(01-30-2017 07:03 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 06:02 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 05:52 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 05:41 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 12:50 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  I'm sure the radical extremists would agree with that view.

Then we kill the combatants... eliminate an entire generation of future combatants and the breeders all in one fell swoop. War is hell. History is replete with the conquerors killing ALL the vanquished. Why? They cant ever fight them again. The Khans were famous for it. Im sorry that innocents get killed in action...but...we can not allow these terrorist to live. If it means taking out ALL of them including their families? So be it. Its not like these MOFOs care about YOU and killing innocents...Do They?

So when do we become the terrorists? You understand what killing civilians will bring right? More hatred, more terrorists, more death. You think people will be okay with foreigners killing civilians? That it was just? **** no, they're just gonna fight back harder and larger.

Not if they are DEAD. This schit of fighting a war trying to limit civilian casualties is BS when the combatants use them as shields. I submit when they realize we dont care about their families? They will stop using them as shields and face us like men. Not like the fcking cowards they are. We set up this paradigm by trying to fight nice. War does not work that way. It is horrible. Civilians die. That is the way it is. We need to leave NOW if we are going to fight with one hand tied behind our backs.

Wtf do you think pushes them more and more further into the extremes of their religion?
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obam...ld-sister/
Bullet to the neck, by a Seal Team 6 member. You think when that hits the media over there that people are thinking it was justified? **** no, they are going to feel anger, they are going to feel hatred. How did you feel on 9/11? Did you want all of them dead?

Quote:The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new President personally authorized the attack last week. They claim that the “main target” of the raid “was computer materials inside the house that could contain clues about future terrorist plots.” The paper cited a Yemeni official saying that “at least eight women and seven children, ages 3 to 13, had been killed in the raid,” and that the attack also “severely damaged a school, a health facility and a mosque.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014...-kill-1147

Quote:The drones came for Ayman Zawahiri on 13 January 2006, hovering over a village in Pakistan called Damadola. Ten months later, they came again for the man who would become al-Qaida’s leader, this time in Bajaur. Eight years later, Zawahiri is still alive. Seventy-six children and 29 adults, according to reports after the two strikes, are not.

Quote:A new analysis of the data available to the public about drone strikes, conducted by the human-rights group Reprieve, indicates that even when operators target specific individuals – the most focused effort of what Barack Obama calls “targeted killing” – they kill vastly more people than their targets, often needing to strike multiple times. Attempts to kill 41 men resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,147 people, as of 24 November.

Hey..Muzzies!...Come out and fight like men. Stop hiding behind your women and children...or prepared to bury them and suffer their deaths. YOU killed them. Don't blame others for your cowardice. THIS is what we need to say publicly.

(01-30-2017 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 07:03 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 06:02 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 05:52 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 05:41 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Then we kill the combatants... eliminate an entire generation of future combatants and the breeders all in one fell swoop. War is hell. History is replete with the conquerors killing ALL the vanquished. Why? They cant ever fight them again. The Khans were famous for it. Im sorry that innocents get killed in action...but...we can not allow these terrorist to live. If it means taking out ALL of them including their families? So be it. Its not like these MOFOs care about YOU and killing innocents...Do They?

So when do we become the terrorists? You understand what killing civilians will bring right? More hatred, more terrorists, more death. You think people will be okay with foreigners killing civilians? That it was just? **** no, they're just gonna fight back harder and larger.

Not if they are DEAD. This schit of fighting a war trying to limit civilian casualties is BS when the combatants use them as shields. I submit when they realize we dont care about their families? They will stop using them as shields and face us like men. Not like the fcking cowards they are. We set up this paradigm by trying to fight nice. War does not work that way. It is horrible. Civilians die. That is the way it is. We need to leave NOW if we are going to fight with one hand tied behind our backs.

Wtf do you think pushes them more and more further into the extremes of their religion?
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obam...ld-sister/
Bullet to the neck, by a Seal Team 6 member. You think when that hits the media over there that people are thinking it was justified? **** no, they are going to feel anger, they are going to feel hatred. How did you feel on 9/11? Did you want all of them dead?

Quote:The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new President personally authorized the attack last week. They claim that the “main target” of the raid “was computer materials inside the house that could contain clues about future terrorist plots.” The paper cited a Yemeni official saying that “at least eight women and seven children, ages 3 to 13, had been killed in the raid,” and that the attack also “severely damaged a school, a health facility and a mosque.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014...-kill-1147

Quote:The drones came for Ayman Zawahiri on 13 January 2006, hovering over a village in Pakistan called Damadola. Ten months later, they came again for the man who would become al-Qaida’s leader, this time in Bajaur. Eight years later, Zawahiri is still alive. Seventy-six children and 29 adults, according to reports after the two strikes, are not.

