(01-12-2017 07:52 AM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 11:05 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:17 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:01 PM)jmu-fan-1981 Wrote:  The hotels aren't as big an issue as the tickets... Hotels will be plentiful within a commutes distance. Tickets will not become available if their team gets to the championship game.

I'd say be ready come August to buy tickets

True on hotels, beat me to it.

I'd say be ready come Aug to buy tickets only if you're not Duke Club or are low Duke Club, or want to buy more than your Duke Club standing allows. Medium to high Duke Club standing shouldn't be an issue...

How does one find out their rank based on priority points? I don't think it's on our profile anymore.

Go to your "My Account" page and it should be there near the top as "Customer Priority Points."

Yeah but that doesn't say out of how many - or who has the most. Anyone have an idea what a range is?

JMU's total viewship 3.136 million
Quarters: SHSU - 509K viewers
Semis: @ NDSU - 1.065M viewers
NC game vs YSU: 1.562m viewers
JMU's total postseason viewership of 3.136 million tops by my count 24 of 40 bowls.
If just going by the NC game tops 8 bowls, 6 of whom were on ESPN, including App/EWU and ODU/E Mich. (1.371 million) and App Toldeo (1.483 million)
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-...v-ratings/

Come on now. As much as I'd love to say 3.136M people watched JMU there is no metric for unique eyeballs. Not apples to apples at all. A lot of those viewers were repeat viewers week after week.

(01-12-2017 01:23 PM)Dukes1825 Wrote:  Come on now. As much as I'd love to say 3.136M people watched JMU there is no metric for unique eyeballs. Not apples to apples at all. A lot of those viewers were repeat viewers week after week.

Kind of like our fellow Americans voting more than once. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

(01-12-2017 12:33 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  JMU's total viewship 3.136 million
Quarters: SHSU - 509K viewers
Semis: @ NDSU - 1.065M viewers
NC game vs YSU: 1.562m viewers
JMU's total postseason viewership of 3.136 million tops by my count 24 of 40 bowls.
If just going by the NC game tops 7 bowls, 6 of whom were on ESPN, including App/EWU and ODU/E Mich. (1.371 million) and App Toldeo (1.483 million)
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-...v-ratings/

Do ODU and App State get to count their top most viewed games this season now too?

Come on, we're better than that. We don't need to combine three games to one low level FCS bowl to validate ourselves. It makes us look minor league. Especially since there is no telling how many of those 3 million viewers were unique.

Our national championship game legitimately beat out 4 CUSA bowl games and 8 overall despite being on ESPN2, at a crappy time, when most people are thinking NFL playoffs vs. College Football and we still had a great TV rating. Those numbers can speak for themselves and don't need unnecessary fluffing.

(01-12-2017 01:44 PM)JMU83 Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 01:23 PM)Dukes1825 Wrote:  Come on now. As much as I'd love to say 3.136M people watched JMU there is no metric for unique eyeballs. Not apples to apples at all. A lot of those viewers were repeat viewers week after week.

Kind of like our fellow Americans voting more than once. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

We need an interjection of humor every now and again, thanks.

(01-11-2017 09:32 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 01:44 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 11:46 PM)White Hall Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:46 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:11 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  But if JMU and NDSU don't make it (chance that happens) then you'd be f*cked. Would likely be eating what you spent on those tickets.

Montana too, but yeah, that's the risk in the situation. Any other Fcs programs in it and you'd have to at minimum sell well below face value and probably eat the tickets even.

Othe flip side, how expensive could tickets really get if it turns out to be NDSU v. JMU next year? $100? $150? I can't imagine much higher. It certainly won't be anywhere near the $2k people were supposedly paying for Bama Clemson.

During the peak, some tickets went for more than $150 this year. There were seat listings at $1000+ though I'm skeptical any sold that high.

The real issue next year if its NDSU v JMU is that seats outside our 4k block won't be available period. The Bison buy every single one 5 minutes after they go on sale (which also frustrates local neutral Frisco fans). In a JMU v NDSU game, it will be 75% Bison unless a ton of JMU fans surprise me and buy tix in August. I plan to do that, not because I wouldn't get them from JMU, but because I don't want to see us in YSU's position next year fan wise.

Also, what I expect would happen in this scenario is a lot of DC members would get tickets, but less than they want (eg: limit of 2 or 4 seats). We were very lucky with the ticket allocation this year, and I doubt it would play out again that way.

NC game listed attendance in Frisco, with who NDSU faced each game:
2011 (SHSU) 20,586
2012 (SHSU) 21,411
2013 (TU) 19,802
2014 (ILSU) 20,918
2015 (JSU) 21,836
2016 14,423

Stated capacity past years 20.5k, and in 4 of those 5 seasons the attendance has exceeded that. If 4k tickets are available for each team, that still leaves around 13k tickets to be sold. So this rumor of NDSU fans buying up all the remaining tickets in Aug doesn't add up. No way in hell are 13k tickets going in 5 min. Either only a fraction of those tickets are being made available in Aug, or its a hell of a lot longer period than 5 min.

I understand the first year many were purchased during the playoffs. SHSU had a decent turnout that year as well and won the Friday night game so they had a head start. The following years I don't believe they were all released in August. I believe some were released later in the Fall including SRO tickets. I never heard of SRO tickets going on sale this year.

