(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:47 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Mutiple sites now saying this is a done deal pending board approval. Nice write up by the OSU 247 site
https://t.co/zBBQDx1xbo

Good write up. I do not like the if he does well he could parlay it to a P5 job nonsense as UC has been relegated to the outside looking in. Hate that narrative, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

(12-09-2016 06:30 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:54 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  He will not be officially offered the gig until the Board grants their approval for the financials. We're not Oregon, we don't have the financial backing of a billionaire. what's so hard to understand about that?!?

Bottom line, from what i can gather from my sole inside source, the person has been selected. Now to approve his agreed upon price.



mc

Hmmm. Houston's board of trustees or whatever they call themselves granted the president and athletic director the powers to handle all coaching contract decisions prior to their next meeting. This was like a month ago.

This has zero to do with not having a billionaire backing the school. BOT approval is just a formality. I do not understand this at all. CTT was hired and in place in a matter of hours. What the heck?

Ok, whatever. You're wrong, buuuut whatever.

How one entity operates has no bearing on how UC does. Take it for what it's worth, but I got a real solid source. The deal is done. It's Fickell and negotiation was for money for his squad. BoT must approve prior to public announcement.





mc

(12-09-2016 06:02 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I'm trying to remember waiting on the board before we announced Tubs. Oh wait, we didn't.

Hardly anyone waits on that. It's usually announced beforehand and the BOT formality is a few days afterwards.

(12-09-2016 06:19 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:13 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:07 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:04 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:02 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I'm trying to remember waiting on the board before we announced Tubs. Oh wait, we didn't.

BOT stuff is a formality.

I get that. So then why are we waiting to announce?

Maybe the term sheet on the cocktail napkin is not totally done. Surely the first rodeo for the interim president, maybe she doesn't want the deal announced until the formality is complete?

Oh Jeezus! Please tell me that's not the case.

lol I hear ya. That would be a joke

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:47 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Mutiple sites now saying this is a done deal pending board approval. Nice write up by the OSU 247 site
https://t.co/zBBQDx1xbo

Good write up. I do not like the if he does well he could parlay it to a P5 job nonsense as UC has been relegated to the outside looking in. Hate that narrative, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

Don't we want the one where he busts his ass to move quickly. This will never be a destinations spot except for the Tuberville types.

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:47 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Mutiple sites now saying this is a done deal pending board approval. Nice write up by the OSU 247 site
https://t.co/zBBQDx1xbo

Good write up. I do not like the if he does well he could parlay it to a P5 job nonsense as UC has been relegated to the outside looking in. Hate that narrative, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

I won't believe any coach is here for the long haul till I see it, but the guy has 6 kids, and part of me does not think he wants to move them around a ton. I think that may be one reason he pursued UC so hard ( that is if rumors are true). I could see him wanting this to be his only head coaching gig until Ohio State opens up. That said, I won't believe any of the "long term commitment" coach speak till I see it.

(12-09-2016 07:37 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:47 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Mutiple sites now saying this is a done deal pending board approval. Nice write up by the OSU 247 site
https://t.co/zBBQDx1xbo

Good write up. I do not like the if he does well he could parlay it to a P5 job nonsense as UC has been relegated to the outside looking in. Hate that narrative, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

I won't believe any coach is here for the long haul till I see it, but the guy has 6 kids, and part of me does not think he wants to move them around a ton. I think that may be one reason he pursued UC so hard ( that is if rumors are true). I could see him wanting this to be his only head coaching gig until Ohio State opens up. That said, I won't believe any of the "long term commitment" coach speak till I see it.

Yeah. Nor should you, or any of us. In the meantime, we jus gotta enjoy the ride.

I think it's safe to say that unless he does some meteoric rise like Herman did we got him for AT LEAST 3 years. A lot can happen in that timeframe. We've seen some amazing things. Hopefully we're set for another run at fame.



mc

(12-09-2016 07:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:47 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Mutiple sites now saying this is a done deal pending board approval. Nice write up by the OSU 247 site
https://t.co/zBBQDx1xbo

Good write up. I do not like the if he does well he could parlay it to a P5 job nonsense as UC has been relegated to the outside looking in. Hate that narrative, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

Don't we want the one where he busts his ass to move quickly. This will never be a destinations spot except for the Tuberville types.

