Rumor is that ACCNetwork will replace ESPNNEWS

(07-19-2016 09:30 AM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 09:18 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  IMO this announcement does 2 things, it shows the Big12 presidents and AD’s that their inability to make a decision on expansion has painted them into a corner. Their inability to come to a consensus has limited their options to the G5, BYU, and in an extremely long shot Arizona and Arizona State, the ACC schools are now officially off the table.

The second thing is it should force the Big12 to decide on expansion once and for all and immediately invite who they feel brings the most value. If you’re an AAC school looking for an invitation I would say based on this latest development it’s now or never.

Even with that said, with or without expansion the Big12 is ripe for the poaching, not unlike the Big East from a few years back. IMO if they don't do something quickly to build a layer of stability their days as a power conference are numbered (until Texas and or Oklahoma bolt).

I agree. I think ESPN just played the B12. The B12 needs to make a bold move or prepare to be carved up. They can expand by 4, get a $1B dollar boost for the rest of the current contract, give the new schools reduced shares, and all current members would get a raise. They can then focus on laying the groundwork for a network and preparing to negotiate their next TV deal.

I agree. Or they continue to allow Texas and to some extent Oklahoma hold the political clout to influence member votes against expansion with G5 programs or BYU (because we all know Texas is in favor of expansion as long as it’s with a P5 program, which the door is now shut on). That will allow an easy exit for those 2 schools to the SEC, BIG or PAC12. That’s been my contention all along, that this has been a power play between those 2 schools giving Texas and Oklahoma an easy out with the public spin of “doing what’s best for the university based on the instability of the conference”.

(07-19-2016 09:39 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Rumor is that ACCNetwork will replace ESPNNEWS

So it will replace our AAC network?

(07-19-2016 03:48 AM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  This is a great sign that espn is planning to do something substantial with us in our next contact. They are going to need decently rated content to replace those acc games. Is this where our markets and on field performance comes into play?

I'm not sure the amount of impact it'll have. Most of the content will be the syndicated games and games that would go to ESPN3.


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(07-19-2016 07:00 AM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  Well it has to. ACC time slots have to be filled and there's only one conference left with worthwhile east coast based content. Now has espn chosen the ACC over the big12 the way the did with the big East, Idk? The writing is on the wall for the big12. They are a dead conference walking now and guess what they can't fill those slots either. They either hold there noses and expand now with a decent sized eastern wing (4-6 teams) or die. Personally I hope Aresco goes all in now for deal big enough to require a gor (12-14 mil with yearly bumps). Then sit back and wait for big12 refuges .

They had no choice. Either do the ACC Network or pay $45 million a year extra without making the network.


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(07-19-2016 09:50 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 03:48 AM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  This is a great sign that espn is planning to do something substantial with us in our next contact. They are going to need decently rated content to replace those acc games. Is this where our markets and on field performance comes into play?

I'm not sure the amount of impact it'll have. Most of the content will be the syndicated games and games that would go to ESPN3.


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Just a thought, could the AAC replace the ACC as Raycom's TV Partner? I only see ESPN getting more ACC Content since the Raycom and RSN will likely now go to the ACC Network. Please note, not saying AAC will not be on ESPN but the holes in the TV areas that the AAC could fill may not be entirely in the ESPN area but in other areas. Appears Raycom will be looking for content when the next TV deal is signed.

(07-19-2016 07:00 AM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  Well it has to. ACC time slots have to be filled and there's only one conference left with worthwhile east coast based content. Now has espn chosen the ACC over the big12 the way the did with the big East, Idk? The writing is on the wall for the big12. They are a dead conference walking now and guess what they can't fill those slots either. They either hold there noses and expand now with a decent sized eastern wing (4-6 teams) or die. Personally I hope Aresco goes all in now for deal big enough to require a gor (12-14 mil with yearly bumps). Then sit back and wait for big12 refuges .

I think I speak for most AAC fans here when I say that I would not be in favor of a GOR for our conference as long as the conference is still considered one of the "G5". Unless the other "power" conferences are going to include the AAC at the big boys table (and they are not), then a GOR is a nonstarter.

However, if a miracle happens and the AAC becomes part of the power structure, then I could get behind it. The AAC is underrated and has a lot of quality schools that are working hard to make their mark on the athletic (and academic) landscape. I would rather be part of a power AAC with schools that think and plan big than be a part of a power Big 12 where nobody can ever agree on anything and inaction is slowly leading to paralysis and death.

(07-19-2016 10:05 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 09:50 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 03:48 AM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  This is a great sign that espn is planning to do something substantial with us in our next contact. They are going to need decently rated content to replace those acc games. Is this where our markets and on field performance comes into play?

I'm not sure the amount of impact it'll have. Most of the content will be the syndicated games and games that would go to ESPN3.


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Just a thought, could the AAC replace the ACC as Raycom's TV Partner? I only see ESPN getting more ACC Content since the Raycom and RSN will likely now go to the ACC Network. Please note, not saying AAC will not be on ESPN but the holes in the TV areas that the AAC could fill may not be entirely in the ESPN area but in other areas. Appears Raycom will be looking for content when the next TV deal is signed.

I think they drop college altogether and the employees move to ACCN. If they stick with it it'll be MAC, Sun Belt, AAC or a mixture of all three.


