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(08-05-2016 03:06 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  OK! I'll bite. Who the he** is C. Austin Cox?

Porn channel. I'm surprised they are getting into sports content.
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(08-06-2016 08:17 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  But here's the thing. This is exactly to type of attempts to rationale an immediate 'fix it now' mentality rather than with a strategic approach.

To acquiesce to the demand of the TV now lacks vision. It's the same mistake C-USA made. That AAC deal only has three years left on it, so let's assume the networks "force" the AAC to add teams to keep the TV money respectable. What then happens is when that new TV deal starts to be renegotiated in a year and a half to two years from now, all those networks are going to revalue (or perhaps a better word is devalue) their assessment of what the league possesses and then on top of that the AAC is going to be forced to split that money more ways because of a decision they made based on just a couple of years worth of TV revenue.

At some point, the non-power leagues are going to have to start thinking more strategically, prepare for the long game and understand how to survive the massive shift that is occurring in collegiate athletics. But that's just one man's opinion so, que sera sera.

CUSA screwed up by continually making decisions based upon what it thought would sell according to no longer applicable paradigms. That's a completely different animal than a network telling you what will sell, i.e., what they're willing to pay for membership option "X" vs. what they're willing to pay for membership option "Y." ESPN knows which programs draw viewers and which ones don't. The pool of G5 schools has continually increased, but most of the newbs have no TV value. Promote a handful of G5s to the Big 12, and the pool of marketable programs grows even smaller.

Given that, the best strategy for everyone would be to get as many of those schools as possible under the same umbrella. The distributor, in whatever form, has the best possible product to broadcast, and the schools have the best possible product to offer up for bid (or sell directly to the public if things go that way instead).

Even if the network(s) do(es)n't factor into the equation, the AAC is still trying to be the top G5 by a comfortable margin. If they lose 2 or more of the programs that enable them to make that claim, the rest of the pack closes the gap if they do nothing. Add one CUSA program, and it creates some distance. That distance increases exponentially with additional acquisitions of value, though.

To be honest, if the AAC loses enough teams to create the opportunity, it could gobble up every non-MAC Eastern & Central G5 program with a reasonable chance of EVER being ranked or winning the Accees Bowl bid, because the chaff that would be left in CUSA & the Belt at that point would never be taken seriously.
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(08-06-2016 01:15 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 11:12 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 03:11 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 12:56 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox · 46m46 minutes ago

It looks like #MTSU and the AAC have been in contact over the last two weeks. Blue Raiders have a nice stadium + great Memphis replacement.

____________________________________________

Maybe everyone in the conference has been in contact with them but this is the first tweet I've seen that mentions it. Look out ODU, Marshall and USM. MT is making its move.

Uhoh... To paraphrase another thread...

I believe its time to put MTSU in their place....



Nope. MTSU actually makes sense. They've earned the right to be in the discussion.

Marshall is fortunate that humor comprehension is not one of the factors considered for conference affiliation. Because if it were, you'd plainly be among the non-qualifiers, flyhawk98.

This is a sports message board. Good thing athleticism isn't a requirement to post, or you would be out of luck.
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(08-06-2016 09:46 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 08:17 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  But here's the thing. This is exactly to type of attempts to rationale an immediate 'fix it now' mentality rather than with a strategic approach.

To acquiesce to the demand of the TV now lacks vision. It's the same mistake C-USA made. That AAC deal only has three years left on it, so let's assume the networks "force" the AAC to add teams to keep the TV money respectable. What then happens is when that new TV deal starts to be renegotiated in a year and a half to two years from now, all those networks are going to revalue (or perhaps a better word is devalue) their assessment of what the league possesses and then on top of that the AAC is going to be forced to split that money more ways because of a decision they made based on just a couple of years worth of TV revenue.

At some point, the non-power leagues are going to have to start thinking more strategically, prepare for the long game and understand how to survive the massive shift that is occurring in collegiate athletics. But that's just one man's opinion so, que sera sera.

CUSA screwed up by continually making decisions based upon what it thought would sell according to no longer applicable paradigms. That's a completely different animal than a network telling you what will sell, i.e., what they're willing to pay for membership option "X" vs. what they're willing to pay for membership option "Y." ESPN knows which programs draw viewers and which ones don't. The pool of G5 schools has continually increased, but most of the newbs have no TV value. Promote a handful of G5s to the Big 12, and the pool of marketable programs grows even smaller.