Quote:A new analysis of the data available to the public about drone strikes, conducted by the human-rights group Reprieve, indicates that even when operators target specific individuals – the most focused effort of what Barack Obama calls “targeted killing” – they kill vastly more people than their targets, often needing to strike multiple times. Attempts to kill 41 men resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,147 people, as of 24 November.

Hey..Muzzies!...Come out and fight like men. Stop hiding behind your women and children...or prepared to bury them and suffer their deaths. YOU killed them. Don't blame others for your cowardice. THIS is what we need to say publicly.

Yep. That is how they will see it.

(01-30-2017 08:22 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 07:03 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 06:02 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 05:52 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  So when do we become the terrorists? You understand what killing civilians will bring right? More hatred, more terrorists, more death. You think people will be okay with foreigners killing civilians? That it was just? **** no, they're just gonna fight back harder and larger.

Not if they are DEAD. This schit of fighting a war trying to limit civilian casualties is BS when the combatants use them as shields. I submit when they realize we dont care about their families? They will stop using them as shields and face us like men. Not like the fcking cowards they are. We set up this paradigm by trying to fight nice. War does not work that way. It is horrible. Civilians die. That is the way it is. We need to leave NOW if we are going to fight with one hand tied behind our backs.

Wtf do you think pushes them more and more further into the extremes of their religion?
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obam...ld-sister/
Bullet to the neck, by a Seal Team 6 member. You think when that hits the media over there that people are thinking it was justified? **** no, they are going to feel anger, they are going to feel hatred. How did you feel on 9/11? Did you want all of them dead?

Quote:The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new President personally authorized the attack last week. They claim that the “main target” of the raid “was computer materials inside the house that could contain clues about future terrorist plots.” The paper cited a Yemeni official saying that “at least eight women and seven children, ages 3 to 13, had been killed in the raid,” and that the attack also “severely damaged a school, a health facility and a mosque.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014...-kill-1147

Quote:The drones came for Ayman Zawahiri on 13 January 2006, hovering over a village in Pakistan called Damadola. Ten months later, they came again for the man who would become al-Qaida’s leader, this time in Bajaur. Eight years later, Zawahiri is still alive. Seventy-six children and 29 adults, according to reports after the two strikes, are not.

Quote:A new analysis of the data available to the public about drone strikes, conducted by the human-rights group Reprieve, indicates that even when operators target specific individuals – the most focused effort of what Barack Obama calls “targeted killing” – they kill vastly more people than their targets, often needing to strike multiple times. Attempts to kill 41 men resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,147 people, as of 24 November.

Hey..Muzzies!...Come out and fight like men. Stop hiding behind your women and children...or prepared to bury them and suffer their deaths. YOU killed them. Don't blame others for your cowardice. THIS is what we need to say publicly.

Yep. That is how they will see it.

I guess we need to go back to winning hearts and minds...ehh? Im fully in favor BTW of withdrawing EVERY American from that part of the God forsaken world and NEVER having anything EVER to do with it again. We should never have been there in the first place.

(01-30-2017 08:28 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:22 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 07:03 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 06:02 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Not if they are DEAD. This schit of fighting a war trying to limit civilian casualties is BS when the combatants use them as shields. I submit when they realize we dont care about their families? They will stop using them as shields and face us like men. Not like the fcking cowards they are. We set up this paradigm by trying to fight nice. War does not work that way. It is horrible. Civilians die. That is the way it is. We need to leave NOW if we are going to fight with one hand tied behind our backs.

Wtf do you think pushes them more and more further into the extremes of their religion?
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obam...ld-sister/
Bullet to the neck, by a Seal Team 6 member. You think when that hits the media over there that people are thinking it was justified? **** no, they are going to feel anger, they are going to feel hatred. How did you feel on 9/11? Did you want all of them dead?