Peterson stayed at Boise for a long time because that is where he wanted to be. Why can't it be both?

(12-09-2016 07:26 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:30 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:54 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  He will not be officially offered the gig until the Board grants their approval for the financials. We're not Oregon, we don't have the financial backing of a billionaire. what's so hard to understand about that?!?

Bottom line, from what i can gather from my sole inside source, the person has been selected. Now to approve his agreed upon price.



mc

Hmmm. Houston's board of trustees or whatever they call themselves granted the president and athletic director the powers to handle all coaching contract decisions prior to their next meeting. This was like a month ago.

This has zero to do with not having a billionaire backing the school. BOT approval is just a formality. I do not understand this at all. CTT was hired and in place in a matter of hours. What the heck?

Ok, whatever. You're wrong, buuuut whatever.

How one entity operates has no bearing on how UC does. Take it for what it's worth, but I got a real solid source. The deal is done. It's Fickell and negotiation was for money for his squad. BoT must approve prior to public announcement.





mc

Ok, but pardon me for not taking message board guy saying he has inside information as gold standard, when it has been proven that it is a formality. Buuut whatever.

(12-09-2016 07:43 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:26 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:30 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:54 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  He will not be officially offered the gig until the Board grants their approval for the financials. We're not Oregon, we don't have the financial backing of a billionaire. what's so hard to understand about that?!?

Bottom line, from what i can gather from my sole inside source, the person has been selected. Now to approve his agreed upon price.



mc

Hmmm. Houston's board of trustees or whatever they call themselves granted the president and athletic director the powers to handle all coaching contract decisions prior to their next meeting. This was like a month ago.

This has zero to do with not having a billionaire backing the school. BOT approval is just a formality. I do not understand this at all. CTT was hired and in place in a matter of hours. What the heck?

Ok, whatever. You're wrong, buuuut whatever.

How one entity operates has no bearing on how UC does. Take it for what it's worth, but I got a real solid source. The deal is done. It's Fickell and negotiation was for money for his squad. BoT must approve prior to public announcement.





mc

Ok, but pardon me for not taking message board guy saying he has inside information as gold standard, when it has been proven that it is a formality. Buuut whatever.

Understandable. It's easier...and prolly safer to be skeptical/ cynical. However, in the end,, it'll be just as i said tho.

At some point i can maybe reveal. But in the meantime I'll just say this, my source will be making Cincinnati news shortly, in the new year.




mc

(12-09-2016 07:41 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:47 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Good write up. I do not like the if he does well he could parlay it to a P5 job nonsense as UC has been relegated to the outside looking in. Hate that narrative, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

Don't we want the one where he busts his ass to move quickly. This will never be a destinations spot except for the Tuberville types.

Peterson stayed at Boise for a long time because that is where he wanted to be. Why can't it be both?

It absolutely could be both, but we have seen the reality of the new era of college football...most coaches dont say. Its hard to think of where else he would want to go outside of Ohio State. 20 years as a buckeye its hard to imagine he would like to be on the opposing sidelines every year.

(12-09-2016 07:52 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:43 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:26 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:30 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Hmmm. Houston's board of trustees or whatever they call themselves granted the president and athletic director the powers to handle all coaching contract decisions prior to their next meeting. This was like a month ago.

This has zero to do with not having a billionaire backing the school. BOT approval is just a formality. I do not understand this at all. CTT was hired and in place in a matter of hours. What the heck?

Ok, whatever. You're wrong, buuuut whatever.

How one entity operates has no bearing on how UC does. Take it for what it's worth, but I got a real solid source. The deal is done. It's Fickell and negotiation was for money for his squad. BoT must approve prior to public announcement.





mc

Ok, but pardon me for not taking message board guy saying he has inside information as gold standard, when it has been proven that it is a formality. Buuut whatever.

Understandable. It's easier...and prolly safer to be skeptical/ cynical. However, in the end,, it'll be just as i said tho.