Given that, the best strategy for everyone would be to get as many of those schools as possible under the same umbrella. The distributor, in whatever form, has the best possible product to broadcast, and the schools have the best possible product to offer up for bid (or sell directly to the public if things go that way instead).

Even if the network(s) do(es)n't factor into the equation, the AAC is still trying to be the top G5 by a comfortable margin. If they lose 2 or more of the programs that enable them to make that claim, the rest of the pack closes the gap if they do nothing. Add one CUSA program, and it creates some distance. That distance increases exponentially with additional acquisitions of value, though.

To be honest, if the AAC loses enough teams to create the opportunity, it could gobble up every non-MAC Eastern & Central G5 program with a reasonable chance of EVER being ranked or winning the Accees Bowl bid, because the chaff that would be left in CUSA & the Belt at that point would never be taken seriously.

Both Fox and CBS told us we had to go to 14 to keep the deal in place. And then they still reduced the payout.
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(08-07-2016 07:59 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 01:15 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 11:12 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 03:11 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 12:56 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox · 46m46 minutes ago

It looks like #MTSU and the AAC have been in contact over the last two weeks. Blue Raiders have a nice stadium + great Memphis replacement.

____________________________________________

Maybe everyone in the conference has been in contact with them but this is the first tweet I've seen that mentions it. Look out ODU, Marshall and USM. MT is making its move.

Uhoh... To paraphrase another thread...

I believe its time to put MTSU in their place....



Nope. MTSU actually makes sense. They've earned the right to be in the discussion.

Marshall is fortunate that humor comprehension is not one of the factors considered for conference affiliation. Because if it were, you'd plainly be among the non-qualifiers, flyhawk98.

This is a sports message board. Good thing athleticism isn't a requirement to post, or you would be out of luck.

Interesting response. And point conceded. Since I am more than thirty years past my fighting prime, I almost certainly would struggle with any athletic threshold requirement that might somehow be relevant to the discussion.

But since sports message boards are not themselves sporting events, and instead are only method of communication, I'm not sure where my declining athletic abilities are in any way applicable.

Humor, on the other hand, is very much a feature of communications. What ODUBB35 posted was both funny and clever, and a quality contribution to the dialogue.

Your posts, not so much. In fact, if I were a Marshall fan, I'd probably cringe anytime I saw your name pop up on one of these threads.
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(08-07-2016 07:59 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 01:15 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 11:12 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 03:11 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 12:56 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox · 46m46 minutes ago

It looks like #MTSU and the AAC have been in contact over the last two weeks. Blue Raiders have a nice stadium + great Memphis replacement.

____________________________________________

Maybe everyone in the conference has been in contact with them but this is the first tweet I've seen that mentions it. Look out ODU, Marshall and USM. MT is making its move.

Uhoh... To paraphrase another thread...

I believe its time to put MTSU in their place....



Nope. MTSU actually makes sense. They've earned the right to be in the discussion.

Marshall is fortunate that humor comprehension is not one of the factors considered for conference affiliation. Because if it were, you'd plainly be among the non-qualifiers, flyhawk98.

This is a sports message board. Good thing athleticism isn't a requirement to post, or you would be out of luck.

I expect that would preclude a fair amount of members of all message boards, but where you can definitely get a pretty good idea of someone's sense of humor on a message board, how you can figure out someone's athletic prowess from a message board is beyond me. Good work!
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(08-07-2016 09:02 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 07:59 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 01:15 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 11:12 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 03:11 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Uhoh... To paraphrase another thread...

I believe its time to put MTSU in their place....



Nope. MTSU actually makes sense. They've earned the right to be in the discussion.

Marshall is fortunate that humor comprehension is not one of the factors considered for conference affiliation. Because if it were, you'd plainly be among the non-qualifiers, flyhawk98.

This is a sports message board. Good thing athleticism isn't a requirement to post, or you would be out of luck.

Interesting response. And point conceded. Since I am more than thirty years past my fighting prime, I almost certainly would struggle with any athletic threshold requirement that might somehow be relevant to the discussion.

But since sports message boards are not themselves sporting events, and instead are only method of communication, I'm not sure where my declining athletic abilities are in any way applicable.

