That's kinda where my heads at. And I think it's the wise move. It's our first bowl. You take it! And the kids are loving going to the Bahamas. The matchup isn't "sexy" but it's a evenly matched squad based on stats. Both improved and some history as we just did a h and h with them. We're the only bowl on tv that day. All in all I'm good with it. It's a good story too. First bowl in ages for them and our first bowl ever.

(11-30-2016 10:33 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  That's kinda where my heads at. And I think it's the wise move. It's our first bowl. You take it! And the kids are loving going to the Bahamas. The matchup isn't "sexy" but it's a evenly matched squad based on stats. Both improved and some history as we just did a h and h with them. We're the only bowl on tv that day. All in all I'm good with it. It's a good story too. First bowl in ages for them and our first bowl ever.

Will be the first ODU game I've watched since the second game of the season. Look forward to seeing progress as that was one ugly performance (I'm convinced it's a matter of one coaching staff being superior to the other based on ODU's results the rest of the way.)

That's the thing. You claim to only speak truth, when in fact, you're at 75% on a good day.
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Hell 75% is probably 50% better than anything else on this board. But just for laughs quote me one post I made that wasn't the truth?
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You lose all credibility with statements like that. Simply pathetic!

(11-30-2016 10:36 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 10:33 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  That's kinda where my heads at. And I think it's the wise move. It's our first bowl. You take it! And the kids are loving going to the Bahamas. The matchup isn't "sexy" but it's a evenly matched squad based on stats. Both improved and some history as we just did a h and h with them. We're the only bowl on tv that day. All in all I'm good with it. It's a good story too. First bowl in ages for them and our first bowl ever.

Will be the first ODU game I've watched since the second game of the season. Look forward to seeing progress as that was one ugly performance (I'm convinced it's a matter of one coaching staff being superior to the other based on ODU's results the rest of the way.)

Thanks. I think it's growing pains. We saw a huge growth this year in our offensive game plans. By the end of the season we were seeing 2 different teams from 1st to 2nd half and the FIU game was a good example. We saw an entirely different scheme and we saw the FIU coaches literally drawing on boards trying to adjust to what we came out doing. I was pleasantly surprised so I think (hope) you'll see a different team. Our OLine was really young and replaced a lot of talent. It's taken them a season to gel. Next season is bright for our lines.

(11-30-2016 10:32 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 10:08 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 09:14 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 03:08 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm not sure how CUSA does it, but most SBC fans will telll you that there is no particular order to who goes where and when.

For us it's very simple.. for our contracted bowls:

1) The conference champ has first choice as to where they want to play
2) the Conference champ game loser has second choice.

Then the remaining teams select which bowl they want to go to by order of their conference (and then overall record).

The universities already have a list of what bowls they would prefer to go to. (It's kind of why our last season under Fedora you had so many pissed off fans, because USM (Fedora) _chose_ the Hawaii bowl that year.)

That's why ODU took the Bahamas bowl, because both WKU and La Tech have both said we want.. "X or y".

ODU got the next choice with their record, so they picked ... Bahamas.

Which tells me that WKU has already said we want to go to "Boca" and La Tech has already said "HOD".

I think MTSU gets the next choice (Hawaii)
Then UTSA (New Mexico? You'd think they' might take New Orleans?)
Then USM gets whatever's left (New Orleans?)

And then if UNT is needed at 5-7, they round out the teams with whatever the final option is.

Unless a bowl says "we really want team "x"".. (say if NO wanted USM), then the league "recommends' that UTSA take the NM bowl.

According to a recent statement from the commissioner, it doesn't quite work like that. I used to think it did, but apparently no one gets to pick, necessarily. C-USA will do everything it can to ensure the conference champ gets the bowl they want, but it's not officially promised. After that, they work with the bowls and schools to create the best match-ups. They talk to the schools and bowls constantly to see where everyone stands. All 7-5 or better teams get slotted first, and then 6-6 teams fill in what's left.

The Bahamas Bowl has already set its match-up probably because of the international aspect. They wanted maximum prep time for the teams and fans. I'm assuming neither Tech nor WKU wanted it, so they extended an invite to ODU, who I'm sure was thinking 'just give us a bowl wherever we can get it.'

The Bahamas is hardly international. (Birth certificate and ID and you are good) To the point of competitive match-ups; the way USM has played as of late, they should feel lucky to even be going bowling, much less thinking they are too good for New Orleans.

