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Shot a 1911 colt, a s&w 357, and a double nine .22 today.

No one shot in sherekhan land.
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(07-04-2016 10:56 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Shot a 1911 colt, a s&w 357, and a double nine .22 today.

No one shot in sherekhan land.

you didn't shot Bearcats #1? that is a shame
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(07-04-2016 03:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Even one shot is awful, but what makes you think all those people you listed don't care? It certainly looks like you are taking others suffering and trying to exploit it to score political points. Sad

Funny.....don't recall you calling out Lazytom, gsu, johnnyzero, etc. when they were taking the suffering of the folks in Orlando and trying to score political points.

I wonder why you wouldn't call out the leftists when they do it but jump on a conservative when they do, what with you being a moderate and all.
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(07-04-2016 10:07 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:43 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:56 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:40 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Then maybe instead of worrying about what people post on here you can spend that time educating your idiotic fellow leftists who insist on using these wrong talking points. We on the right have tried to educate them but they refuse to listen. Maybe coming from a fellow leftist they'll get it and cease wasting everybody's time with the same old tired rhetoric.

One problem is that you insist on putting everyone in one of two boxes, leftist or right-wing. Most people don't fit that simply into one or the other and you can't seem to wrap your mind around that reality.

When YOU want to take my hard earned money and give it to someone who didn't earn it then you are a leftist.

Exhibit A 04-cheers

No, he's exactly right. That is what defines the left. Takers. Do you want to take from me and give to someone who did not earn what I have labored to produce? Then you are of the left. That's really all it boils down to.


I drive it to "incentive"

if not, then why not be left....

hence, Trump

edit: I only see economics in an election year.....and just got off the horn with a gay bud o' mine.....

I don't give two fks about the social aspect.....hence, being a centrist/atheist and why I abhor the rnc....they're godddammed idiots....
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(07-04-2016 10:07 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:43 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:56 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:40 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Then maybe instead of worrying about what people post on here you can spend that time educating your idiotic fellow leftists who insist on using these wrong talking points. We on the right have tried to educate them but they refuse to listen. Maybe coming from a fellow leftist they'll get it and cease wasting everybody's time with the same old tired rhetoric.

One problem is that you insist on putting everyone in one of two boxes, leftist or right-wing. Most people don't fit that simply into one or the other and you can't seem to wrap your mind around that reality.

When YOU want to take my hard earned money and give it to someone who didn't earn it then you are a leftist.

Exhibit A 04-cheers

No, he's exactly right. That is what defines the left. Takers. Do you want to take from me and give to someone who did not earn what I have labored to produce? Then you are of the left. That's really all it boils down to.

Exhibit B
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(07-04-2016 11:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 03:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Even one shot is awful, but what makes you think all those people you listed don't care? It certainly looks like you are taking others suffering and trying to exploit it to score political points. Sad

Funny.....don't recall you calling out Lazytom, gsu, johnnyzero, etc. when they were taking the suffering of the folks in Orlando and trying to score political points.

I wonder why you wouldn't call out the leftists when they do it but jump on a conservative when they do, what with you being a moderate and all.
/sarcasm

Are you keeping a running count?
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(07-04-2016 10:07 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:43 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:56 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:40 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Then maybe instead of worrying about what people post on here you can spend that time educating your idiotic fellow leftists who insist on using these wrong talking points. We on the right have tried to educate them but they refuse to listen. Maybe coming from a fellow leftist they'll get it and cease wasting everybody's time with the same old tired rhetoric.

One problem is that you insist on putting everyone in one of two boxes, leftist or right-wing. Most people don't fit that simply into one or the other and you can't seem to wrap your mind around that reality.

When YOU want to take my hard earned money and give it to someone who didn't earn it then you are a leftist.

Exhibit A 04-cheers

No, he's exactly right. That is what defines the left. Takers. Do you want to take from me and give to someone who did not earn what I have labored to produce? Then you are of the left. That's really all it boils down to.

It's really not all it boils down to.

I consider myself right of center with my economic views. I just happen to be so far left on social issues, I find myself voting with my conscience and that usually ends up being the left leaning candidate.

I would love a good, centrist Republican candidate I could get behind. As much as I might disagree with them on issues like abortion, guys like Huntsman and Kasich come to mind. The 2016 election was sitting there on a tee for a guy like Kasich. He wanted to talk about the economy and bringing both sides together. Instead, the right got behind Cruz (so far right it's scary) and Trump (the only guy people dislike more then Hillary) and my vote is going to the left yet again.