Humor, on the other hand, is very much a feature of communications. What ODUBB35 posted was both funny and clever, and a quality contribution to the dialogue.

Your posts, not so much. In fact, if I were a Marshall fan, I'd probably cringe anytime I saw your name pop up on one of these threads.

If I was an ODU fan I would cringe every time my team took the field against an FBS team.
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(08-07-2016 10:19 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 09:02 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 07:59 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 01:15 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 11:12 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Nope. MTSU actually makes sense. They've earned the right to be in the discussion.

Marshall is fortunate that humor comprehension is not one of the factors considered for conference affiliation. Because if it were, you'd plainly be among the non-qualifiers, flyhawk98.

This is a sports message board. Good thing athleticism isn't a requirement to post, or you would be out of luck.

Interesting response. And point conceded. Since I am more than thirty years past my fighting prime, I almost certainly would struggle with any athletic threshold requirement that might somehow be relevant to the discussion.

But since sports message boards are not themselves sporting events, and instead are only method of communication, I'm not sure where my declining athletic abilities are in any way applicable.

Humor, on the other hand, is very much a feature of communications. What ODUBB35 posted was both funny and clever, and a quality contribution to the dialogue.

Your posts, not so much. In fact, if I were a Marshall fan, I'd probably cringe anytime I saw your name pop up on one of these threads.

If I was an ODU fan I would cringe every time my team took the field against an FBS team.

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(08-06-2016 09:46 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 08:17 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  But here's the thing. This is exactly to type of attempts to rationale an immediate 'fix it now' mentality rather than with a strategic approach.

To acquiesce to the demand of the TV now lacks vision. It's the same mistake C-USA made. That AAC deal only has three years left on it, so let's assume the networks "force" the AAC to add teams to keep the TV money respectable. What then happens is when that new TV deal starts to be renegotiated in a year and a half to two years from now, all those networks are going to revalue (or perhaps a better word is devalue) their assessment of what the league possesses and then on top of that the AAC is going to be forced to split that money more ways because of a decision they made based on just a couple of years worth of TV revenue.

At some point, the non-power leagues are going to have to start thinking more strategically, prepare for the long game and understand how to survive the massive shift that is occurring in collegiate athletics. But that's just one man's opinion so, que sera sera.

CUSA screwed up by continually making decisions based upon what it thought would sell according to no longer applicable paradigms. That's a completely different animal than a network telling you what will sell, i.e., what they're willing to pay for membership option "X" vs. what they're willing to pay for membership option "Y." ESPN knows which programs draw viewers and which ones don't. The pool of G5 schools has continually increased, but most of the newbs have no TV value. Promote a handful of G5s to the Big 12, and the pool of marketable programs grows even smaller.

Given that, the best strategy for everyone would be to get as many of those schools as possible under the same umbrella. The distributor, in whatever form, has the best possible product to broadcast, and the schools have the best possible product to offer up for bid (or sell directly to the public if things go that way instead).

Even if the network(s) do(es)n't factor into the equation, the AAC is still trying to be the top G5 by a comfortable margin. If they lose 2 or more of the programs that enable them to make that claim, the rest of the pack closes the gap if they do nothing. Add one CUSA program, and it creates some distance. That distance increases exponentially with additional acquisitions of value, though.

To be honest, if the AAC loses enough teams to create the opportunity, it could gobble up every non-MAC Eastern & Central G5 program with a reasonable chance of EVER being ranked or winning the Accees Bowl bid, because the chaff that would be left in CUSA & the Belt at that point would never be taken seriously.

Well said
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(08-07-2016 12:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 10:19 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 09:02 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 07:59 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-06-2016 01:15 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Marshall is fortunate that humor comprehension is not one of the factors considered for conference affiliation. Because if it were, you'd plainly be among the non-qualifiers, flyhawk98.

This is a sports message board. Good thing athleticism isn't a requirement to post, or you would be out of luck.

Interesting response. And point conceded. Since I am more than thirty years past my fighting prime, I almost certainly would struggle with any athletic threshold requirement that might somehow be relevant to the discussion.

But since sports message boards are not themselves sporting events, and instead are only method of communication, I'm not sure where my declining athletic abilities are in any way applicable.

Humor, on the other hand, is very much a feature of communications. What ODUBB35 posted was both funny and clever, and a quality contribution to the dialogue.