At some point i can maybe reveal. But in the meantime I'll just say this, my source will be making Cincinnati news shortly, in the new year.




mc

Maybe you misunderstood me. Not skeptical or cynical at all. It is being reported everywhere that Fickell is the next coach without you and your inside information. The discussion was about why we would have to wait for board approval on a formality. You can pat yourself on the back all you want superstar. Do not care.

(12-09-2016 07:53 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:41 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

Don't we want the one where he busts his ass to move quickly. This will never be a destinations spot except for the Tuberville types.

Peterson stayed at Boise for a long time because that is where he wanted to be. Why can't it be both?

It absolutely could be both, but we have seen the reality of the new era of college football...most coaches dont say. Its hard to think of where else he would want to go outside of Ohio State. 20 years as a buckeye its hard to imagine he would like to be on the opposing sidelines every year.

So maybe he becomes the Peterson of UC. I like that narrative much more than the other. So I will stick to that til my hopes come crashing down on me. After all, that is the Bearcat way!

(12-09-2016 08:03 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:52 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:43 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:26 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:30 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  This has zero to do with not having a billionaire backing the school. BOT approval is just a formality. I do not understand this at all. CTT was hired and in place in a matter of hours. What the heck?

Ok, whatever. You're wrong, buuuut whatever.

How one entity operates has no bearing on how UC does. Take it for what it's worth, but I got a real solid source. The deal is done. It's Fickell and negotiation was for money for his squad. BoT must approve prior to public announcement.





mc

Ok, but pardon me for not taking message board guy saying he has inside information as gold standard, when it has been proven that it is a formality. Buuut whatever.

Understandable. It's easier...and prolly safer to be skeptical/ cynical. However, in the end,, it'll be just as i said tho.

At some point i can maybe reveal. But in the meantime I'll just say this, my source will be making Cincinnati news shortly, in the new year.




mc

Maybe you misunderstood me. Not skeptical or cynical at all. It is being reported everywhere that Fickell is the next coach without you and your inside information. The discussion was about why we would have to wait for board approval on a formality. You can pat yourself on the back all you want superstar. Do not care.

couple of things: 1) i didn't misunderstand you. i'm speaking to how the order of affairs will play out. Like i said, it will not be public until the BoT writes off. I said regardless of how it's been done elsewhere, or even here previously...this time this is the case. That was our point of contention/ difference

2) idk why the smartarseness. i'm just sharing context. we're all bearcat fans so thought i would help shed some light. Funny how when someone who just happens to have some insight shares it it's then drama. That's what we're all here for in the first place. duh.

chill.


mc

(12-09-2016 07:41 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:47 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Good write up. I do not like the if he does well he could parlay it to a P5 job nonsense as UC has been relegated to the outside looking in. Hate that narrative, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

Don't we want the one where he busts his ass to move quickly. This will never be a destinations spot except for the Tuberville types.

Peterson stayed at Boise for a long time because that is where he wanted to be. Why can't it be both?

Peterson Stayed at Bosie because he wanted Cal or UCLA but when those did not happen and the P5 happened he took what he could.

(12-09-2016 08:08 PM)Nobones Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:41 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

Don't we want the one where he busts his ass to move quickly. This will never be a destinations spot except for the Tuberville types.

Peterson stayed at Boise for a long time because that is where he wanted to be. Why can't it be both?

Peterson Stayed at Bosie because he wanted Cal or UCLA but when those did not happen and the P5 happened he took what he could.

Does he have some connection of some sort to those schools?

If I'm not mistaken both had openings at some point they coulda filled by hiring him. Someone has GOTTA be kicking themselves in the arse for passing him up....if indeed he wanted the roles.




mc

(12-09-2016 08:07 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 08:03 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:52 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:43 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:26 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  Ok, whatever. You're wrong, buuuut whatever.

How one entity operates has no bearing on how UC does. Take it for what it's worth, but I got a real solid source. The deal is done. It's Fickell and negotiation was for money for his squad. BoT must approve prior to public announcement.





mc

Ok, but pardon me for not taking message board guy saying he has inside information as gold standard, when it has been proven that it is a formality. Buuut whatever.

