(09-12-2016 12:45 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  I saw this story on ESPN and was curious to hear everyone's thoughts. He's going to use this as an opportunity to try and get Big12 officials at every game they play at home against non P-5 teams. Oh by the way, the replay officials that also missed the call were Big 12 officials.

Gundy only wants P-5 officials

He's an idiot the replay officials were from the BIG 12!! Big dummy

(09-12-2016 05:38 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2016 12:54 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Watch the ucf vs Michigan game. Yeah Iet's add more home cooking and just pencil in a victory for them.

Sorry but officials had nothing to do why UCF lost to Michigan or why the score wasnt close.

Not why we lost but multiple drives lost because of poor calls. We had them in a 3Rd and long with clear offenaive holding or takedown from behind. They score a td off that drive as one example. They didn't even get a penalty until the 3rd quarter.

maybe instead of getting mad at the refs, Gundy should be mad his team gave up this monstrosity...

Imagine no interwebs, no cell phones, no instant replay. Then go play an SEC school on the road. It was just a given that you had to beat the refs too. All this ref whining is just turrible. Bunch of weenies.

This was not the result of missed call on the field. This was a failure of a rules interpretation. There should be a "rules" official in the booth of every game that can stop this kind of thing from happening. Surely...that can be done. What happened to OKST is just wrong. Gundy has every right to be upset. Hopefully something will be done to see that this does not happen again. Maybe each team can have one "rules review" per game. They could have someone on staff that is an expert and protest immediately some rules question. It is embarrassing to college football that CMU was allowed another play.

Will the refs have to be 40?

(09-12-2016 08:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  This was not the result of missed call on the field. This was a failure of a rules interpretation. There should be a "rules" official in the booth of every game that can stop this kind of thing from happening. Surely...that can be done. What happened to OKST is just wrong. Gundy has every right to be upset. Hopefully something will be done to see that this does not happen again. Maybe each team can have one "rules review" per game. They could have someone on staff that is an expert and protest immediately some rules question. It is embarrassing to college football that CMU was allowed another play.

Omg. Its embarrassing that ok state considers themselves elite or p5. After their complete destruction by the miss black bears in the most boring sugar bowl in history you would that they would maybe just focus of practicing.

Most in G5 don't want to use P5 conf officials either.

(09-12-2016 08:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  This was not the result of missed call on the field. This was a failure of a rules interpretation. There should be a "rules" official in the booth of every game that can stop this kind of thing from happening. Surely...that can be done. What happened to OKST is just wrong. Gundy has every right to be upset. Hopefully something will be done to see that this does not happen again. Maybe each team can have one "rules review" per game. They could have someone on staff that is an expert and protest immediately some rules question. It is embarrassing to college football that CMU was allowed another play.

So you're advocating for the current rule that would've allowed OSU to commit a penalty and end the game? That sounds fair to you? Yes the officials missed the call as it is written, but the rule sucks. You shouldn't be allowed to end the game while committing a penalty. Thats probably why they missed the call in the first place. ITS ****** RULE. Sorry, sucks to suck Okie State.

(09-13-2016 09:02 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Most in G5 don't want to use P5 conf officials either.

In 2011, a Big East Officiating Crew called a missed extra point by Syracuse good which would have given Toledo a win in regulation. All Toledo got was an apology from the BE. Same year, the Rockets got homered on several calls in a 27-22 loss to the Buckeyes, including a major holding call by the Buckeyes on a punt return that went for a TD missed by Officials. The TD punt return was a redo because of a phantom block in the back call on Toledo on the previous play.

I posted this on the MAC board, but just in case you are interested, a commentator on Deadspin.com, zAmb0ni, found the rationale for the somewhat arcane rule which was implemented in 2009.

3-2-3-a-1 Extension of Periods
Extension of Periods
ARTICLE 3. a. A period shall be extended for an untimed down (other than a try) if during a down in which time expires one or more of the following occurs (A.R. 3-2-3-I-VIII)
1. a penalty is accepted for a live-ball foul(s) not treated as a dead-ball foul.(Exception: Rule 10-2-2-g-1). The period is not extended if the statement of penalty includes loss of down.
RATIONALE: Prevents the offense from gaining the unfair advantage of an additional play if they complete an illegal forward pass for a touchdown as time in a half expires.

So while technically the refs were wrong, the exception was made to stop the offense from benefiting from a penalty, which is what would have happened had the refs not granted an untimed down. Crazy stuff.

(09-13-2016 11:55 AM)IULurker Wrote:  I posted this on the MAC board, but just in case you are interested, a commentator on Deadspin.com, zAmb0ni, found the rationale for the somewhat arcane rule which was implemented in 2009.

3-2-3-a-1 Extension of Periods
Extension of Periods
ARTICLE 3. a. A period shall be extended for an untimed down (other than a try) if during a down in which time expires one or more of the following occurs (A.R. 3-2-3-I-VIII)
1. a penalty is accepted for a live-ball foul(s) not treated as a dead-ball foul.(Exception: Rule 10-2-2-g-1). The period is not extended if the statement of penalty includes loss of down.
RATIONALE: Prevents the offense from gaining the unfair advantage of an additional play if they complete an illegal forward pass for a touchdown as time in a half expires.

So while technically the refs were wrong, the exception was made to stop the offense from benefiting from a penalty, which is what would have happened had the refs not granted an untimed down. Crazy stuff.

Before this rule ECU lost, to USM I believe, when USM committed a penalty on a hailmary and received an un-timed down and scored. Its was complete **** sauce. OSU should not have been able to end them game on a penalty they committed. OSU and Man Gundy can build a bridge.

Gundy has a mangina.

Considering he didn't call a time out or try to stop play to correct the refs, maybe he should open up a rule book?

(09-13-2016 11:55 AM)IULurker Wrote:  I posted this on the MAC board, but just in case you are interested, a commentator on Deadspin.com, zAmb0ni, found the rationale for the somewhat arcane rule which was implemented in 2009.

3-2-3-a-1 Extension of Periods
Extension of Periods
ARTICLE 3. a. A period shall be extended for an untimed down (other than a try) if during a down in which time expires one or more of the following occurs (A.R. 3-2-3-I-VIII)
1. a penalty is accepted for a live-ball foul(s) not treated as a dead-ball foul.(Exception: Rule 10-2-2-g-1). The period is not extended if the statement of penalty includes loss of down.
RATIONALE: Prevents the offense from gaining the unfair advantage of an additional play if they complete an illegal forward pass for a touchdown as time in a half expires.

So while technically the refs were wrong, the exception was made to stop the offense from benefiting from a penalty, which is what would have happened had the refs not granted an untimed down. Crazy stuff.

So the interpretation of the rule was correct? I'm assuming this is a spirit versus letter type of conversation.

Of course the narrative won't change as that train has left the station.

(09-12-2016 01:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Why do conferences have officials anyway. The ncaa doesnt make enough money to have officials? Those mac officials never reffed a big12 game.

Does he think b12 officials will be more fair "wink" "wink".

I thought the officails penalized cmu more than osu and made a bogus call that allowed osu score their last touchdown

Nobody likes a crybaby. Score more points. Learn to tackle. What a puss

Don't intentionally ground the ball.... etc.