Quote:The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new President personally authorized the attack last week. They claim that the “main target” of the raid “was computer materials inside the house that could contain clues about future terrorist plots.” The paper cited a Yemeni official saying that “at least eight women and seven children, ages 3 to 13, had been killed in the raid,” and that the attack also “severely damaged a school, a health facility and a mosque.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014...-kill-1147

Quote:The drones came for Ayman Zawahiri on 13 January 2006, hovering over a village in Pakistan called Damadola. Ten months later, they came again for the man who would become al-Qaida’s leader, this time in Bajaur. Eight years later, Zawahiri is still alive. Seventy-six children and 29 adults, according to reports after the two strikes, are not.

Quote:A new analysis of the data available to the public about drone strikes, conducted by the human-rights group Reprieve, indicates that even when operators target specific individuals – the most focused effort of what Barack Obama calls “targeted killing” – they kill vastly more people than their targets, often needing to strike multiple times. Attempts to kill 41 men resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,147 people, as of 24 November.

Hey..Muzzies!...Come out and fight like men. Stop hiding behind your women and children...or prepared to bury them and suffer their deaths. YOU killed them. Don't blame others for your cowardice. THIS is what we need to say publicly.

Yep. That is how they will see it.

I guess we need to go back to winning hearts and minds...ehh? Im fully in favor BTW of withdrawing EVERY American from that part of the God forsaken world and NEVER having anything EVER to do with it again. We should never have been there in the first place.

Glad we can agree on something

(01-30-2017 08:50 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:28 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:22 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 07:03 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  Wtf do you think pushes them more and more further into the extremes of their religion?
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obam...ld-sister/
Bullet to the neck, by a Seal Team 6 member. You think when that hits the media over there that people are thinking it was justified? **** no, they are going to feel anger, they are going to feel hatred. How did you feel on 9/11? Did you want all of them dead?


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014...-kill-1147

Hey..Muzzies!...Come out and fight like men. Stop hiding behind your women and children...or prepared to bury them and suffer their deaths. YOU killed them. Don't blame others for your cowardice. THIS is what we need to say publicly.

Yep. That is how they will see it.

I guess we need to go back to winning hearts and minds...ehh? Im fully in favor BTW of withdrawing EVERY American from that part of the God forsaken world and NEVER having anything EVER to do with it again. We should never have been there in the first place.

Glad we can agree on something

My view..and I don't think Im alone...Go in and DESTROY the enemy using EVERY means at your disposal and with NO remorse or hesitation. If you are not going to do that? Stay the hell out of the war business. You will LOSE every time.

War is hell. There is going to be collateral damage. Welcome to the real world.

(01-31-2017 12:35 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  War is hell. There is going to be collateral damage. Welcome to the real world.

I simply believe it's doing more harm than good. We can have different views and opinions on this.

I haven't read every post in this thread but what I have to say...I don't need much info.

To be perfectly honest I don't care if there's 1, 2 or 100 men, women, and kids killed if we are going after a just target and this is the best shot we can get . If it was my kids, I would care. If it was my neighbor's kid, I would care. If it was your kid, I would care. It's part of protecting our future and it might sound cold. but...

Being born to or around a terrorist that wants to kill each of us is their lot in life. You can bet the farm..they don't care about my child or yours. So if it's a democrat in office and he or she is acting on good info. Bomb away. If it's President Trump...bomb away. Because if it's worth the cost of the bomb then it should be worth the death of the people around the target. Of course the best outcome would be that only the bad guy got blown up. But lets be honest, the odds are in a few years some of these people around the target, will become those "bad guys". Especially if they are around them all the time.

Obama's strikes have killed thousands of civilians.

Were you bitching and complaining then?

(01-30-2017 08:28 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:22 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 07:03 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 06:02 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Not if they are DEAD. This schit of fighting a war trying to limit civilian casualties is BS when the combatants use them as shields. I submit when they realize we dont care about their families? They will stop using them as shields and face us like men. Not like the fcking cowards they are. We set up this paradigm by trying to fight nice. War does not work that way. It is horrible. Civilians die. That is the way it is. We need to leave NOW if we are going to fight with one hand tied behind our backs.

Wtf do you think pushes them more and more further into the extremes of their religion?
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obam...ld-sister/
Bullet to the neck, by a Seal Team 6 member. You think when that hits the media over there that people are thinking it was justified? **** no, they are going to feel anger, they are going to feel hatred. How did you feel on 9/11? Did you want all of them dead?

