(09-28-2016 02:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (09-28-2016 01:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: (09-28-2016 11:07 AM)MplsBison Wrote: Of course it's viable. It would be P too, based on CFP payout tiers. Because all that stuff is based on football strength.
Where that conference would "fail" is only in getting a conference network, the same issue Big 12 has now.
If it isn't financially viable then it isn't viable. A conference of just Texas and Oklahoma doesn't work because they can't generate the revenue necessary to keep everyone together. It'd be the exact same problems the Big 12 has now, only magnified even further by reducing their footprint.
The Big 12 is currently making the 3rd most money among the P5 conferences with ... just Texas and Oklahoma basically generating the revenue.
the problem with the "all Texas" model or the "mostly Texas" model is similar to the issue that would come from the Big 10 going to 10 conference games or really the Big 12 and the PAC 12 playing 9 conference games
your conference feeds upon itself too much
in the case of an "all Texas conference" or a "mostly Texas conference" if they played a very limited number of conference games and played a great deal of OOC games it could work for a while
but over time when you play too many conference games or when you have too many schools from the same state (and especially combined with too many conference games) you get into a situation where there is a sifting of teams from top to bottom and it becomes ever more difficult for those bottom teams to ever climb out of the bottom and have even a decent season
in the case of a single state focused conference it is because you get too many programs that basically offer the same thing and all the more so now when so many athletes care little about the actual education
what would make Texas Tech different from OkState they are both pretty large public universities in smaller cities with similar degree offerings only OkState happens to be the land grant (no athlete cares about that)
what makes SMU, TCU and Baylor (or Rice) different other than Baylor is in a smaller town compared to the other three, but Baylor is not far from any of the larger metro areas to go get a few pounds of weed and a gun on the bye week
really what makes dem coogs doh, UT, OU and even Texas Tech and OkState all that different other than UT has much better academics and OkState and Texas Tech are further away from larger metro areas
so over time as your programs sift to winners and losers well recruits go to the winners and avoid the losers and the more they avoid the losers the harder it is to climb back out and the more those teams even lose OOC games
and as that all starts to rot it starts to drag down the programs that are at the top as well because most athletes do not want to play for the winner of the losers and recruits just avoid your conference all together
it is what would happen to a 10 conference game Big 10.......possibly tOSU might be able to keep it rolling, but the rest will watch top recruits move away in droves as they have no interest in being 9-3 against a mass of 1-11 and 2-10 Big 10 teams getting throttled 10 times a season in the Big 10
some will ask well what makes a difference when you spread teams out for the Big 12
and the difference is like the Big 8 compared to the SWC where the Big 8 consistently had more teams ranked year in and year out than the SWC
and the reason was with those teams spread out you still have the factor of athletes that will play for the "state team" or one of ONLY two state teams so those programs have an easier time keeping their players home
you get a much more diverse offering of programs Colorado feasted on Texas recruits looking to get to the mountains especially as the SWC dropped off further and further
you have the factor of kids not wanting to travel away from home and being able to stay home and play for a team that has a chance to be a winner Vs a program that has been shoved to the bottom to stay there
then you have the factor of kids that WANT to get away from home, but they can go away from home AND still come home to play by staying in the conference instead of their only real chance to get away from home is to also go outside the conference
when you limit your overall footprint you limit the choices for your recruits in overall diversity of opportunity and when you do that you open them up to looking outside the conference at a much higher rate and then you lose more of them and your sifted to the bottom programs never recover and your conference rots