Not everybody "to the left" fits in to the little box you want to put them in.
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(07-05-2016 05:58 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 10:07 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:43 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:56 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  One problem is that you insist on putting everyone in one of two boxes, leftist or right-wing. Most people don't fit that simply into one or the other and you can't seem to wrap your mind around that reality.

When YOU want to take my hard earned money and give it to someone who didn't earn it then you are a leftist.

Exhibit A 04-cheers

No, he's exactly right. That is what defines the left. Takers. Do you want to take from me and give to someone who did not earn what I have labored to produce? Then you are of the left. That's really all it boils down to.

It's really not all it boils down to.

I consider myself right of center with my economic views. I just happen to be so far left on social issues, I find myself voting with my conscience and that usually ends up being the left leaning candidate.

I would love a good, centrist Republican candidate I could get behind. As much as I might disagree with them on issues like abortion, guys like Huntsman and Kasich come to mind. The 2016 election was sitting there on a tee for a guy like Kasich. He wanted to talk about the economy and bringing both sides together. Instead, the right got behind Cruz (so far right it's scary) and Trump (the only guy people dislike more then Hillary) and my vote is going to the left yet again.

Not everybody "to the left" fits in to the little box you want to put them in.

hence, Trump....

I don't understand how some only see the fake tan and swoop up top with that feller....

he is exactly that....

being a centrist, I can dig what you are saying....

and his position on immigration is more economically motivated when you drive down to the 'why'...

having said that, if you think the social side means more, go for it....
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(07-05-2016 05:58 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 10:07 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:43 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:56 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  One problem is that you insist on putting everyone in one of two boxes, leftist or right-wing. Most people don't fit that simply into one or the other and you can't seem to wrap your mind around that reality.

When YOU want to take my hard earned money and give it to someone who didn't earn it then you are a leftist.

Exhibit A 04-cheers

No, he's exactly right. That is what defines the left. Takers. Do you want to take from me and give to someone who did not earn what I have labored to produce? Then you are of the left. That's really all it boils down to.

It's really not all it boils down to.

I consider myself right of center with my economic views. I just happen to be so far left on social issues, I find myself voting with my conscience and that usually ends up being the left leaning candidate.

I would love a good, centrist Republican candidate I could get behind. As much as I might disagree with them on issues like abortion, guys like Huntsman and Kasich come to mind. The 2016 election was sitting there on a tee for a guy like Kasich. He wanted to talk about the economy and bringing both sides together. Instead, the right got behind Cruz (so far right it's scary) and Trump (the only guy people dislike more then Hillary) and my vote is going to the left yet again.

Not everybody "to the left" fits in to the little box you want to put them in.

Most talk the same type of platitudes but vote based on hereditary predisposition.

i was brought up in a union household and am still a registered democrat. I often vote democrat in local but the democrat party is a freak show at the national level. We keep getting the corrupt machine members and complex bozos like Gore and Kerry who live in a parallel universe.

I thought many of Sanders's ideas were idiotic but I would have accepted him as president because I trust him and believe he means what he says. Hillary is a lying sack of dung for sale to the highest bidder. Banana Republic.
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Public Defender Max will be busy today!
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(07-04-2016 10:07 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:43 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:56 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:40 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Then maybe instead of worrying about what people post on here you can spend that time educating your idiotic fellow leftists who insist on using these wrong talking points. We on the right have tried to educate them but they refuse to listen. Maybe coming from a fellow leftist they'll get it and cease wasting everybody's time with the same old tired rhetoric.

One problem is that you insist on putting everyone in one of two boxes, leftist or right-wing. Most people don't fit that simply into one or the other and you can't seem to wrap your mind around that reality.

When YOU want to take my hard earned money and give it to someone who didn't earn it then you are a leftist.

Exhibit A 04-cheers

No, he's exactly right. That is what defines the left. Takers. Do you want to take from me and give to someone who did not earn what I have labored to produce? Then you are of the left. That's really all it boils down to.

Sigh. Why is it folks on the right always act as if they're the only ones who pay taxes and it's always THEIR money and THEIR labor.

I'm lib, I lean left. I work and produce and I pay taxes.
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(07-05-2016 11:00 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  Sigh. Why is it folks on the right always act as if they're the only ones who pay taxes and it's always THEIR money and THEIR labor.