Understandable. It's easier...and prolly safer to be skeptical/ cynical. However, in the end,, it'll be just as i said tho.

At some point i can maybe reveal. But in the meantime I'll just say this, my source will be making Cincinnati news shortly, in the new year.




mc

Maybe you misunderstood me. Not skeptical or cynical at all. It is being reported everywhere that Fickell is the next coach without you and your inside information. The discussion was about why we would have to wait for board approval on a formality. You can pat yourself on the back all you want superstar. Do not care.

couple of things: 1) i didn't misunderstand you. i'm speaking to how the order of affairs will play out. Like i said, it will not be public until the BoT writes off. I said regardless of how it's been done elsewhere, or even here previously...this time this is the case. That was our point of contention/ difference

2) idk why the smartarseness. i'm just sharing context. we're all bearcat fans so thought i would help shed some light. Funny how when someone who just happens to have some insight shares it it's then drama. That's what we're all here for in the first place. duh.

chill.


mc

Yes we are all Bearcat fans, but when come off as being a smug smartazz with the dude your wrong buuuut whatever nonsense you can expect a reply. I am chill though, the temperature down here in Tennessee has dropped below freezing. Appreciate you concern.

(12-08-2016 08:48 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 08:46 PM)BearcatBallJones Wrote:  I for one like the hire. Still an Ohio guy with actual coordinator and some HC experience. Loves the state and strong recruiting connections here and in Florida. Learned under Tressel and Meyer along with all of the assistants who have come through Columbus. Young guy eager to prove himself in his first head coaching gig. Let's give him a shot. No need to give up on him as fans yet. Might not be the brilliant offensive mind we wanted but can get that with a strong coordinator hire. Don't always need to make the "sexy" hire.

Fickell would be a complete failure of a hire for this program. No amount of rationalization is going to change that.

So you're saying there's a chance?

(12-09-2016 08:08 PM)Nobones Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:41 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

Don't we want the one where he busts his ass to move quickly. This will never be a destinations spot except for the Tuberville types.

Peterson stayed at Boise for a long time because that is where he wanted to be. Why can't it be both?

Peterson Stayed at Bosie because he wanted Cal or UCLA but when those did not happen and the P5 happened he took what he could.

I heard that recently as well. Not sure what to make of it because did not both of those jobs come open before he moved? That would be strange that he was not in the running for either one with all of the success he had.

(12-09-2016 07:33 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:15 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 07:11 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:47 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Mutiple sites now saying this is a done deal pending board approval. Nice write up by the OSU 247 site
https://t.co/zBBQDx1xbo

Good write up. I do not like the if he does well he could parlay it to a P5 job nonsense as UC has been relegated to the outside looking in. Hate that narrative, but it is what it is.

Unfortunately it's the world we live in now. The exodus of AAC coaches to P5 jobs this year was discouraging and is most likely a sign that it will be the norm. The AAC is in a unique situation as it is a step above the MAC, but not financially set enough to compete with the P5. This situation downright sucks.

Yep. I wonder which narrative is the correct one with Fickell. The one where he wants this job so bad, and wants to put down roots, or the one where he wants to move quickly to so called bigger and better things.

Don't we want the one where he busts his ass to move quickly. This will never be a destinations spot except for the Tuberville types.

The whole idea of a destination spot is mostly malarkey. Yeah the AAC is going to be the prime shopping center for a lot of quality P5 programs but no school is immune. You think Brohm will stay at Purdue if he turns them around? Some of the biggest programs may seem like they've got someone entrenched, but that can change on a dime and there's always the possibility of the NFL for a lot of these guys. There's always going to be somebody shopping with more money if you win games anywhere in the college level.

IMO the best you can hope for is to find a guy with a strong fit which might keep him from job-hopping to the first school that can offer him a few more bucks or is perceived as being higher in the pecking order. I think we found that in Fickell assuming it comes to pass. I have no doubt he'd leave if he could get the OSU job and there's probably several or even quite a few others, but I'd be very surprised if he ever goes on a Butch Jones cross-country tour selling himself regardless of how many games he wins at UC - which is the key to all of this anyway...