Quote:The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new President personally authorized the attack last week. They claim that the “main target” of the raid “was computer materials inside the house that could contain clues about future terrorist plots.” The paper cited a Yemeni official saying that “at least eight women and seven children, ages 3 to 13, had been killed in the raid,” and that the attack also “severely damaged a school, a health facility and a mosque.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014...-kill-1147

Quote:The drones came for Ayman Zawahiri on 13 January 2006, hovering over a village in Pakistan called Damadola. Ten months later, they came again for the man who would become al-Qaida’s leader, this time in Bajaur. Eight years later, Zawahiri is still alive. Seventy-six children and 29 adults, according to reports after the two strikes, are not.

Quote:A new analysis of the data available to the public about drone strikes, conducted by the human-rights group Reprieve, indicates that even when operators target specific individuals – the most focused effort of what Barack Obama calls “targeted killing” – they kill vastly more people than their targets, often needing to strike multiple times. Attempts to kill 41 men resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,147 people, as of 24 November.

Hey..Muzzies!...Come out and fight like men. Stop hiding behind your women and children...or prepared to bury them and suffer their deaths. YOU killed them. Don't blame others for your cowardice. THIS is what we need to say publicly.

Yep. That is how they will see it.

I guess we need to go back to winning hearts and minds...ehh? Im fully in favor BTW of withdrawing EVERY American from that part of the God forsaken world and NEVER having anything EVER to do with it again. We should never have been there in the first place.

As long as They would stay Home too, that would be fine with Me, but the Jackoffs won't do that. They want to maime and kill Westerners so you need to take those radical ones out over there.

(01-30-2017 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 12:09 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 12:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 11:59 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 11:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Trump inherited the war with ISIS from Obama. It was Obamas war.

Seems We are trying to win it now. Remember We are Not at war with Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen or any other nation. We are at war with what You would likely call Hostel Renegade Islamic Terrorists that know no borders and prey on innocents in the name of a religion They Themselves hijacked. IE, an Army of Thugs that love killing whomever is in Their way.

If we are not at war with any specific country but rather terrorist, why impose a ban on specific countries?

Because whether or not we believe it is war is irrelevant. I assure you, terrorists around the globe are using the ban as proof that we are at war with Islam.

All of those children who are being denied access to this country will consider terrorism in the future.

What Trump has done with the stroke of his pen hasn't made us safer at all but in fact has just extended our war with terror another 20 years.

Did You forget Bush said it could last a hundred years ? This is a totally different war than any before it. And Yes Terrorists can infiltrate any group of refugees thus the ban and Vetting of the refugees to weed out any potential bad guys in the mist.

But terrorists can infiltrate any group of refugees from any country. So why leave out countries like Saudi Arabia or Egypt as well.

Because for the Executive Order to be legal, it has to be an action on legislation. Congress has not designated Egypt and Saudia Arabia as state sponsors of terror.

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(01-31-2017 06:16 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 12:09 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 12:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 11:59 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Seems We are trying to win it now. Remember We are Not at war with Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen or any other nation. We are at war with what You would likely call Hostel Renegade Islamic Terrorists that know no borders and prey on innocents in the name of a religion They Themselves hijacked. IE, an Army of Thugs that love killing whomever is in Their way.

If we are not at war with any specific country but rather terrorist, why impose a ban on specific countries?

Because whether or not we believe it is war is irrelevant. I assure you, terrorists around the globe are using the ban as proof that we are at war with Islam.

All of those children who are being denied access to this country will consider terrorism in the future.

What Trump has done with the stroke of his pen hasn't made us safer at all but in fact has just extended our war with terror another 20 years.

Did You forget Bush said it could last a hundred years ? This is a totally different war than any before it. And Yes Terrorists can infiltrate any group of refugees thus the ban and Vetting of the refugees to weed out any potential bad guys in the mist.

But terrorists can infiltrate any group of refugees from any country. So why leave out countries like Saudi Arabia or Egypt as well.

Because for the Executive Order to be legal, it has to be an action on legislation. Congress has not designated Egypt and Saudia Arabia as state sponsors of terror.

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From what I have read..It is perfectly legal under US code 1182 (f). The POTUS can stop aliens at our border for any reason he sees fit.

(01-30-2017 04:26 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  So tell me Fitfail, how much did those Muzzies care when they rammed two airplanes into two skyscrapers? Did they care that there were no weapons in the building? Did they care that there were children in the building? Did they care that they were killing fellow Muslims in the building? Did they care that ALL the people in the building were innocents?

short answer: no.

I don't want children killed either but why do those bastards put their own families at risk? We are at war with them. They know that and really don't care. They would just as easily slash YOUR children's throats regardless of how much you defend them. THEY ARE ANIMALS.

