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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...6-stickers
Quote:The AAC’s got somethin’ to say.
College football’s version of haves and have-nots lies in the distinction of Power 5 and Group of 5. The former includes the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and Big 12. The latter includes the Mountain West, MAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA and American. The budgets and resources are different, as is the postseason setup: each of the power leagues have automatic New Year’s Six bids, while the entire Group of 5 fights for one.
The American isn’t content being lumped in that group.
The league’s teams are all wearing that decal:
The American wants you to believe its teams are just as worthy of respect as the Power 5’s, and there’s merit to it.
Adjusting for opponent, the American has three teams in the S&P+ top 50 as of Oct. 29. Tulsa sits at No. 57, ranked ahead of Arkansas and Mississippi State. Seven American teams rank ahead of Georgia.
The American formed from the remnants of the Big East, which was an automatic-qualifier, power conference in the old BCS system.
But this week, we took a look at each division from every conference and ranked them by average S&P+ ranking. We found that the Mountain West Mountain division is actually the best Group of 5 division this year (just a touch worse than the SEC East). But both American divisions were higher than the Mountain West East division.
Houston dispatched the Big 12’s Oklahoma in Week 1, though, and although the Cougars may not be having the season they hoped for, it’s clear that the conference can compete with anyone.
UH and Boise won the first two editions of the Playoff era’s mid-major-friendly bowls.
Now that the conference is whole, it has the peace of mind of not being poached and the depth to match up with any league.
During the latest round of Big 12 expansion talks, it seemed apparent that the conference was going to annex as many as two teams from the American, and Houston seemed the most attractive suitor. Thanks to that fiasco, the conference held back on rolling out this marketing campaign.
Commissioner Mike Aresco had this to say to CBS:
"Obviously, this was a colossal distraction for a long time and, now that it appears over, we have a real opportunity to pursue our goal to be viewed as a Power Six conference," Aresco said Tuesday. "Our schools have probably never been better known nationally, ironically, because of this process. When a Power Five conference looks to expand, they look at our conference."
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RE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL Power 5? American Athletic Conference using helmet decals to argue i
Quo in 3...2...1
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(11-05-2016 01:39 PM)M1T4 Wrote: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...6-stickers
Quote:The AAC’s got somethin’ to say.
College football’s version of haves and have-nots lies in the distinction of Power 5 and Group of 5. The former includes the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and Big 12. The latter includes the Mountain West, MAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA and American. The budgets and resources are different, as is the postseason setup: each of the power leagues have automatic New Year’s Six bids, while the entire Group of 5 fights for one.
The American isn’t content being lumped in that group.
The league’s teams are all wearing that decal:
The American wants you to believe its teams are just as worthy of respect as the Power 5’s, and there’s merit to it.
Adjusting for opponent, the American has three teams in the S&P+ top 50 as of Oct. 29. Tulsa sits at No. 57, ranked ahead of Arkansas and Mississippi State. Seven American teams rank ahead of Georgia.
The American formed from the remnants of the Big East, which was an automatic-qualifier, power conference in the old BCS system.
But this week, we took a look at each division from every conference and ranked them by average S&P+ ranking. We found that the Mountain West Mountain division is actually the best Group of 5 division this year (just a touch worse than the SEC East). But both American divisions were higher than the Mountain West East division.
Houston dispatched the Big 12’s Oklahoma in Week 1, though, and although the Cougars may not be having the season they hoped for, it’s clear that the conference can compete with anyone.
UH and Boise won the first two editions of the Playoff era’s mid-major-friendly bowls.
Now that the conference is whole, it has the peace of mind of not being poached and the depth to match up with any league.
During the latest round of Big 12 expansion talks, it seemed apparent that the conference was going to annex as many as two teams from the American, and Houston seemed the most attractive suitor. Thanks to that fiasco, the conference held back on rolling out this marketing campaign.
Commissioner Mike Aresco had this to say to CBS:
"Obviously, this was a colossal distraction for a long time and, now that it appears over, we have a real opportunity to pursue our goal to be viewed as a Power Six conference," Aresco said Tuesday. "Our schools have probably never been better known nationally, ironically, because of this process. When a Power Five conference looks to expand, they look at our conference."
We can wear whatever we want. Doesn't change the fact we still have that G5 label and will continue to be seen as a G5.
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RE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL Power 5? American Athletic Conference using helmet decals to argue i
I like it.