Your posts, not so much. In fact, if I were a Marshall fan, I'd probably cringe anytime I saw your name pop up on one of these threads.

If I was an ODU fan I would cringe every time my team took the field against an FBS team.

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Hmm -- seems a little ironic, Dawgxas, that you would find that funny.
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weve been playing FBS football for 2 years and still managed to play decent with almost a .500 record with wins over good teams like LA Tech and Rice. Dont act like your school never had difficult times, from the 60s to the 80s your team performed horribly and as a program you are barely at .500 win loss record for your entire football history. We get it, you dont like ODU, well tough titty because we are here and historically all of our athletic programs are competetive with great support.
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Historically my team has never ended a game early because we were getting beat so bad.

I guess if I was an ODU fan I would cringe every time I heard "North Carolina."
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(08-07-2016 12:55 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Historically my team has never ended a game early because we were getting beat so bad.

I guess if I was an ODU fan I would cringe every time I heard "North Carolina."

historically, we have never been 0-9 and 0-10
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Back on topic (sorta), I fully expect MT to be ready to make some news when all this starts really getting going. We are getting things going all at once and that will be a major benefit wherever we may end up. Football stadium expansion/renovation project is huge, along with an IPF. Admin realizes what could happen and they are kicking it up. No repeats of last time's stumbling and pass over.
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(08-07-2016 01:00 PM)ODUguy1999 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 12:55 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Historically my team has never ended a game early because we were getting beat so bad.

I guess if I was an ODU fan I would cringe every time I heard "North Carolina."

historically, we have never been 0-9 and 0-10

Think about how many 0-9 and 0-10 teams there have been over the years.

All of them at least finished the season and the games they were playing.

Judging by the character at ODU, I would guess you guys would just shorten the season if you were that bad.
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(08-07-2016 01:22 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  Back on topic (sorta), I fully expect MT to be ready to make some news when all this starts really getting going. We are getting things going all at once and that will be a major benefit wherever we may end up. Football stadium expansion/renovation project is huge, along with an IPF. Admin realizes what could happen and they are kicking it up. No repeats of last time's stumbling and pass over.

Plus a recent win in the NCAA Tournament. You guys should also have a big season this year in football.

Like I said, MTSU has earned the right to be in this discussion.
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(08-07-2016 01:38 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 01:22 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  Back on topic (sorta), I fully expect MT to be ready to make some news when all this starts really getting going. We are getting things going all at once and that will be a major benefit wherever we may end up. Football stadium expansion/renovation project is huge, along with an IPF. Admin realizes what could happen and they are kicking it up. No repeats of last time's stumbling and pass over.

Plus a recent win in the NCAA Tournament. You guys should also have a big season this year in football.

Like I said, MTSU has earned the right to be in this discussion.

My only "gray area" is fan support. But that should improve this year, especially if we have the type of season we're expecting for football. MBB will get a boost from the tournament and WBB is stellar, we open the home slate with a top five team in Louisville. Checking all the boxes... set to go and jump right in if it happens to work out that way or be strong and a leader if we stay.
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(08-07-2016 01:37 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 01:00 PM)ODUguy1999 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 12:55 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Historically my team has never ended a game early because we were getting beat so bad.

I guess if I was an ODU fan I would cringe every time I heard "North Carolina."

historically, we have never been 0-9 and 0-10

Think about how many 0-9 and 0-10 teams there have been over the years.

All of them at least finished the season and the games they were playing.

Judging by the character at ODU, I would guess you guys would just shorten the season if you were that bad.

There's been plenty of teams that had to resort to academic fraud and buying players too but ODU isn't one of them. If you want to bring up character.
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(08-07-2016 02:20 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 01:37 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 01:00 PM)ODUguy1999 Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 12:55 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Historically my team has never ended a game early because we were getting beat so bad.

I guess if I was an ODU fan I would cringe every time I heard "North Carolina."

historically, we have never been 0-9 and 0-10

Think about how many 0-9 and 0-10 teams there have been over the years.

All of them at least finished the season and the games they were playing.

Judging by the character at ODU, I would guess you guys would just shorten the season if you were that bad.

There's been plenty of teams that had to resort to academic fraud and buying players too but ODU isn't one of them. If you want to bring up character.
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Let's not act "holier than thou".
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