(11-16-2016 12:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Imagine if Bourne had gotten a 2 for 1 with Lehigh like he should have and we had played Lehigh instead of Morhead in the home opener & won by 30-40 in stead of beating Morehead by 73. Lehigh is likely to finish the season with 9 straight wins at 9-2. They lost their opener to Monmouth 23-21 & VU 26-21. If one of those losses had been to JMU instead (by a lot more) we'd have a win over a 9-2 Lehigh instead of Morehead, or even CCSU. Would be a big boost to our SOS and 4-0 vs playoff teams would have been a solid #3. Damn what could have been..

Don't you remember all of the people last year who wanted JB's head for daring to schedule a "cupcake" like Lehigh?

(11-16-2016 05:46 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 12:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Imagine if Bourne had gotten a 2 for 1 with Lehigh like he should have and we had played Lehigh instead of Morhead in the home opener & won by 30-40 in stead of beating Morehead by 73. Lehigh is likely to finish the season with 9 straight wins at 9-2. They lost their opener to Monmouth 23-21 & VU 26-21. If one of those losses had been to JMU instead (by a lot more) we'd have a win over a 9-2 Lehigh instead of Morehead, or even CCSU. Would be a big boost to our SOS and 4-0 vs playoff teams would have been a solid #3. Damn what could have been..

Don't you remember all of the people last year who wanted JB's head for daring to schedule a "cupcake" like Lehigh?

i believe St. Francis (PA) is also headed to the playoffs this year.

The email athletics sent out tonight about playoff info said we would likely host on Dec 3 at 1pm. It would surprise me if they know the time of the playoff game already, but lordy I hope for a 3pm game at the earliest, not 1pm.

(11-16-2016 05:46 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  Don't you remember all of the people last year who wanted JB's head for daring to schedule a "cupcake" like Lehigh?

I do...They were wrong then & still wrong now. They are a name team, with an great academic reputation who makes the playoffs frequently. Play a patsy, a patriot school and an FBS. Furman would be a good alternative to Lehigh.

(11-16-2016 06:35 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  The email athletics sent out tonight about playoff info said we would likely host on Dec 3 at 1pm. It would surprise me if they know the time of the playoff game already, but lordy I hope for a 3pm game at the earliest, not 1pm.

From what i've heard Deez it's probably going to be a 1PM game. TV is dictating the time.

(11-16-2016 09:51 PM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 06:35 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  The email athletics sent out tonight about playoff info said we would likely host on Dec 3 at 1pm. It would surprise me if they know the time of the playoff game already, but lordy I hope for a 3pm game at the earliest, not 1pm.

From what i've heard Deez it's probably going to be a 1PM game. TV is dictating the time.

Word. I had hoped TV would be involved, and seemed to recall them announcing times after the bracket was final and then the networks weighed in. Just seemed surprising to know this far out.

(11-16-2016 09:11 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 05:46 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  Don't you remember all of the people last year who wanted JB's head for daring to schedule a "cupcake" like Lehigh?

I do...They were wrong then & still wrong now. They are a name team, with an great academic reputation who makes the playoffs frequently. Play a patsy, a patriot school and an FBS. Furman would be a good alternative to Lehigh.

Exactly. It's not like we're asking to play MVFC or BigSky teams. I know Bourne in the past has explained how challenging it is to get teams to come to BFS, but I just don't buy it.

I do understand that schedules are made years out and you have no idea if you catch a team in a playoff year or not, but at least with Lehigh and other PL/SoCon teams you have brand name recognition. I remember a series with McNeese St. in the 90s. What about Eastern Kentucky or other OVC teams?

Balance is the operative word, and my point was that in 2008's CAA a couple cupcakes were balancing the schedule. Now, you need 1 cupcake and 1 respectable school for the same balance. So yes, some blame goes to the AD.

Back on topic... JMU will be the #4 seed. And you can take that to the bank!

NCAA would want the revenue from a 4/5 game, so if in doubt - SC says BFS FTW!

TN-Martin and UCA are wild cards to shake the seeding, but I still think JMU lands at #4.

Hope you are right Yesol. If UTM and UCA are shaking things up, that would mean an upside surprise. Works for me.

Not that it has any negative effect on JMU, but if we want to say the CAA is strong, we actually need JSU to beat UTM. If UTM steals the autobid from JSU, JSU is now an at-large team, stealing a bubble spot from another team, such as a CAA team.

(11-17-2016 12:40 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Not that it has any negative effect on JMU, but if we want to say the CAA is strong, we actually need JSU to beat UTM. If UTM steals the autobid from JSU, JSU is now an at-large team, stealing a bubble spot from another team, such as a CAA team.

That would only kill the slim chance at the CAA getting 5 in. The CAA is gonna get 4 in. I would much rather have UTM upset JSU and JMU move up a seed spot than have Albany a chance to make the playoffs as a 5th CAA if they beat SBU to finish 7-4/4-4 with a G5 win, or SBU get in as a 5th CAA at 6-5/4-4 if they beat Albany because they end up with 2 wins over seeded teams (ND & RU).

Last year, we received a higher seed because a number of teams lost in the last week of the season. We backed into that seed. We earned it this year. I am still holding hope for a 2 seed or a 3. Don't get me wrong, a 4 seed is great but I would rather face NDSU in Frisco and not at their place. We have a very good chance of beating them at their place but why risk it. I would rather beat them for the title in a Hell in the Cell match. I might do a flip off the top of the cage into the announce table in Fri

winning the opening round for us would be a great start.

I agree with you on that one my friend. I have a feeling that Coach Houston will have this team dialed in. They have bought in and the performance and record show it. We will win every game we have at home and be possibly favored on the road depending where we have to go.

