(01-27-2017 09:19 AM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 07:46 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 01:22 AM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 11:19 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Navy's TV Contract is small time. Like their football program.

Enjoy it for one year because the President is removing Navy and Air Force. My signature has the details.

Remember, the Navy is a Constitutional requirement while any other military service is optional. Article 1, Section 8:

Quote:...
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;
...

Husker,

My post is a gag. So is the signature.

I knew that it was, just jabbing back at ya.

Figured. Just didn't want an understanding. Make your own tweet. Have some fun with it.

(01-26-2017 03:37 PM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 01:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 01:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 09:20 AM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 04:29 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Hard for me to imagine they will integrate the Army-Navy game that is probably worth $8 million per year itself into our contract worth $20 million total for football and basketball.

Navy doesn't really need money so they might have different thoughts.

Why doesn't Navy need money?

Unlimited government money?

OR Navy athletics uses near $0 of government funds.

The Naval Academy Athletic Association is a 501 c 3 organization, with various agreements with the Naval Academy on use of facilities etc.
Last report I saw, the $43 Million budget was about 3% government appropriated funds -- because you just can't get that to 0% with the salaries of some handful of uniformed military personnel. (E.g., defensive assitant R.B. Green is a USMC LtCol; he was ordered into a billet as football team officer representative; in the Buddy Green/Dale Pehrson transition he moved into an on-field coaching role. Another example - assistant athletic director is an active duty Navy Captain assigned to USNA. Similar ones and twos across our 33 varsity sports keeps us from getting that to 0).

Exactly.

It might also be relevant here to point out that neither Army nor the zoomies operate the same way. Army is close to Navy but still has about $12.3m in funding. The zoomies are terrible as the second highest subsidized (pronounced government funds) athletic department in the country with over $34m in government funding. (http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/) You will note that Navy is not in that list. Both Army & the zoomies are trying to work towards a model like Navy has. Army is further along, but both of them still require tax dollars.

As slhNavy91 points out, Navy athletics' only government funding is the salaries of the few active duty military supporting the teams.

Navy has the best model so far. Hopefully, Army can catch up. Our administration is finally figuring out that having good football is a plus.

(01-27-2017 12:43 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Navy has the best model so far. Hopefully, Army can catch up. Our administration is finally figuring out that having good football is a plus.

That is a huge point. Casual football fans generally don't appreciate what major football can do for a school. Obviously there is money, but there is a lot more to it than that.

Spectator sports also serve as a marketing tool for the institution commonly referred to as the Flutie Effect. The service academy (to be charitable I'll include the zoomies in this group as well) sports teams provide an additional benefit as a marketing tool for the respective general services as well since most casual fans don't appreciate or understand the differences between USNA and the Navy or USMA and the Army.

Navy's football program is able to fund all of the NCAA programs at Navy and athletics supports USNA Mission "To develop midshipmen morally, mentally, and physically, ..." so it becomes a win-win.

Navy decided in the early 2000s that having a successful football program was about much more than bragging rights for the alumni. They made the commitment to having a successful program which has benefited USNA & the Navy tremendously. We have continued with that mindset having realized the return on the investment.

(01-27-2017 02:07 PM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 12:43 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Navy has the best model so far. Hopefully, Army can catch up. Our administration is finally figuring out that having good football is a plus.

That is a huge point. Casual football fans generally don't appreciate what major football can do for a school. Obviously there is money, but there is a lot more to it than that.

Spectator sports also serve as a marketing tool for the institution commonly referred to as the Flutie Effect. The service academy (to be charitable I'll include the zoomies in this group as well) sports teams provide an additional benefit as a marketing tool for the respective general services as well since most casual fans don't appreciate or understand the differences between USNA and the Navy or USMA and the Army.

Navy's football program is able to fund all of the NCAA programs at Navy and athletics supports USNA Mission "To develop midshipmen morally, mentally, and physically, ..." so it becomes a win-win.

Navy decided in the early 2000s that having a successful football program was about much more than bragging rights for the alumni. They made the commitment to having a successful program which has benefited USNA & the Navy tremendously. We have continued with that mindset having realized the return on the investment.