Of course terrorists dont care about killing innocent people. They are terrorists. It seems you are suggesting that because they dont care neither should we.

Where does that put us. Where then is the difference between us and them?



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(01-30-2017 11:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 11:26 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  This is the fallacy of 'clean' wars that we began in the 1960s.

Dead children on the 6:00 news is the enemies biggest weapon against us. That's why they hide their bombs in schools and churches and build their bombs at home. We have military bases and our fighters wear uniforms. That's how wars USED to be waged.

So we build smart bombs and drones and have these 'surgical' strike teams, putting OUR people at greater risk so as to put fewer of THEIR people at risk. As tragic as these deaths are, they obviously would have been far worse if we had simply dropped bombs.

It's not about right and wrong to me... it is what they have made it.

This is why I don't believe in 'limited' wars. If you don't want it dead and aren't willing to accept civilian casualties, you don't call the military.

I thought they put their bombs in churches and schools so that we wouldn't destroy them. Not so they can put children on the news.

Also, how do drones put us at greater risk? They are totally unmanned.

If I had meant what you read, I would have said...
So we build smart bombs, drones and have these 'surgical' strike teams, putting OUR people at greater risk....

thus relating the three items together

Instead I said...
So we build smart bombs and drones and have these 'surgical' strike teams, putting OUR people at greater risk....

Smart bombs and drones are one 'item'... Surgical strike teams that put our people at risk are another.


I understand why you might have misread my comment... but I don't understand the need for such pedantic debate. Surgical strike teams put our people at greater risk than bombs do. I though that would be self-evident.


As to the former, again... who cares about such pedantic discussions? Did I SAY they do it so that there would be dead children on the 6pm news? No. I said that such a thing is a big weapon against us. It deters us from destroying their weapons... just as you obviously understand. The reason we won't attack them is that we don't want to kill civilians if we can help it.... and we put it on the 6:00 news when we do.

What is the point in these silly arguments?

(01-30-2017 05:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  sorry you don't like facts Fo.

Tell me. How many americans have been killed in the domestics terrorist attacks by refugees from those seven countries?

If you want facts, you might look into the FACT that every one of those countries is subject to sanctions placed on them by the US (Obama) government... and the FACT that terrorism is much more involved than simply killing people.

You might also look at the FACT that the point is to stop FUTURE terrorist acts... not past ones. In much of the rest of the world, these are the places where terrorists are coming from or through. We've all done a decent job of identifying and isolating terrorists, and we know that they are using the 'fog of war' to get away from that isolation.

(01-30-2017 05:50 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 05:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 04:42 PM)john01992 Wrote:  "How many Christians have committed terrorists killings in Europe? In America?"

A lot.

From 2002-2014 3x as many people in the US were killed by pro-life, anti govt, or white supremacist terrorists as muslim terrorists.

Here we go.

sorry you don't like facts Fo.

Tell me. How many americans have been killed in the domestics terrorist attacks by refugees from those seven countries?

The time to act is before you are dead.

(01-31-2017 01:06 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 12:35 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  War is hell. There is going to be collateral damage. Welcome to the real world.

I simply believe it's doing more harm than good. We can have different views and opinions on this.

Tend to agree....can anyone describe what our stated objective is long term with these strikes? What do we hope to ultimately accomplish? What is the goal? What would "victory" look like?

What progress has been made toward that goal? Are there milestones?

Sounds like an accounting difference to me. Obama would just drone strike a civilian target and claim everybody inside was an enemy combatant. And so the official statistics would almost never show civilian casualties.

I cannot take anybody seriously on this issue who wasn't publicly outraged at the practices of the Obama administration.

(02-06-2017 01:58 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Sounds like an accounting difference to me. Obama would just drone strike a civilian target and claim everybody inside was an enemy combatant. And so the official statistics would almost never show civilian casualties.

I cannot take anybody seriously on this issue who wasn't publicly outraged at the practices of the Obama administration.

^^This.^^ Anything else is nothing more than hypocrisy and partisanship.

(01-30-2017 10:54 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I'm not posting this because I agree or disagree with it politically.

We had a topic within a thread the other day about the case of Al-Awlaki and criticizing Obama for killing him and his 16 year old son. One of the casualties from this raid was his 8 year old daughter.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...53121.html

Little John, are you aware that this raid was planned under Obama, but took place after Trump became President because they had to wait for the correct moon to instigate the attack? Yea, didn't think you did.