Did that decal require NCAA approval?
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(11-05-2016 01:52 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 01:39 PM)M1T4 Wrote: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...6-stickers
Quote:The AAC’s got somethin’ to say.
College football’s version of haves and have-nots lies in the distinction of Power 5 and Group of 5. The former includes the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and Big 12. The latter includes the Mountain West, MAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA and American. The budgets and resources are different, as is the postseason setup: each of the power leagues have automatic New Year’s Six bids, while the entire Group of 5 fights for one.
The American isn’t content being lumped in that group.
The league’s teams are all wearing that decal:
The American wants you to believe its teams are just as worthy of respect as the Power 5’s, and there’s merit to it.
Adjusting for opponent, the American has three teams in the S&P+ top 50 as of Oct. 29. Tulsa sits at No. 57, ranked ahead of Arkansas and Mississippi State. Seven American teams rank ahead of Georgia.
The American formed from the remnants of the Big East, which was an automatic-qualifier, power conference in the old BCS system.
But this week, we took a look at each division from every conference and ranked them by average S&P+ ranking. We found that the Mountain West Mountain division is actually the best Group of 5 division this year (just a touch worse than the SEC East). But both American divisions were higher than the Mountain West East division.
Houston dispatched the Big 12’s Oklahoma in Week 1, though, and although the Cougars may not be having the season they hoped for, it’s clear that the conference can compete with anyone.
UH and Boise won the first two editions of the Playoff era’s mid-major-friendly bowls.
Now that the conference is whole, it has the peace of mind of not being poached and the depth to match up with any league.
During the latest round of Big 12 expansion talks, it seemed apparent that the conference was going to annex as many as two teams from the American, and Houston seemed the most attractive suitor. Thanks to that fiasco, the conference held back on rolling out this marketing campaign.
Commissioner Mike Aresco had this to say to CBS:
"Obviously, this was a colossal distraction for a long time and, now that it appears over, we have a real opportunity to pursue our goal to be viewed as a Power Six conference," Aresco said Tuesday. "Our schools have probably never been better known nationally, ironically, because of this process. When a Power Five conference looks to expand, they look at our conference."
We can wear whatever we want. Doesn't change the fact we still have that G5 label and will continue to be seen as a G5.
I don't care either way. We just need to produce
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RE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL Power 5? American Athletic Conference using helmet decals to argue i
(11-05-2016 01:39 PM)M1T4 Wrote: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...6-stickers
Quote:The AAC’s got somethin’ to say.
College football’s version of haves and have-nots lies in the distinction of Power 5 and Group of 5. The former includes the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 and Big 12. The latter includes the Mountain West, MAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA and American. The budgets and resources are different, as is the postseason setup: each of the power leagues have automatic New Year’s Six bids, while the entire Group of 5 fights for one.
The American isn’t content being lumped in that group.
The league’s teams are all wearing that decal:
The American wants you to believe its teams are just as worthy of respect as the Power 5’s, and there’s merit to it.
Adjusting for opponent, the American has three teams in the S&P+ top 50 as of Oct. 29. Tulsa sits at No. 57, ranked ahead of Arkansas and Mississippi State. Seven American teams rank ahead of Georgia.
The American formed from the remnants of the Big East, which was an automatic-qualifier, power conference in the old BCS system.
But this week, we took a look at each division from every conference and ranked them by average S&P+ ranking. We found that the Mountain West Mountain division is actually the best Group of 5 division this year (just a touch worse than the SEC East). But both American divisions were higher than the Mountain West East division.
Houston dispatched the Big 12’s Oklahoma in Week 1, though, and although the Cougars may not be having the season they hoped for, it’s clear that the conference can compete with anyone.
UH and Boise won the first two editions of the Playoff era’s mid-major-friendly bowls.
Now that the conference is whole, it has the peace of mind of not being poached and the depth to match up with any league.
During the latest round of Big 12 expansion talks, it seemed apparent that the conference was going to annex as many as two teams from the American, and Houston seemed the most attractive suitor. Thanks to that fiasco, the conference held back on rolling out this marketing campaign.
Commissioner Mike Aresco had this to say to CBS:
"Obviously, this was a colossal distraction for a long time and, now that it appears over, we have a real opportunity to pursue our goal to be viewed as a Power Six conference," Aresco said Tuesday. "Our schools have probably never been better known nationally, ironically, because of this process. When a Power Five conference looks to expand, they look at our conference."