The reality is that only time a liberal reaches across the aisle tax wise is to reach into my conservative pocket for more taxes..

Most government taxation and spending, (especially in one-party cities like Minneapolis and Saint Paul and, really, in de facto one-party states like Minnesota) exists primarily to take wealth from the producing class and give it away. And they give it away not so much to people who need it as much as back to the political class.

(07-05-2016 11:00 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  I'm lib, I lean left. I work and produce and I pay taxes.

As I like to tell a certain other poster with some regularity, if there isn't enough money for the poor, or for the government, or for the growth policies you desire, you can pay more!

Please ensure your checks indicate "to support the bloated Federal Government" in the memo field.
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Plus, don't forget to file a simple 1040 and put the amount of your income, the amount of tax your owe, compute the difference, and pay at your full rate.

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Final score 64 shot but only 4 dead. Which isn't bad when you consider there were 72 homicides during June.
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64 shot and only 4 dead? That's pretty amazing.

Thank goodness democrats do not advocate free access to marksmanship programs for the underprivileged.
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(07-04-2016 04:16 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 03:55 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Even one shot is awful, but what makes you think all those people you listed don't care? It certainly looks like you are taking others suffering and trying to exploit it to score political points. Sad

Exactly. "How dare they not care about this for political reasons as I care about this exclusively for political reasons!!"

Ignoring that they're politicians... and we vote for them.

It's not 'us' giving speeches about curbing gun violence and coming up with these pointless 'solutions' that really don't solve anything.

How is it 'exclusively political' if it actually has a chance of solving the problem?

(07-05-2016 12:45 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Final score 64 shot but only 4 dead. Which isn't bad when you consider there were 72 homicides during June.


Case in point. Here you have a city with very strict gun laws... and CRIMINALS (which most of these homicides and injuries can be attributed to, since I haven't seen a terrorist or 'separatist' or Klan member or 'crazy' person attack there in the news... maybe I missed it?) still have guns.

Of course leftists will claim that they are buying guns from other states, and that may be true... but since those other states don't have the same problems, OBVIOUSLY it's not about the access to guns, but about what criminals DO with them.

When politicians start focusing on stopping criminals with guns, THEN it will cease to be 'exploitation' of an event. Until then, that is all it is.... and until they do that, I'll continue to argue (and be right) that their political views (regardless of which side they come from) are the problem.

Yes, that's a political position to take, but it isn't PURELY political. It actually portends to solve the problem
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(07-05-2016 11:00 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 10:07 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:43 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 07:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-04-2016 04:56 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  One problem is that you insist on putting everyone in one of two boxes, leftist or right-wing. Most people don't fit that simply into one or the other and you can't seem to wrap your mind around that reality.

When YOU want to take my hard earned money and give it to someone who didn't earn it then you are a leftist.

Exhibit A 04-cheers

No, he's exactly right. That is what defines the left. Takers. Do you want to take from me and give to someone who did not earn what I have labored to produce? Then you are of the left. That's really all it boils down to.

Sigh. Why is it folks on the right always act as if they're the only ones who pay taxes and it's always THEIR money and THEIR labor.

I'm lib, I lean left. I work and produce and I pay taxes.

Where did I ever say that? What I said was, do you want to take from me the fruits of my labor, and give it to someone who did not labor to produce that wealth? What you want to do with the fruits of your own labor is none of my business. You dictating to me what I do with MY fruits is the point of the matter. THAT is what makes you a leftist or not.
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hooray for liberal gun control!!!
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If they got rid of Englewood the crime would probably be cut in half.

The number killed was actually less than last year, though I don't know how the number shot compares.
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(07-05-2016 12:45 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Final score 64 shot but only 4 dead. Which isn't bad when you consider there were 72 homicides during June.

So they are bad marksmen too
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Where did I ever say that? What I said was, do you want to take from me the fruits of my labor, and give it to someone who did not labor to produce that wealth? What you want to do with the fruits of your own labor is none of my business. You dictating to me what I do with MY fruits is the point of the matter. THAT is what makes you a leftist or not.
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This might not be the same but I have a very close friend who is a total obama loving, Demoncratic loving Lib who just hates to tip in a restaurant. It's puzzling because that's what his party advocates. Give to others…but with someone else's money.
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