I'm pretty sure that's only the case if you arrive by cruise. If you fly in you need a passport

(11-30-2016 10:32 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  To the point of competitive match-ups; the way USM has played as of late, they should feel lucky to even be going bowling, much less thinking they are too good for New Orleans.

I agree. I think some of our fans have just been too many times, as they always want us if we aren't in the Champ Game. I'm beyond relieved we get a shot at a winning season.

(11-30-2016 03:49 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 03:08 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 01:38 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 09:04 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 08:07 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  ULM is relatively bad this year. Most games i've watched of other Sun Belt teams have been when playing App and that hasn't been a great indicator of where teams stack up. ULL finally put together a full game last weekend and their athleticism showed through. If the same thing happens this weekend they should dispatch ULM with ease. Their issue however is with coaching and motivation. He doesn't seem to be great at focusing his team.

Very bad ULM teams have beaten really good ULL teams in the past. Its a weird series

#RivalryGames

People that have paid attention more than me, I have a question.

ULL is clearly the New Orleans Bowl's love affair, but would the New Orleans Bowl pick a 6-6 ULL over a 10-2/SBC Co-champ Troy (assuming Troy wins their last game)? As well as a 9-3/SBC Co-champ App State? I think (esp if Troy reaches 10-2) that it comes down to Troy and ULL. But if USM is the C-USA team (I think they will be) that would mean a Troy-USM rematch, so maybe they go with ULL? I just don't like a 6-6 team getting picked over a 10-2 Troy or 9-3 App, but is that likely?

Sun Belt bowl situation is tricky: Troy and Southern Miss already played this year, NOLA won't take a rematch. They have first pick, but have taken the champ only 3 times since 2010. Mobile has first pick out of the MAC, so Troy is really pushing to go there instead for the better matchup. If ULL wins, they'll go NOLA for attendance reasons only. If the Cajuns lose to ULM, NOLA will choose between AState and App for that spot. I know the Cure Bowl really wants App State, so a lot here depeds on whether App wants to play a 6-6 USM, or a 6 or 7 win AAC team in Orlando.

I'm not sure how CUSA does it, but most SBC fans will telll you that there is no particular order to who goes where and when. Mobile, Montgomery, and Orlando all usually work together to make sure each game has the matchup they want, while Nola sort of does their own thing. League has input, but does not make final call

I can tell you that one difference between how C-USA and the SBC do it is that in our conference, 7-5 teams must be placed in a bowl before 6-6 teams are. I can think back to 2014 when 7-5 Texas State got passed over for the Camellia Bowl for 6-6 South Alabama since it's played in Montgomery, Alabama. I can kinda understand how they made that choice because ticket sales were surely better for an in-state team just 2 1/2 hours away, but it was hardly fair to Texas State.

Texas State was a long-time rival with us in the Southland Conference, before UTSA had a football program, and I never thought I'd find myself feeling bad for them, but I actually kinda did, just slightly. South Alabama ended up losing 33-28 to Bowling Green on a 78-yard TD pass with a minute left in the game, and USA also had 4 turnovers, so one could say that was a bit of karma at work there.

Bowl autonomy is a lot of the reason the SBC has so many regional bowls though. Three of our bowl games are within a reasonable driving distance of almost every single SBC campus not named NMSU or Idaho. Part of the reason the league managed to get Mobile away from CUSA about 8 years ago was the fact that we let them choose who they want. When they were in CUSA, they had a top pick, but most of the top teams didn't want to play there, and CUSA didn't force them.

I have no issues with bowl autonomy right now in the SBC as long as we continue to have a bunch of games that our fans all want to go to. App fans can get mad that New Orleans will take a 6-6 over them, but in the end they'll always have Orlando, where a lot of their fans want to go anyway since its against an AAC.

I think we rotate into Bahamas for a year next year, and that will be a real test of how the conference handles that since it's pretty clear from reading our boards that no one wants to get stuck there.

(11-30-2016 10:36 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  That's the thing. You claim to only speak truth, when in fact, you're at 75% on a good day.

Quote:Hell 75% is probably 50% better than anything else on this board. But just for laughs quote me one post I made that wasn't the truth?

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Quote:You lose all credibility with statements like that. Simply pathetic!

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I'm far past the age where I need or look for approval or credibility from others. But you still never answered the question.

Find one of my post that wasn't truthful. Shouldn't be hard, right? You might as well go ahead and try because from today till you do, everytime I read a post by you I will ask you the same question.