(11-16-2016 12:38 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  All times EST

Friday, 11/18:
(10 PM) EWU (9-1/7-0) (-20.5) @ PSU (3-7/2-5)

Sat, 11/19
(2 PM) UT Martin (7-4/6-1) @ JSU (9-1/6-0) (-16.5)
*3 of UTM's 4 losses to I-A schools. 12 games allowed since played @ Hawaii.

(3:00 PM, ESPN 3) NDSU (9-1/6-1) (-16.5) @ S Dakota (4-6/3-4)

(3:30 PM) Citadel (10-0/8-0) @ UNC (7-3/5-2)

(3:30, ESPN 3) UCA (9-1/8-0) (-1) @ SHSU (10-0/8-0)
*Neither team played a I-A. SHSU played a Div II. UCA's only loss was at home to Samford 35-29.

(10 PM) EWU (9-1/7-0) (-20.5) @ PSU (3-7/2-5)

-Updated with lines.
-UCA actually a sleight favorite over SHSU.
-EWU @ PSU is Fri night, not Sat

Thanks for the good info! Bump for people like me who make be looking for it. Still worried about SHSU possibly jumping us, although we clearly have the better resume

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Didn't realize the chair of the selection committee got an intimate look at JMU football first-hand but that may help us in the rankings...

Hutchinson says the margin between the top six ranked teams has been "razor-thin" and is part of the reason that, as all six have continued to win games, Sam Houston State dropped from No. 2 to No. 5 in the second ranking, Jacksonville State dropped from No. 1 to No. 3 in the third and final ranking, and North Dakota State rose from No. 4 to No. 1 over the final two rankings.

"It's not that significant if you know how closely ranked they were in terms of just the way our point system works," Hutchinson said.

Hutchinson, who is the Morehead State athletic director, said the biggest factors when evaluating a team for the field are overall record, results against Division I opponents, record against other conferences that have automatic qualifiers, head-to-head results against other potential qualifiers, common opponents' records and the Simple Rating System, which quantifies the strength of a team's schedule.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=...m=&src=FCS

Don't know that it matters much one way or the other, but UNCheat is beating The Citadel 41-0 entering the 4Q.

(11-19-2016 06:08 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Don't know that it matters much one way or the other, but UNCheat is beating The Citadel 41-0 entering the 4Q.

Should prevent Citadel getting a higher seed than us, but the one to worry about is Sam Houston.

(11-19-2016 10:29 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Didn't realize the chair of the selection committee got an intimate look at JMU football first-hand but that may help us in the rankings...

Hutchinson says the margin between the top six ranked teams has been "razor-thin" and is part of the reason that, as all six have continued to win games, Sam Houston State dropped from No. 2 to No. 5 in the second ranking, Jacksonville State dropped from No. 1 to No. 3 in the third and final ranking, and North Dakota State rose from No. 4 to No. 1 over the final two rankings.

"It's not that significant if you know how closely ranked they were in terms of just the way our point system works," Hutchinson said.

Hutchinson, who is the Morehead State athletic director, said the biggest factors when evaluating a team for the field are overall record, results against Division I opponents, record against other conferences that have automatic qualifiers, head-to-head results against other potential qualifiers, common opponents' records and the Simple Rating System, which quantifies the strength of a team's schedule.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=...m=&src=FCS

Yes, the Morehead AD is the chair, the UNH AD is the CAA rep, and the NEC rep is the AD from Central Connecticut State.

The part of the quote that I find extremely interesting is "record against other conferences that have automatic qualifiers". That would seem to be a shot against the Ivy League and the HBCU's. Now, it could be bitterness directed towards the MEAC (which would seem to hurt NC A&T's chances) or a play by a Pioneer AD to get more I-AA $$$ games for his program, but it will be interesting to see if other I-AA teams stop scheduling the non-playoff conference teams.

(11-19-2016 08:16 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  

(11-19-2016 10:29 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Didn't realize the chair of the selection committee got an intimate look at JMU football first-hand but that may help us in the rankings...

Hutchinson says the margin between the top six ranked teams has been "razor-thin" and is part of the reason that, as all six have continued to win games, Sam Houston State dropped from No. 2 to No. 5 in the second ranking, Jacksonville State dropped from No. 1 to No. 3 in the third and final ranking, and North Dakota State rose from No. 4 to No. 1 over the final two rankings.

"It's not that significant if you know how closely ranked they were in terms of just the way our point system works," Hutchinson said.

Hutchinson, who is the Morehead State athletic director, said the biggest factors when evaluating a team for the field are overall record, results against Division I opponents, record against other conferences that have automatic qualifiers, head-to-head results against other potential qualifiers, common opponents' records and the Simple Rating System, which quantifies the strength of a team's schedule.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=...m=&src=FCS

Yes, the Morehead AD is the chair, the UNH AD is the CAA rep, and the NEC rep is the AD from Central Connecticut State.

The part of the quote that I find extremely interesting is "record against other conferences that have automatic qualifiers". That would seem to be a shot against the Ivy League and the HBCU's. Now, it could be bitterness directed towards the MEAC (which would seem to hurt NC A&T's chances) or a play by a Pioneer AD to get more I-AA $$$ games for his program, but it will be interesting to see if other I-AA teams stop scheduling the non-playoff conference teams.

Yet we go and schedule a home-and-home with Norfolk State. Oh, it just hit me, when we travel to Norfolk in 2018 we'll get bonus points from the selection committee for playing our cupcake game as the visiting team. I get the strategy now. Pretty ingenious.