At least 2 of those have been complete disappointments and Coach Monty has shown he is not capable of being a coach of even a mediocre offense. Like football, we will be in limbo a few years with the contract. How sad is it when NIU football and basketball have no possibility of improvement until 2020, scary scary thought. The loss at WMU is somewhat excusable, WMU imo is an under the radar program right now, but tonight, wow, so so so so so so bad

Not to worry We'll be in FCS before that

(02-14-2017 11:19 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  I went back in time and watched a Judson/Patton team playing tonight. It was a nightmare!!!! Then I woke up and realized that it was tonight and my nightmare was real..

But it was fine until the last half of the 2nd half. This loss was Coach Montgomery. Pulling back an offense when it is playing well, just to go back and try and protect a lead with 6 or 7 mins left a against a good offensive team. This one you could see coming, just unreal.

(02-14-2017 11:20 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:15 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Three straight games with a chance to take control of the MAC West and three bad losses. Compounded by the fact that the MAC West is not very good. The program has taken a big step back this year and considering they weren't that great last year it says a lot about the current state of NIU hoops.

Like people said, Coach Montgomery's success at NIU was linked to this sophomore class. At least 2 of those have been complete disappointments and Coach Monty has shown he is not capable of being a coach of even a mediocre offense. Like football, we will be in limbo a few years with the contract. How sad is it when NIU football and basketball have no possibility of improvement until 2020, scary scary thought. The loss at WMU is somewhat excusable, WMU imo is an under the radar program right now, but tonight, wow, so so so so so so bad

Not to worry We'll be in FCS before that

Good point, at least while we are being led to FCS, we can still enjoy some good Roll Tide tweets from our fearless AD

Too many player unforced errors....you can't coach that kind of mistake, it is on the player

(02-14-2017 11:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:19 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  I went back in time and watched a Judson/Patton team playing tonight. It was a nightmare!!!! Then I woke up and realized that it was tonight and my nightmare was real..

But it was fine until the last half of the 2nd half. This loss was Coach Montgomery. Pulling back an offense when it is playing well, just to go back and try and protect a lead with 6 or 7 mins left a against a good offensive team. This one you could see coming, just unreal.

I really just want you to please respond with what German did the last few minutes of the game. Did you see it? Did you see him turn it over on the second to last possession and then blow his assignment and give him a wide open three? And then completely blow the last play of regulation?

"He's a freshman, he's going to make mistakes."

That's absolutely true, but it shouldn't come as a surprise to you a team playing a freshman PG had trouble closing out a game.

Monty's failure is whatever the hell happened with Wilson and Porter. He deserves endless criticism for that.

Whenever NIU loses a game in any sport it's amazing to me how it's automatically a coaching decision fault. Monty told the team to stop scoring the last 7 minutes. Carey told the team to randomly not cover anyone against Bowling Green. **** happens that is totally coaching error, but it's not bad coaching everytime the team loses.

This team is bad because they have zero back court. Highsmith and Armstead are both not very good, and German is super talented but young and does a lot of dumb ****.

Three really good players inside. Nothing at guard. That's the issue.

(02-14-2017 11:23 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  Too many player unforced errors....you can't coach that kind of mistake, it is on the player

Nah, when German turns it over and blows his assignment on defense and then completely ***** the last possession of the game that's on Monty. German was instructed to do that, clearly.

(02-14-2017 11:27 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:19 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  I went back in time and watched a Judson/Patton team playing tonight. It was a nightmare!!!! Then I woke up and realized that it was tonight and my nightmare was real..

But it was fine until the last half of the 2nd half. This loss was Coach Montgomery. Pulling back an offense when it is playing well, just to go back and try and protect a lead with 6 or 7 mins left a against a good offensive team. This one you could see coming, just unreal.

I really just want you to please respond with what German did the last few minutes of the game. Did you see it? Did you see him turn it over on the second to last possession and then blow his assignment and give him a wide open three? And then completely blow the last play of regulation?

"He's a freshman, he's going to make mistakes."

That's absolutely true, but it shouldn't come as a surprise to you a team playing a freshman PG had trouble closing out a game.

Monty's failure is whatever the hell happened with Wilson and Porter. He deserves endless criticism for that.

Whenever NIU loses a game in any sport it's amazing to me how it's automatically a coaching decision fault. Monty told the team to stop scoring the last 7 minutes. Carey told the team to randomly not cover anyone against Bowling Green. **** happens that is totally coaching error, but it's not bad coaching everytime the team loses.

This team is bad because they have zero back court. Highsmith and Armstead are both not very good, and German is super talented but young and does a lot of dumb ****.

Three really good players inside. Nothing at guard. That's the issue.

When everyone knows German is driving to the basket because NIU is on a 7 minute drought, yes, he will be ineffective. How do you not get in a situation with predictable offense, don't squander a 10 point lead by going into protect mode with 7 mins left.

(02-14-2017 11:29 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:27 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:19 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  I went back in time and watched a Judson/Patton team playing tonight. It was a nightmare!!!! Then I woke up and realized that it was tonight and my nightmare was real..

But it was fine until the last half of the 2nd half. This loss was Coach Montgomery. Pulling back an offense when it is playing well, just to go back and try and protect a lead with 6 or 7 mins left a against a good offensive team. This one you could see coming, just unreal.

I really just want you to please respond with what German did the last few minutes of the game. Did you see it? Did you see him turn it over on the second to last possession and then blow his assignment and give him a wide open three? And then completely blow the last play of regulation?

"He's a freshman, he's going to make mistakes."

That's absolutely true, but it shouldn't come as a surprise to you a team playing a freshman PG had trouble closing out a game.

Monty's failure is whatever the hell happened with Wilson and Porter. He deserves endless criticism for that.

Whenever NIU loses a game in any sport it's amazing to me how it's automatically a coaching decision fault. Monty told the team to stop scoring the last 7 minutes. Carey told the team to randomly not cover anyone against Bowling Green. **** happens that is totally coaching error, but it's not bad coaching everytime the team loses.

This team is bad because they have zero back court. Highsmith and Armstead are both not very good, and German is super talented but young and does a lot of dumb ****.

Three really good players inside. Nothing at guard. That's the issue.

When everyone knows German is driving to the basket because NIU is on a 7 minute drought, yes, he will be ineffective. How do you not get in a situation with predictable offense, don't squander a 10 point lead by going into protect mode with 7 mins left.

I can promise you, at no point in Montgomery's coaching career, has he ever drawn up the don't score for 7 minute offense. I promise you.

Lack of player development, that's what you should be mad at him for.

I knew the game was over in that 7 minute to 2 minute left stretch when Thomas got most of the minutes, you could see what was happening. That is not a slam on Thomas he is a freshman and learning, but you could see Monty was back to his old prevent/shut it down mode wayyyyyyyy too early. I called that while it was happening!