That is generous including the AFA. They historically own the commander in chief trophy over army and navy.

(01-27-2017 10:58 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 02:07 PM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 12:43 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Navy has the best model so far. Hopefully, Army can catch up. Our administration is finally figuring out that having good football is a plus.

That is a huge point. Casual football fans generally don't appreciate what major football can do for a school. Obviously there is money, but there is a lot more to it than that.

Spectator sports also serve as a marketing tool for the institution commonly referred to as the Flutie Effect. The service academy (to be charitable I'll include the zoomies in this group as well) sports teams provide an additional benefit as a marketing tool for the respective general services as well since most casual fans don't appreciate or understand the differences between USNA and the Navy or USMA and the Army.

Navy's football program is able to fund all of the NCAA programs at Navy and athletics supports USNA Mission "To develop midshipmen morally, mentally, and physically, ..." so it becomes a win-win.

Navy decided in the early 2000s that having a successful football program was about much more than bragging rights for the alumni. They made the commitment to having a successful program which has benefited USNA & the Navy tremendously. We have continued with that mindset having realized the return on the investment.

That is generous including the AFA. They historically own the commander in chief trophy over army and navy.

Navy 10 of the last 14.
The joke is a good natured dig at the country club stereotype of USAFA and the Air Force.

(01-27-2017 11:56 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 10:58 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 02:07 PM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 12:43 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Navy has the best model so far. Hopefully, Army can catch up. Our administration is finally figuring out that having good football is a plus.

That is a huge point. Casual football fans generally don't appreciate what major football can do for a school. Obviously there is money, but there is a lot more to it than that.

Spectator sports also serve as a marketing tool for the institution commonly referred to as the Flutie Effect. The service academy (to be charitable I'll include the zoomies in this group as well) sports teams provide an additional benefit as a marketing tool for the respective general services as well since most casual fans don't appreciate or understand the differences between USNA and the Navy or USMA and the Army.

Navy's football program is able to fund all of the NCAA programs at Navy and athletics supports USNA Mission "To develop midshipmen morally, mentally, and physically, ..." so it becomes a win-win.

Navy decided in the early 2000s that having a successful football program was about much more than bragging rights for the alumni. They made the commitment to having a successful program which has benefited USNA & the Navy tremendously. We have continued with that mindset having realized the return on the investment.

That is generous including the AFA. They historically own the commander in chief trophy over army and navy.

Navy 10 of the last 14.
The joke is a good natured dig at the country club stereotype of USAFA and the Air Force.

Ah my bad. And mighty fine run y'all have going on.

(01-28-2017 01:02 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 11:56 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 10:58 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 02:07 PM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 12:43 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Navy has the best model so far. Hopefully, Army can catch up. Our administration is finally figuring out that having good football is a plus.

That is a huge point. Casual football fans generally don't appreciate what major football can do for a school. Obviously there is money, but there is a lot more to it than that.

Spectator sports also serve as a marketing tool for the institution commonly referred to as the Flutie Effect. The service academy (to be charitable I'll include the zoomies in this group as well) sports teams provide an additional benefit as a marketing tool for the respective general services as well since most casual fans don't appreciate or understand the differences between USNA and the Navy or USMA and the Army.

Navy's football program is able to fund all of the NCAA programs at Navy and athletics supports USNA Mission "To develop midshipmen morally, mentally, and physically, ..." so it becomes a win-win.

Navy decided in the early 2000s that having a successful football program was about much more than bragging rights for the alumni. They made the commitment to having a successful program which has benefited USNA & the Navy tremendously. We have continued with that mindset having realized the return on the investment.

That is generous including the AFA. They historically own the commander in chief trophy over army and navy.

Navy 10 of the last 14.
The joke is a good natured dig at the country club stereotype of USAFA and the Air Force.

Ah my bad. And mighty fine run y'all have going on.

Yes, what slhNavy91 said. Another one of my favorites is:
Did you know that there are only 2 armed forces? The Army & the Navy. Because the Air Force is a corporation, and the Marine Corps is a religion.