There will be a 4pm CT (5pm ET) press conference tomorrow confirming this.

@dealjon: UNA has called a 4 p.m. press conference tomorrow for "athletic classification". Expected to announce move to D-I.

(12-02-2016 12:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Sorta - they claim they don't give schollies, but the truth is they do.

The Ivy League don't give athletic scholarships.

However, they do give scholarships to almost everyone they admit based on need. Not very much to some, a lot to others.

The bulk of that goes to high academic achievers, because below a certain level, most admissions are from families that won't need much, if any, scholarship assistance ...
... but if you get admitted because you were recruited to play sports and meet the minimum academic standards to get in, you get to benefit from the same scholarship support as all of the other students.

So it's an "athletic admission", and then the scholarship flows as it would do for any student admitted for whatever reason.

(12-02-2016 04:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 12:15 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You include almost every RMAC school in all of your posts. Which RMAC school has discussed moving to D1?

(11-30-2016 05:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 02:44 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 07:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  It is something I posted a few weeks ago that expect and invite to the ASun for North Alabama and football for the Big South.

And no, we do not have enough D1 football right now. D2 is overflowing with football schools right now with Davenport moving up from NAIA. Other NAIA schools could be applying in the future for D2 that have football. People sandblasted me for saying that North Alabama would get an invite. Now look at who have to eat crow.

http://www.timesdaily.com/sports/una_spo...5796f.html

Article from a couple of days ago.

You don't get blasted for talking about UNA moving up, which has been rumored and discussed for years. You get blasted for including half of D2 and large swaths of D3 and NAIA when anything resembling D1 expansion comes up.

No. It is rumors and talks about these schools. A lot of schools hinted that they are looking into upgrading to D1. They are possible targets for realignment talks. What is this section called? Realignment is part of the discussion.

The 4 schools rumored are Metro State, Colorado Mesa (that was when they changed their name from Mesa State), Colorado Mines and Colorado State-Pueblo. Colorado Mines could go to the Big Sky with their formal rivals. Colorado Mesa, Metro State and Colorado State-Pueblo are possible targets for the WAC to replace Denver.

I am an alumnus of what is now CSU-Pueblo, and still have ties to Colorado. There are NO rumors about any of those schools moving to D1. NONE!

Hey, maybe Mines can move to the MWC and rejoin CSU and Wyoming. Or, maybe they could go to the PAC and rejoin Colorado and Utah.

While it won't happen, if CSU-Pueblo and Colorado Mesa were to go to the WAC, where would they play football?

(12-06-2016 01:19 AM)lew240z Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 04:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 12:15 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You include almost every RMAC school in all of your posts. Which RMAC school has discussed moving to D1?

(11-30-2016 05:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 02:44 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  You don't get blasted for talking about UNA moving up, which has been rumored and discussed for years. You get blasted for including half of D2 and large swaths of D3 and NAIA when anything resembling D1 expansion comes up.

No. It is rumors and talks about these schools. A lot of schools hinted that they are looking into upgrading to D1. They are possible targets for realignment talks. What is this section called? Realignment is part of the discussion.

The 4 schools rumored are Metro State, Colorado Mesa (that was when they changed their name from Mesa State), Colorado Mines and Colorado State-Pueblo. Colorado Mines could go to the Big Sky with their formal rivals. Colorado Mesa, Metro State and Colorado State-Pueblo are possible targets for the WAC to replace Denver.

I am an alumnus of what is now CSU-Pueblo, and still have ties to Colorado. There are NO rumors about any of those schools moving to D1. NONE!

Hey, maybe Mines can move to the MWC and rejoin CSU and Wyoming. Or, maybe they could go to the PAC and rejoin Colorado and Utah.

While it won't happen, if CSU-Pueblo and Colorado Mesa were to go to the WAC, where would they play football?

WAC FCS football. WAC needs some Colorado schools to balance if they call up Lone Star and GNAC schools to do sponsor football again. They are possible targets for the WAC. Brings them up to D1 to compete in all sports against Northern Colorado, Colorado, Colorado State, Denver and so forth. Could start to help get a western conference of LAX at the D1 as well.

(12-06-2016 12:10 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  The Ivy League don't give athletic scholarships.

However, they do give scholarships to almost everyone they admit based on need. Not very much to some, a lot to others.

The bulk of that goes to high academic achievers, because below a certain level, most admissions are from families that won't need much, if any, scholarship assistance ...
... but if you get admitted because you were recruited to play sports and meet the minimum academic standards to get in, you get to benefit from the same scholarship support as all of the other students.

So it's an "athletic admission", and then the scholarship flows as it would do for any student admitted for whatever reason.

Plus, if you're an athlete I'm sure you're given "higher consideration" to be awarded the aid than just a regular student.

So you probably get better awards, on average, than regular students coming from similar family means.

(12-02-2016 04:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 12:15 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You include almost every RMAC school in all of your posts. Which RMAC school has discussed moving to D1?

