(09-26-2016 09:10 PM)RedRocker Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 06:34 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC needs to forget abut Miles.

Our best hope at this point is, get a B12 invite then go after a hungry coach that is ready to move to the P5 (PJ Fleck, Jeff Brohm).

Forget BK, Les Miles, and others.

The ONLY exception I would make to this is Jim Tressel. I know he is old but the man won a National Title, has UNBELIEVEABLE recruiting ties all through Ohio and with the B12 backdrop i think he could be a winner at UC AND build a local pipeline the likes we have never seen. Let him come in here, do that, get the OHIO pipeline going and when he is ready, he steps down, takes over as the AD and then we get a young G5 guy we think is ready. That would be what I would do If I were UC and the B12 thing happens (which I strongly believe it will).

Sounds plausible to me. Tressel will get into more homes in OH than Tubs would ever hope to and if we're in the B12, I'd say he'd go toe-to-toe with Urb on a number of recruits.

I thought people here wanted a "fiery" coach? Tressel is about as fiery as a bowl of cold oatmeal.

The Vest Knows Best.

Tressel ball was snooze ball. Pass.

(09-26-2016 11:31 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Tressel ball was snooze ball. Pass.

It wasn't exciting...true but it was also "win ball".

Same with Dantonio....his Mich St teams are boring as heck but the man wins.

We already got boring here...if we are going to get boring, might as well get "good-boring' instead of "bad-boring".

And like I said, the man would recruit OH like a beast....something that is LONG past due here. Potentially set us up for decades if we got the right coach after him.

If we want a high energy old fart hire Frank Solich.

(09-27-2016 08:15 AM)doss2 Wrote:  If we want a high energy old fart hire Frank Solich.

We already did that. Solich's best days were just a few years ahead of Tubbs'.

How about Howard Schnellenberger? 6-0 in bowl games and he's only 82 years young?

(09-27-2016 09:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 08:15 AM)doss2 Wrote:  If we want a high energy old fart hire Frank Solich.

We already did that. Solich's best days were just a few years ahead of Tubbs'.

TT is low energy, Solich is high.

7 years ago I would have hired Solich but not now.

(09-26-2016 11:31 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Tressel ball was snooze ball. Pass.

People often say this but Tressel's teams over his last 5 years (2006-2010) averaged 32 points per game...I don't quite qualify that as snooze ball.

(09-27-2016 01:17 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 11:31 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Tressel ball was snooze ball. Pass.

People often say this but Tressel's teams over his last 5 years (2006-2010) averaged 32 points per game...I don't quite qualify that as snooze ball.

The ironic thing is that back in the BK era I knew a lot of OSU fans in Central Ohio who told me they liked watching UC football because it was fun (compared to Tressel Ball).

How ironic is it that seven years later OSU is running the spread and UC is running a pro-style offense?

(09-27-2016 01:17 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 11:31 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Tressel ball was snooze ball. Pass.

People often say this but Tressel's teams over his last 5 years (2006-2010) averaged 32 points per game...I don't quite qualify that as snooze ball.

Yeah his offenses completely changed his last 4-5 years at OSU. It wasn't boring like it was in the beginning. I'd be happy with that hire. He would be able to definitely upgrade our talent and recruit Ohio more successfully than we've seen recently. He'd be a better fit than a Les Miles.

We play beige ball now. Honestly, there are drives that I have a tough time staying actively interested. It's a boring brand a bit reminiscent of the Don Treadwell era.

(09-27-2016 01:23 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 01:17 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 11:31 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Tressel ball was snooze ball. Pass.

People often say this but Tressel's teams over his last 5 years (2006-2010) averaged 32 points per game...I don't quite qualify that as snooze ball.

Yeah his offenses completely changed his last 4-5 years at OSU. It wasn't boring like it was in the beginning. I'd be happy with that hire. He would be able to definitely upgrade our talent and recruit Ohio more successfully than we've seen recently. He'd be a better fit than a Les Miles.

Correct. They started instituting the spread during the Troy Smith era. When people think of "Tressel-ball" the classic examples are his early 2000s teams with Craig Krentzel at QB where the defense and special teams had to carry the day.

You damn straight it would open up Ohio. People in Central and Northeast Ohio think that man is the Messiah.

All this being said, I don't see him giving up his gig as president at Youngstown State. His coaching days were coming to a close anyway. He was just one year away from his contract expiring at Ohio State and it was pretty well known in circles in Columbus that he was going to retire before Tattoo-Gate became public.

(09-27-2016 01:31 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 01:23 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 01:17 PM)Banter Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 11:31 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Tressel ball was snooze ball. Pass.

People often say this but Tressel's teams over his last 5 years (2006-2010) averaged 32 points per game...I don't quite qualify that as snooze ball.

Yeah his offenses completely changed his last 4-5 years at OSU. It wasn't boring like it was in the beginning. I'd be happy with that hire. He would be able to definitely upgrade our talent and recruit Ohio more successfully than we've seen recently. He'd be a better fit than a Les Miles.

Correct. They started instituting the spread during the Troy Smith era. When people think of "Tressel-ball" the classic examples are his early 2000s teams with Craig Krentzel at QB where the defense and special teams had to carry the day.

You damn straight it would open up Ohio. People in Central and Northeast Ohio think that man is the Messiah.

All this being said, I don't see him giving up his gig as president at Youngstown State. His coaching days were coming to a close anyway. He was just one year away from his contract expiring at Ohio State and it was pretty well known in circles in Columbus that he was going to retire before Tattoo-Gate became public.

You're probably correct in that he wouldn't take the job, but he is the one older guy I would absolutely inquire about and be on board with.

^^ Agree. My guess is if we are stuck in the AAC (as today's Pete Thamel article indicates) that our next coach will come from the assistant ranks of a P5 program. That is the current trend at this level as experienced coaches from the MAC, C-USA, etc. see this as a lateral move. We would follow the lead of schools like Houston who hired Tom Herman from OSU, Memphis who hired Mike Norvell from Arizona State, ECU who hired Scottie Montgomery from Duke, etc.

The list of guys in this category IMO include (in no particular order) Lincoln Riley (Oklahoma); Major Applewhite (Houston); Ed Warriner (Ohio State); Tee Martin (USC); Mike Sanford (Notre Dame) etc. Several of those names will have better options this off season and may not be obtainable for us.