If Cajuns win they will be there against USM...If Cajuns lose USM will face App State.

Bowls hate rematches typically so Troy will be in Mobile.

(11-30-2016 01:38 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 09:04 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 08:07 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 09:42 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 08:36 PM)winston70 Wrote:  USM should beat ULL and bowl game should have a really good crowd. I didn't even think ULL had a chance to get to 6 W's after the way they started the year

I think ULM at home can beat ULL this weekend.

ULM is relatively bad this year. Most games i've watched of other Sun Belt teams have been when playing App and that hasn't been a great indicator of where teams stack up. ULL finally put together a full game last weekend and their athleticism showed through. If the same thing happens this weekend they should dispatch ULM with ease. Their issue however is with coaching and motivation. He doesn't seem to be great at focusing his team.

Very bad ULM teams have beaten really good ULL teams in the past. Its a weird series

#RivalryGames

People that have paid attention more than me, I have a question.

ULL is clearly the New Orleans Bowl's love affair, but would the New Orleans Bowl pick a 6-6 ULL over a 10-2/SBC Co-champ Troy (assuming Troy wins their last game)? As well as a 9-3/SBC Co-champ App State? I think (esp if Troy reaches 10-2) that it comes down to Troy and ULL. But if USM is the C-USA team (I think they will be) that would mean a Troy-USM rematch, so maybe they go with ULL? I just don't like a 6-6 team getting picked over a 10-2 Troy or 9-3 App, but is that likely?

Nothing against USM at all because I really like their program...But TROY fans would be dissapointed with this matchup. We already played and Beat them. We are likely going to be 10-2 and a 6-6 USM who we already beaten is not exciting.

Plus Bowls typically stay away from rematches.

(11-30-2016 02:12 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 01:38 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 09:04 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 08:07 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 09:42 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  I think ULM at home can beat ULL this weekend.

ULM is relatively bad this year. Most games i've watched of other Sun Belt teams have been when playing App and that hasn't been a great indicator of where teams stack up. ULL finally put together a full game last weekend and their athleticism showed through. If the same thing happens this weekend they should dispatch ULM with ease. Their issue however is with coaching and motivation. He doesn't seem to be great at focusing his team.

Very bad ULM teams have beaten really good ULL teams in the past. Its a weird series

#RivalryGames

People that have paid attention more than me, I have a question.

ULL is clearly the New Orleans Bowl's love affair, but would the New Orleans Bowl pick a 6-6 ULL over a 10-2/SBC Co-champ Troy (assuming Troy wins their last game)? As well as a 9-3/SBC Co-champ App State? I think (esp if Troy reaches 10-2) that it comes down to Troy and ULL. But if USM is the C-USA team (I think they will be) that would mean a Troy-USM rematch, so maybe they go with ULL? I just don't like a 6-6 team getting picked over a 10-2 Troy or 9-3 App, but is that likely?

Nothing against USM at all because I really like their program...But TROY fans would be dissapointed with this matchup. We already played and Beat them. We are likely going to be 10-2 and a 6-6 USM who we already beaten is not exciting.

Plus Bowls typically stay away from rematches.

I would love to play them again, esp in a bowl game. Troy vs Southern Miss always gets me excited!

(11-30-2016 03:38 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 02:12 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 01:38 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 09:04 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 08:07 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  ULM is relatively bad this year. Most games i've watched of other Sun Belt teams have been when playing App and that hasn't been a great indicator of where teams stack up. ULL finally put together a full game last weekend and their athleticism showed through. If the same thing happens this weekend they should dispatch ULM with ease. Their issue however is with coaching and motivation. He doesn't seem to be great at focusing his team.

Very bad ULM teams have beaten really good ULL teams in the past. Its a weird series

#RivalryGames

People that have paid attention more than me, I have a question.

ULL is clearly the New Orleans Bowl's love affair, but would the New Orleans Bowl pick a 6-6 ULL over a 10-2/SBC Co-champ Troy (assuming Troy wins their last game)? As well as a 9-3/SBC Co-champ App State? I think (esp if Troy reaches 10-2) that it comes down to Troy and ULL. But if USM is the C-USA team (I think they will be) that would mean a Troy-USM rematch, so maybe they go with ULL? I just don't like a 6-6 team getting picked over a 10-2 Troy or 9-3 App, but is that likely?