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Am I missing something? Isn't the whole point of a network is to move content off the main channels in order to start a separate revenue stream largely paid for by a captive consumer.

(07-19-2016 08:28 AM)L-yes Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:16 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:49 AM)Denny Crum Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Swofford has been trying for the last several years to get a real ACC TV Network with ESPN, who actually said they would start one by 2016 or would pay ESPN millions of $$ as a penalty (well, ESPN never started one up)...and now ESPN & Swofford are just kicking the can down the road till 2019.

If ESPN didn't want to start up an ACC TV Network prior to losing MILLIONS of subscribers over the last few years...I don't see ESPN starting up a real ACC TV Network in 2019 after ESPN loses millions more paying customers.

Wait till the fine print gets released...as I'm sure ESPN will promise another payment to the ACC if/when they don't start up a real linear ACC TV Channel by 2019.

Odds are it will be cheaper for ESPN to pay another penalty for not starting up the network by 2019 in exchange for extending the ACC deal will 2036.

The ACC schools would not have extended the GOR if that was the case. The ACC network will be starting digitally this August(which is the future anyway). The linear channel WILL begin in 2019 maybe sooner. The big 12 is done.

The Big 12 is done regardless of whether the ACC ever gets a channel. I think it's way too soon to say whether the linear channel "WILL" happen, as a whole lot can happen before 2019. The press release alone and partnership with ESPN on the online platform is enough of a win to cement the ACC as the 4th power conference though.

It's happening. They're using the SEC/ACC networks as tent poles to support one another. They'll be housed together and have a cross-conference alliance/partnership to provide quality content for both networks across all sports. It reduces the overhead costs to produce both through consolidation and geography. Think of the NFL or pro league models. Imagine the AFC/NFC. This is the direction things are moving.

That is patently ridiculous, lol. The acc is trying to stave off poaching. When the SEC is making 30-50 million more per team they will take FSU and Clemson. You guys crack me up. The acc network will be like a public access cable channel compared to the SEC network. Youve gone full retard if you think the SEC is gonna dilute itself with the acc or help them with a tent pole. You are gonna get a pole though of this you can be assured.

Lol @ acc fan boys.

Why would the ACC deal lead to more of their games on espn or espn2

(07-19-2016 10:30 AM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  Why would the ACC deal lead to more of their games on espn or espn2

It won't. It also likely won't lead to less. Finally, it definitely won't help the AAC get the 12-14 million per year you suggested

For the AAC I would think it has the potential to move games from the lesser ESPN channels up the pecking order to ESPN and ESPN 2 as more ACC content is shifted to their own network.

As far as leading to a more lucrative TV contract that’s all about supply, demand, timing and which networks are willing to bid against ESPN for the AAC rights. Only time will tell.

The AAC should see more money from this when there contract comes up and is the AAC is smart they will also talk to NBCSN..

(07-19-2016 11:31 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The AAC should see more money from this when there contract comes up and is the AAC is smart they will also talk to NBCSN..

LOL. NBCSN provided the incredibly generous offer of 2 million per team which ESPN had a right of first refusal of. I'd do everything to stay away from NBCSN in the next round of negotiations if I was Aresco. They've done enough.

(07-19-2016 11:30 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  For the AAC I would think it has the potential to move games from the lesser ESPN channels up the pecking order to ESPN and ESPN 2 as more ACC content is shifted to their own network.

As far as leading to a more lucrative TV contract that’s all about supply, demand, timing and which networks are willing to bid against ESPN for the AAC rights. Only time will tell.

^This^

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(07-19-2016 11:42 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 11:31 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The AAC should see more money from this when there contract comes up and is the AAC is smart they will also talk to NBCSN..

LOL. NBCSN provided the incredibly generous offer of 2 million per team which ESPN had a right of first refusal of. I'd do everything to stay away from NBCSN in the next round of negotiations if I was Aresco. They've done enough.

Plus playing on a "dead" channel means less exposure. To me NBC has to double the offer by ESPN to make it worth it (at least). Fox Sports to me would need to offer 75% more.

I'm good with staying with ESPN if we can at least get the money in the $4-5 million range.

(07-19-2016 11:59 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 11:42 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 11:31 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The AAC should see more money from this when there contract comes up and is the AAC is smart they will also talk to NBCSN..

LOL. NBCSN provided the incredibly generous offer of 2 million per team which ESPN had a right of first refusal of. I'd do everything to stay away from NBCSN in the next round of negotiations if I was Aresco. They've done enough.

Plus playing on a "dead" channel means less exposure. To me NBC has to double the offer by ESPN to make it worth it (at least). Fox Sports to me would need to offer 75% more.

I'm good with staying with ESPN if we can at least get the money in the $4-5 million range.

Leaving ESPN would be a major setback for potential recruits. I'd take that $5 million and like it.

This ACC news dashes any Big 12 hopes of raiding the ACC. I would not be surprised to see them grab 6. They could take Boise, BYU, UConn, UC, UCF and Houston and kill both the MWC and The American.

I don't think we are going to get $4-5 million on ESPN, but if we do I absolutely agree that the best move is to stay at ESPN. I think the question becomes a lot tougher when/if ESPN lowballs the conference again.