(11-30-2016 05:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 02:44 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 07:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  It is something I posted a few weeks ago that expect and invite to the ASun for North Alabama and football for the Big South.

And no, we do not have enough D1 football right now. D2 is overflowing with football schools right now with Davenport moving up from NAIA. Other NAIA schools could be applying in the future for D2 that have football. People sandblasted me for saying that North Alabama would get an invite. Now look at who have to eat crow.

http://www.timesdaily.com/sports/una_spo...5796f.html

Article from a couple of days ago.

You don't get blasted for talking about UNA moving up, which has been rumored and discussed for years. You get blasted for including half of D2 and large swaths of D3 and NAIA when anything resembling D1 expansion comes up.

No. It is rumors and talks about these schools. A lot of schools hinted that they are looking into upgrading to D1. They are possible targets for realignment talks. What is this section called? Realignment is part of the discussion.

The 4 schools rumored are Metro State, Colorado Mesa (that was when they changed their name from Mesa State), Colorado Mines and Colorado State-Pueblo. Colorado Mines could go to the Big Sky with their formal rivals. Colorado Mesa, Metro State and Colorado State-Pueblo are possible targets for the WAC to replace Denver.

Not one of those schools has ever been tied to a rumor about moving up. The name change at Mesa had nothing to do with a move to D1 or a rumor that they wanted D1. The name change was to repair an identity crisis they had. When someone heard Mesa State they had no idea where the school was located plus they wanted to get rid of the "college" in their name. Thus the change to COLORADO Mesa University. Same with Western State. They added COLORADO and University to their name for geographic and status name recognition.

Metro? You do realize that a large percentage of their students are non-traditional? It is a downtown, city campus that caters to the inner-city and older students looking to finish their degree. Pueblo? Have you been to Pueblo? They aren't going D1.

Not one Colorado school, nor RMAC school currently playing D2 athletics are moving up or have been rumored to be moving up.

(12-06-2016 11:59 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 04:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 12:15 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You include almost every RMAC school in all of your posts. Which RMAC school has discussed moving to D1?

(11-30-2016 05:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 02:44 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  You don't get blasted for talking about UNA moving up, which has been rumored and discussed for years. You get blasted for including half of D2 and large swaths of D3 and NAIA when anything resembling D1 expansion comes up.

No. It is rumors and talks about these schools. A lot of schools hinted that they are looking into upgrading to D1. They are possible targets for realignment talks. What is this section called? Realignment is part of the discussion.

The 4 schools rumored are Metro State, Colorado Mesa (that was when they changed their name from Mesa State), Colorado Mines and Colorado State-Pueblo. Colorado Mines could go to the Big Sky with their formal rivals. Colorado Mesa, Metro State and Colorado State-Pueblo are possible targets for the WAC to replace Denver.

Not one of those schools has ever been tied to a rumor about moving up. The name change at Mesa had nothing to do with a move to D1 or a rumor that they wanted D1. The name change was to repair an identity crisis they had. When someone heard Mesa State they had no idea where the school was located plus they wanted to get rid of the "college" in their name. Thus the change to COLORADO Mesa University. Same with Western State. They added COLORADO and University to their name for geographic and status name recognition.

Metro? You do realize that a large percentage of their students are non-traditional? It is a downtown, city campus that caters to the inner-city and older students looking to finish their degree. Pueblo? Have you been to Pueblo? They aren't going D1.

Not one Colorado school, nor RMAC school currently playing D2 athletics are moving up or have been rumored to be moving up.

You do not know for sure who would be called up. These schools in the RMAC have been listed as possible targets for the WAC. WAC needs schools to survive, and they can call up any of these schools.

(12-02-2016 04:04 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  I would think West Florida, West Georgia, and Valdosta make sense.

Totally agree.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/...ion_i.html

It is official. UNA joins A-Sun for 2018 and Big South for football.

(12-06-2016 06:40 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/...ion_i.html

It is official. UNA joins A-Sun for 2018 and Big South for football.

Nice deal for both parties

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I like this move and hope it opens a door for others in the Deep South to do the same.

(12-06-2016 12:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 11:59 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 04:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 12:15 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You include almost every RMAC school in all of your posts. Which RMAC school has discussed moving to D1?

(11-30-2016 05:36 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  No. It is rumors and talks about these schools. A lot of schools hinted that they are looking into upgrading to D1. They are possible targets for realignment talks. What is this section called? Realignment is part of the discussion.

The 4 schools rumored are Metro State, Colorado Mesa (that was when they changed their name from Mesa State), Colorado Mines and Colorado State-Pueblo. Colorado Mines could go to the Big Sky with their formal rivals. Colorado Mesa, Metro State and Colorado State-Pueblo are possible targets for the WAC to replace Denver.