MTW higher than AAC?
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RE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL Power 5? American Athletic Conference using helmet decals to argue i
Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
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That bogus S&P+ rating has FSU #14, USC #17, and 5 loss Ole Miss #19! Also 3 loss Western Kentucky at #24.... this rating system is dumb
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(11-05-2016 02:02 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote: Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
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RE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL Power 5? American Athletic Conference using helmet decals to argue i
(11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:02 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote: Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
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(11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:02 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote: Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
I broke my rose colored glasses.
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RE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL Power 5? American Athletic Conference using helmet decals to argue i
(11-05-2016 02:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:02 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote: Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
I broke my rose colored glasses.
I got some gorilla glue if you need some
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RE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL Power 5? American Athletic Conference using helmet decals to argue i
(11-05-2016 02:29 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:02 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote: Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
I broke my rose colored glasses.
I got some gorilla glue if you need some
Hes depressed because he really believed UH was gonna make the playoff
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(11-05-2016 02:54 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:29 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
I broke my rose colored glasses.
I got some gorilla glue if you need some
Hes depressed because he really believed UH was gonna make the playoff
Never thought we would make the playoff as the committee would have found a way to keep us out. Definitely had hopes of making the cotton bowl though. The big 12 fiasco also showed that this conference is going to get screwed which pissed me off more.
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(11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:02 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote: Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
It's not a Houston fan. He's working you guys. Always was.
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(11-05-2016 03:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:02 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote: Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
It's not a Houston fan. He's working you guys. Always was.
Oh so because im not a homer that means im not a houston fan? Good thing every just considers you a troll otherwise we might be in trouble.
Like i said have had season tickets since for 21 years and never missed a home game. You don't get to decide who is an isn't fan.
(This post was last modified: 11-05-2016 03:13 PM by Westhoff123.)
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(11-05-2016 03:11 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:02 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote: Man that s&p+ rankings is the stupidest rankings I've seen so far. No only is the mwc mountain not better than the AAC west but the AAC east isn't better either, and exactly what indy teams are doing so great for them to be ranked over the AAC west?
Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
It's not a Houston fan. He's working you guys. Always was.
Oh so because im not a homer that means im not a houston fan? Good thing every just considers you a troll otherwise we might be in trouble.
Like i said have had season tickets since for 21 years and never missed a home game. You don't get to decide who is an isn't fan.
But only has stubs from the past 2 years. Don't forget that part
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(11-05-2016 03:14 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:11 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: Well our conference as a whole hasn't been great this year.
What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
It's not a Houston fan. He's working you guys. Always was.
Oh so because im not a homer that means im not a houston fan? Good thing every just considers you a troll otherwise we might be in trouble.
Like i said have had season tickets since for 21 years and never missed a home game. You don't get to decide who is an isn't fan.
But only has stubs from the past 2 years. Don't forget that part
Right.... because you know how many ticket stubs i have. I have my stub from the 2006 championship game too. Last i checked thats more than 2 years.
(This post was last modified: 11-05-2016 03:18 PM by Westhoff123.)
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RE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL Power 5? American Athletic Conference using helmet decals to argue i
(11-05-2016 03:17 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:14 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:11 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote: (11-05-2016 02:17 PM)M1T4 Wrote: What happen to you? You used to not be a Debbie downer
It's not a Houston fan. He's working you guys. Always was.
Oh so because im not a homer that means im not a houston fan? Good thing every just considers you a troll otherwise we might be in trouble.
Like i said have had season tickets since for 21 years and never missed a home game. You don't get to decide who is an isn't fan.
But only has stubs from the past 2 years. Don't forget that part
Right....
"you had season tickets since for 21 years"? lol. Whatever man
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(11-05-2016 03:20 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:17 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:14 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:11 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (11-05-2016 03:10 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote: It's not a Houston fan. He's working you guys. Always was.
Oh so because im not a homer that means im not a houston fan? Good thing every just considers you a troll otherwise we might be in trouble.
Like i said have had season tickets since for 21 years and never missed a home game. You don't get to decide who is an isn't fan.
But only has stubs from the past 2 years. Don't forget that part
Right....
"you had season tickets since for 21 years"? lol. Whatever man
Actually it was "have had" if your going to quote do it right. I still have season tickets by the way. Sorry your upset that im not a blind homer like you.
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