Nothing against USM at all because I really like their program...But TROY fans would be dissapointed with this matchup. We already played and Beat them. We are likely going to be 10-2 and a 6-6 USM who we already beaten is not exciting.

Plus Bowls typically stay away from rematches.

I would love to play them again, esp in a bowl game. Troy vs Southern Miss always gets me excited!

It would be a lose-lose for Troy to play USM again. Beating us twice gains nothing, but losing to us when you are 10-2 and we are 6-6 only would devalue the first win. And, USM would win the rematch:)

(11-30-2016 05:25 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 03:38 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 02:12 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 01:38 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 09:04 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Very bad ULM teams have beaten really good ULL teams in the past. Its a weird series

#RivalryGames

People that have paid attention more than me, I have a question.

ULL is clearly the New Orleans Bowl's love affair, but would the New Orleans Bowl pick a 6-6 ULL over a 10-2/SBC Co-champ Troy (assuming Troy wins their last game)? As well as a 9-3/SBC Co-champ App State? I think (esp if Troy reaches 10-2) that it comes down to Troy and ULL. But if USM is the C-USA team (I think they will be) that would mean a Troy-USM rematch, so maybe they go with ULL? I just don't like a 6-6 team getting picked over a 10-2 Troy or 9-3 App, but is that likely?

Nothing against USM at all because I really like their program...But TROY fans would be dissapointed with this matchup. We already played and Beat them. We are likely going to be 10-2 and a 6-6 USM who we already beaten is not exciting.

Plus Bowls typically stay away from rematches.

I would love to play them again, esp in a bowl game. Troy vs Southern Miss always gets me excited!

It would be a lose-lose for Troy to play USM again. Beating us twice gains nothing, but losing to us when you are 10-2 and we are 6-6 only would devalue the first win. And, USM would win the rematch:)

Bowls hate rematches, and generally avoid them like the plague.

If the Cajuns lose, all bets are off on the Sun Belt side, but my guess would be Arkansas State would go to New Orleans. App seems happy with Orlando, and they won't rematch Troy and USM. AState fans want Mongtomery since its the one SBC Bowl we haven't been to yet, but we'd take a chance to play Southern Miss again if it came.

And assuming ULM just gives in to the Cajuns is dangerous. That series is always close, and a ULM win gives them at outside shot at a bowl at 5-7 since they are 5th in APR and Texas isn't going to take a bowl. They'd need USA to lose to likely guarantee a spot though.

(11-30-2016 11:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 05:25 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 03:38 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 02:12 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 01:38 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  #RivalryGames

People that have paid attention more than me, I have a question.

ULL is clearly the New Orleans Bowl's love affair, but would the New Orleans Bowl pick a 6-6 ULL over a 10-2/SBC Co-champ Troy (assuming Troy wins their last game)? As well as a 9-3/SBC Co-champ App State? I think (esp if Troy reaches 10-2) that it comes down to Troy and ULL. But if USM is the C-USA team (I think they will be) that would mean a Troy-USM rematch, so maybe they go with ULL? I just don't like a 6-6 team getting picked over a 10-2 Troy or 9-3 App, but is that likely?

Nothing against USM at all because I really like their program...But TROY fans would be dissapointed with this matchup. We already played and Beat them. We are likely going to be 10-2 and a 6-6 USM who we already beaten is not exciting.

Plus Bowls typically stay away from rematches.

I would love to play them again, esp in a bowl game. Troy vs Southern Miss always gets me excited!

It would be a lose-lose for Troy to play USM again. Beating us twice gains nothing, but losing to us when you are 10-2 and we are 6-6 only would devalue the first win. And, USM would win the rematch:)

Bowls hate rematches, and generally avoid them like the plague.

If the Cajuns lose, all bets are off on the Sun Belt side, but my guess would be Arkansas State would go to New Orleans. App seems happy with Orlando, and they won't rematch Troy and USM. AState fans want Mongtomery since its the one SBC Bowl we haven't been to yet, but we'd take a chance to play Southern Miss again if it came.

And assuming ULM just gives in to the Cajuns is dangerous. That series is always close, and a ULM win gives them at outside shot at a bowl at 5-7 since they are 5th in APR and Texas isn't going to take a bowl. They'd need USA to lose to likely guarantee a spot though.

It's funny how all of these schools goes from APR probation or close to it then to the top in the matter of a couple years.

Wasn't ULM on probation or close to it before or right after Western was kicked out of the SBC? There was a couple other schools like that last year.