Not one of those schools has ever been tied to a rumor about moving up. The name change at Mesa had nothing to do with a move to D1 or a rumor that they wanted D1. The name change was to repair an identity crisis they had. When someone heard Mesa State they had no idea where the school was located plus they wanted to get rid of the "college" in their name. Thus the change to COLORADO Mesa University. Same with Western State. They added COLORADO and University to their name for geographic and status name recognition.

Metro? You do realize that a large percentage of their students are non-traditional? It is a downtown, city campus that caters to the inner-city and older students looking to finish their degree. Pueblo? Have you been to Pueblo? They aren't going D1.

Not one Colorado school, nor RMAC school currently playing D2 athletics are moving up or have been rumored to be moving up.

You do not know for sure who would be called up. These schools in the RMAC have been listed as possible targets for the WAC. WAC needs schools to survive, and they can call up any of these schools.

Called up? I give up. No schools from the RMAC are moving up, most would be D3 if they had a conference available to play in. Move on.

Did Jacksonville St oppose UNA to the OVC, or is the OVC just too bloated?

(12-06-2016 07:58 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Did Jacksonville St oppose UNA to the OVC, or is the OVC just too bloated?

The OVC is too cool for D2 upgrades.

With regards to the A-Sun having 9 schools, there will be 352 schools playing men's basketball in Division I once UNA beings reclassifying. This means an even number of conferences have an odd number of programs. This could open up the opportunity for formal scheduling alliances to eliminate open dates on the weekends. For example:

Mountain West (11) and Big West (9)
Southland (13) and Summit (9)
American Athletic (11) and Atlantic Coast (15)
Atlantic Sun (9) and MEAC (13)
MAAC (11) and America East (9)


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(12-06-2016 08:11 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 07:58 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Did Jacksonville St oppose UNA to the OVC, or is the OVC just too bloated?

The OVC is too cool for D2 upgrades.

Plus even if the OVC is the eventual goal, a few years cutting their D1 teeth against Big South football and A-Sun everything else couldn't hurt.

(12-06-2016 09:05 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  MAAC (11) and America East (9)

No thank you.

Uneven scheduling isn't too big of a deal in basketball.

(12-06-2016 07:57 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 12:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 11:59 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 04:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 12:15 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You include almost every RMAC school in all of your posts. Which RMAC school has discussed moving to D1?

The 4 schools rumored are Metro State, Colorado Mesa (that was when they changed their name from Mesa State), Colorado Mines and Colorado State-Pueblo. Colorado Mines could go to the Big Sky with their formal rivals. Colorado Mesa, Metro State and Colorado State-Pueblo are possible targets for the WAC to replace Denver.

Not one of those schools has ever been tied to a rumor about moving up. The name change at Mesa had nothing to do with a move to D1 or a rumor that they wanted D1. The name change was to repair an identity crisis they had. When someone heard Mesa State they had no idea where the school was located plus they wanted to get rid of the "college" in their name. Thus the change to COLORADO Mesa University. Same with Western State. They added COLORADO and University to their name for geographic and status name recognition.

Metro? You do realize that a large percentage of their students are non-traditional? It is a downtown, city campus that caters to the inner-city and older students looking to finish their degree. Pueblo? Have you been to Pueblo? They aren't going D1.

Not one Colorado school, nor RMAC school currently playing D2 athletics are moving up or have been rumored to be moving up.

You do not know for sure who would be called up. These schools in the RMAC have been listed as possible targets for the WAC. WAC needs schools to survive, and they can call up any of these schools.

Called up? I give up. No schools from the RMAC are moving up, most would be D3 if they had a conference available to play in. Move on.

Why? RMAC used to be a major conference before the SEC, PAC 12, ACC and the Big 12 ever formed. They were one of the top conferences at the highest levels in the past. As for what is going on in D2? They are getting overcrowded right now with very few dollars to spread out in tournaments that many schools are considering moving to D1. Since some of these schools have LAX and club hockey? They could go to D1 for all sports to formed D1 LAX in the region, and more schools to be added if they go varsity for both men and women's hockey. Gives Air Force and Denver more teams to play with.

(12-06-2016 09:22 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 08:11 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 07:58 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Did Jacksonville St oppose UNA to the OVC, or is the OVC just too bloated?

The OVC is too cool for D2 upgrades.

Plus even if the OVC is the eventual goal, a few years cutting their D1 teeth against Big South football and A-Sun everything else couldn't hurt.

In many respects, think the Atlantic Sun is the stronger conference now, except geographically. Belmont moved over because of geography - all busses.

The OVC has invited plentry of DII'S in the last 20 years: SIUE, SE Mo St, Tenn Martin, Jacksonville St etc. Twelve members is enough.

(12-06-2016 03:20 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 04:04 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  I would think West Florida, West Georgia, and Valdosta make sense.

Totally agree.

I disagree. Valdosta is very happy being the big fish in a small pond from what I've seen. Doesn't mean they won't move it, but I could actually see them moving up vs West Florida & West Georgia. Two small schools that belong in D2.