There was a stretch in there where people could buy a 3-year year package and I assume there were several of those purchased by Bison fans. That made fewer available in years 2 and 3.

There are also some tickets allotted from the NCAA to employees and administrators and the host committee also has an allotment. I doubt those are a huge number, but it would reduce the number available for public sale as well.

It's very possible the remaining were all sold in a short period of time though. With online ordering everyone is in line at the same time so as long as the system can handle multiple requests it wouldn't take long if the demand is there.

(01-12-2017 02:55 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 12:33 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  JMU's total viewship 3.136 million
Quarters: SHSU - 509K viewers
Semis: @ NDSU - 1.065M viewers
NC game vs YSU: 1.562m viewers
JMU's total postseason viewership of 3.136 million tops by my count 24 of 40 bowls.
If just going by the NC game tops 7 bowls, 6 of whom were on ESPN, including App/EWU and ODU/E Mich. (1.371 million) and App Toldeo (1.483 million)
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-...v-ratings/

Do ODU and App State get to count their top most viewed games this season now too?

Come on, we're better than that. We don't need to combine three games to one low level FCS bowl to validate ourselves. It makes us look minor league. Especially since there is no telling how many of those 3 million viewers were unique.

Our national championship game legitimately beat out 4 CUSA bowl games and 8 overall despite being on ESPN2, at a crappy time, when most people are thinking NFL playoffs vs. College Football and we still had a great TV rating. Those numbers can speak for themselves and don't need unnecessary fluffing.

Not trying to be a wise guy- but are the folks that talk about unique eye balls in the TV media or advertising business? I've never heard that TV executives or advertisers are concerned with unique eye balls. Of course for any program there are going to be people that watch each week. Is that a bad thing?

I think the grouping of FCS playoff TV appearances/ratings vs. FBS post season (conference championship and Bowl) is pretty relevant and apples to apples. The debate is about which one is best for JMU and one of the reasons made for FBS has been the higher level of exposure which really isn't about early season games but about post season.

The unique eye balls thing is a wacky way to discredit the fact that JMU had significantly higher ratings in their run for a title than most FBS G5 Mid Major programs did. If we never hear the made up term unique eye balls again we will all be better off.

(01-12-2017 11:29 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 07:52 AM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 11:05 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:17 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:01 PM)jmu-fan-1981 Wrote:  The hotels aren't as big an issue as the tickets... Hotels will be plentiful within a commutes distance. Tickets will not become available if their team gets to the championship game.

I'd say be ready come August to buy tickets

True on hotels, beat me to it.

I'd say be ready come Aug to buy tickets only if you're not Duke Club or are low Duke Club, or want to buy more than your Duke Club standing allows. Medium to high Duke Club standing shouldn't be an issue...

How does one find out their rank based on priority points? I don't think it's on our profile anymore.

Go to your "My Account" page and it should be there near the top as "Customer Priority Points."

Yeah but that doesn't say out of how many - or who has the most. Anyone have an idea what a range is?

I guess it would be better to call the Duke Club and ask.

(01-12-2017 05:37 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 02:55 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 12:33 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  JMU's total viewship 3.136 million
Quarters: SHSU - 509K viewers
Semis: @ NDSU - 1.065M viewers
NC game vs YSU: 1.562m viewers
JMU's total postseason viewership of 3.136 million tops by my count 24 of 40 bowls.
If just going by the NC game tops 7 bowls, 6 of whom were on ESPN, including App/EWU and ODU/E Mich. (1.371 million) and App Toldeo (1.483 million)
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-...v-ratings/

Do ODU and App State get to count their top most viewed games this season now too?

Come on, we're better than that. We don't need to combine three games to one low level FCS bowl to validate ourselves. It makes us look minor league. Especially since there is no telling how many of those 3 million viewers were unique.

Our national championship game legitimately beat out 4 CUSA bowl games and 8 overall despite being on ESPN2, at a crappy time, when most people are thinking NFL playoffs vs. College Football and we still had a great TV rating. Those numbers can speak for themselves and don't need unnecessary fluffing.

Not trying to be a wise guy- but are the folks that talk about unique eye balls in the TV media or advertising business? I've never heard that TV executives or advertisers are concerned with unique eye balls. Of course for any program there are going to be people that watch each week. Is that a bad thing?

I think the grouping of FCS playoff TV appearances/ratings vs. FBS post season (conference championship and Bowl) is pretty relevant and apples to apples. The debate is about which one is best for JMU and one of the reasons made for FBS has been the higher level of exposure which really isn't about early season games but about post season.

The unique eye balls thing is a wacky way to discredit the fact that JMU had significantly higher ratings in their run for a title than most FBS G5 Mid Major programs did. If we never hear the made up term unique eye balls again we will all be better off.

There's logic on both sides of your arguments. Being on an ESPN network 3 different times is still better than once. The rough numbers for unique views are hard to quantify - but who cares. There were well over 1M for the championship game that you guys owned.

The only point both of you are missing is how easy it is to get the view in a bowl game. We only had to win 6 games, in a crappy conference, we played an off-name Michigan school out of the country. A lot of people say we aren't good. Our crappy fast food bowl game still yielded over 1M viewers.

Your FCS playoffs was awesome, and congrats for winning, I was rooting for you guys the entire way. But that is really hard to replicate every year. When was the last time you did it? It's a lot harder to replicate that than getting 6 wins in the season in our conference.