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Unconscionable and reprehensible...
.. What the Big 12 is doing to the fan bases of at least 10 schools which have no chance for admittance. They are truly the cretins of college football.
09-01-2016 02:10 PM
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I speak for all NIU fans when I say we will be OK.
09-01-2016 02:19 PM
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On the flip side, kudos to the Big 12 for making this a lively offseason.
09-01-2016 02:20 PM
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(09-01-2016 02:10 PM)westwolf Wrote:  .. What the Big 12 is doing to the fan bases of at least 10 schools which have no chance for admittance. They are truly the cretins of college football.

Well it seems they are just interviewing schools, not really evil. Every company in the world does the same thing every day.
09-01-2016 02:21 PM
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(09-01-2016 02:20 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  On the flip side, kudos to the Big 12 for making this a lively offseason.

Yup, they have a dozen schools whose fans will be paying a lot more attention to the B12.
09-01-2016 02:31 PM
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gotta love all this holyer than thou bull****.
09-01-2016 02:39 PM
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They can either err on the side of leaving out schools that merit consideration or including schools that don't. Prudence dictates the latter ... as does the President's fiduciary responsibility to their individual schools.

Compared to that, all they can do for the delicate sensibilities of schools being vetted is to make no official announcements about schools on the long or short list ... as they have refrained from doing.
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Not getting in the Big 12 could be a real blessing....
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I don't have a problem with the Big 12 here and the timeline is about what should be expected. Look at what they have actually announced. They announced that they were actively looking to expand to 12 or 14 teams. As far as official announcement's, I am pretty sure that is it.

From a few leaked things and a few things from presidents mouths we've gotten a little more. We've gotten that they were taking first set of presentations from a huge number of schools (seems excessive, but understandable in getting right and extending courtesy to a lot of schools). We've gotten that they have filtered through that first set and now want to interview about 12-13 schools.

I know that if you are a fan of a school in the discussion here, that all this is nerve racking, but if you are in charge of making a decision as big of this for the Big 12, this really isn't excessive. From the time they announced they were looking to expand to an official announcement (assuming they announce by around mid-October) will only be a few months. Given committees, coordination between schools, compromises that must be reached, and that this is only a small part of most the presidents jobs, that time frame is actually not all that long.

Edit: Much of this feels longer for three reasons.
1. We love this stuff and read about it all the time while the presidents don't go through scenarios just for the heck of it. I am sure there was general discussions about expansion, but actually deciding to expand meant looking very closely at all their options and trying to project out years. They can't afford to get this wrong and thus are looking very closely at options.
2. Rumors: How many different rumors have we heard? We buy in to some of them and think of them like official announcements while they only contain some or no truth (maybe one school likes a particular set after a first look, but that gets misconstrued as someone leading).
3. This is followed by effected fanbases far more than other realignment by other fanbases. Fanbases in Group of 5 conferences/BYU have been looking for years for a way into one of the power 5 conferences and thus paying attention for shifts a lot closer. Schools like Maryland, Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, etc might have decided they were ready for new conferences, but most didn't really actively monitor things until it seemed things were in motion. Since their conference situation wasn't horrible either way, they didn't quiete live and die on conference news as much as fans this time. That made things feel a lot quicker and also made it easier to keep things underwraps before things were ready to come out.
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I speak for all Rice fans when I say we need the publicity right now after 40 years of hiding.

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(09-01-2016 03:05 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  I speak for all Rice fans when I say we need the publicity right now after 40 years of hiding.

+1000. This is great for Rice, and most likely a dress rehearsal for what we hope are presentations to the AAC and/or MWC.
09-01-2016 03:09 PM
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(09-01-2016 02:19 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I speak for all NIU fans when I say we will be OK.

04-cheers
09-01-2016 03:15 PM
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(09-01-2016 02:10 PM)westwolf Wrote:  .. What the Big 12 is doing to the fan bases of at least 10 schools which have no chance for admittance. They are truly the cretins of college football.

Can you spell H-Y-P-E-R-B-O-L-E?
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(09-01-2016 03:05 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  I speak for all Rice fans when I say we need the publicity right now after 40 years of hiding.

Go Owls! Cream the Red Marshmallows tonight!
Rice @ WKU 8:00pm EST

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(09-01-2016 03:05 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  I speak for all Rice fans when I say we need the publicity right now after 40 years of hiding.

Go Owls! Cream the Red Marshmallows tonight!
Rice @ WKU 8:00pm EST

[Image: rice-15-mast-r-logo-1280.png][Image: red_marshmallow_pose_6_by_thedrksiren-d7c8l8f.png][Image: owls-wordmark.png] [Image: hi-res-6879646_crop_650.jpg?1372774040]

http://www.fearthetalons.com

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^^^^^^^^^^^^

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AAC would be very lucky to get Rice.
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It kept the off season from being "Yet another rape victim comes forward at Baylor, B12 has no comment"
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(09-01-2016 03:05 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  I speak for all Rice fans when I say we need the publicity right now after 40 years of hiding.

Go Owls! Cream the Red Marshmallows tonight!
Rice @ WKU 8:00pm EST

[Image: rice-15-mast-r-logo-1280.png][Image: red_marshmallow_pose_6_by_thedrksiren-d7c8l8f.png][Image: owls-wordmark.png] [Image: hi-res-6879646_crop_650.jpg?1372774040]

http://www.fearthetalons.com

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I'm sure that's why Arkansas St. did it. Plus it honed their presentations for AAC or CUSA.

UNLV basically said they got a free peer review, so it was beneficial.

I don't think any of the 20 schools had any doubt about where they stood, but they all got to do their sales pitch and possibly present information the Big 12 didn't know about their school.
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(09-01-2016 04:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  It kept the off season from being "Yet another rape victim comes forward at Baylor, B12 has no comment"

LOL yep they managed to nearly bury that story with expansion rumors.
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(09-01-2016 02:10 PM)westwolf Wrote:  .. What the Big 12 is doing to the fan bases of at least 10 schools which have no chance for admittance. They are truly the cretins of college football.

I thought this thread was about PSU honoring Joepa.
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