(07-05-2016 04:24 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:40 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 09:03 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 08:59 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Obviously Bison is afraid of Texas. Texas is coming to the B1G. Heck, highly placed people that cover Texas say Texas will head to the B1G.

Do you have a link for that?

his Arse is the link.

Must be the place where you get your conference realignment thoughts from. Same intelligence level.

You start a thread entitled "I'm confident Texas will end up in the B1G", knowing full well it will elicit negative responses and or people questioning you about your source(s). Then when someone does, you attack his/her intellect.

My good sir. I'd state simply that your thread title and posts within it make you out to be either an idiot or a charlatan. Either of which leaves you ill suited to judge someone's level of intellect.

There are sources out there that have said Texas to the B1G if people are willing to take the time to look.

I'm very confident of Texas to the B1G.

(07-05-2016 04:31 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:24 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:40 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 09:03 AM)XLance Wrote:  Do you have a link for that?

his Arse is the link.

Must be the place where you get your conference realignment thoughts from. Same intelligence level.

You start a thread entitled "I'm confident Texas will end up in the B1G", knowing full well it will elicit negative responses and or people questioning you about your source(s). Then when someone does, you attack his/her intellect.

My good sir. I'd state simply that your thread title and posts within it make you out to be either an idiot or a charlatan. Either of which leaves you ill suited to judge someone's level of intellect.

There are sources out there that have said Texas to the B1G if people are willing to take the time to look.

I'm very confident of Texas to the B1G.

Why should someone produce a source for your post. You made the post asserting it to be genuine, so it's up to you to support it with a source. You have challenged others to do so in the past, yet here you are failing to do the same.

I'll state it here for you, you have no source.

If Oklahoma, Texas and Kansas leaves? Why not break the other Big 12 schools like half goes to AAC and the other to the MWC and make both those conferences as Power conferences?

Kansas State, Texas Tech, Baylor to the MWC.
Iowa State, TCU, West Virginia and Oklahoma State to the AAC.
UTEP, BYU or North Dakota State could be added to the MWC to even out.

(07-05-2016 04:37 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:31 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:24 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:40 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  his Arse is the link.

Must be the place where you get your conference realignment thoughts from. Same intelligence level.

You start a thread entitled "I'm confident Texas will end up in the B1G", knowing full well it will elicit negative responses and or people questioning you about your source(s). Then when someone does, you attack his/her intellect.

My good sir. I'd state simply that your thread title and posts within it make you out to be either an idiot or a charlatan. Either of which leaves you ill suited to judge someone's level of intellect.

There are sources out there that have said Texas to the B1G if people are willing to take the time to look.

I'm very confident of Texas to the B1G.

Why should someone produce a source for your post. You made the post asserting it to be genuine, so it's up to you to support it with a source. You have challenged others to do so in the past, yet here you are failing to do the same.

I'll state it here for you, you have no source.

I will post some articles and to get it started. Plenty out there. Whenever someone asks for a tweet or article when I start threads like this it never ends well for the other person.

Just to get this started for "sources"...

Big 10 Will Expand to 20 eventually – Texas and Oklahoma Will Be Among Them

http://kentsterling.com/2013/10/01/big-1...mong-them/

It’s been my theory that Texas would be selected by the Big Ten as one of the final two schools as the Big Ten becomes the Big 16.

http://kentsterling.com/2013/07/25/texas...expansion/

Texas to the Big 10, I could easily see - Oklahoma may be a little less.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...r-pastures

This is just an opinion article

http://thebiglead.com/2016/05/12/texas-s...e-big-ten/

(07-05-2016 05:06 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:37 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:31 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:24 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:40 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Must be the place where you get your conference realignment thoughts from. Same intelligence level.

You start a thread entitled "I'm confident Texas will end up in the B1G", knowing full well it will elicit negative responses and or people questioning you about your source(s). Then when someone does, you attack his/her intellect.

My good sir. I'd state simply that your thread title and posts within it make you out to be either an idiot or a charlatan. Either of which leaves you ill suited to judge someone's level of intellect.

There are sources out there that have said Texas to the B1G if people are willing to take the time to look.

I'm very confident of Texas to the B1G.

Why should someone produce a source for your post. You made the post asserting it to be genuine, so it's up to you to support it with a source. You have challenged others to do so in the past, yet here you are failing to do the same.

I'll state it here for you, you have no source.

I will post some articles and to get it started. Plenty out there. Whenever someone asks for a tweet or article when I start threads like this it never ends well for the other person.

Just to get this started for "sources"...

Big 10 Will Expand to 20 eventually – Texas and Oklahoma Will Be Among Them

http://kentsterling.com/2013/10/01/big-1...mong-them/

It’s been my theory that Texas would be selected by the Big Ten as one of the final two schools as the Big Ten becomes the Big 16.

http://kentsterling.com/2013/07/25/texas...expansion/

Texas to the Big 10, I could easily see - Oklahoma may be a little less.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...r-pastures

This is just an opinion article

http://thebiglead.com/2016/05/12/texas-s...e-big-ten/

Excuse me sir. these are all theoretical opinion pieces. "If we are talking about BIG expanding to 20 schools,". The first two are from 2013 and they are all simple speculations or interpretations of a second parties purported comments. None of them state that Texas has plans to move to the B1G or that the B1G has plans to pursue Texas for membership.

Please provide a source that stipulates that Texas and or the B1G have some sort of dialog toward this end. Opinion articles and blogs don't count.

I'll add that while I'm certain that I'll win the Lottery, I simply can't tell you the amount of said winnings.

Dodds is a media source. Clearly states he can see Texas going to the B1G. The other guy is a media guy as well that clearly states he can see Texas in the B1G and even goes over it. The other article is just an opinion article.

Chip Brown and others have said Texas to the B1G. Heck, the Texas AD mistakenly talked about the B1G during the Big 12 meetings two months ago and had to correct himself.

(07-05-2016 05:12 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  Please provide a source that stipulates that Texas and or the B1G have some sort of dialog toward this end. Opinion articles and blogs don't count.

To be fair, any conversation between the Big 10 and any Big XII school would almost have to be secretive due to the terms of the the Big XII's GOR, if I remember correctly. I believe there are strong penalties for negotiating with another conference while the current GOR is in effect. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. However, I am sure private or back channel conversations have taken place by Big XII schools with several conferences or their representatives.

That said, there is no substantive reason to think that Texas is making plans to leave the Big XII for any conference. All of this is wistful speculation on the part of one fan and we took the bait. He got an multi-page thread about something he thinks will happen. Miko would be proud.

(07-05-2016 06:07 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 05:12 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  Please provide a source that stipulates that Texas and or the B1G have some sort of dialog toward this end. Opinion articles and blogs don't count.

To be fair, any conversation between the Big 10 and any Big XII school would almost have to be secretive due to the terms of the the Big XII's GOR, if I remember correctly. I believe there are strong penalties for negotiating with another conference while the current GOR is in effect. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. However, I am sure private or back channel conversations have taken place by Big XII schools with several conferences or their representatives.

That said, there is no substantive reason to think that Texas is making plans to leave the Big XII for any conference. All of this is wistful speculation on the part of one fan and we took the bait. He got an multi-page thread about something he thinks will happen. Miko would be proud.

Verbal offers are made through back channels. No formal offers are out to any Big 12 school right now. Without a formal offer there is no guarantee landing spot for any Big 12 school.

The reason why Oklahoma isn't walking out the door tomorrow is due to them not having a formal offer from any other P5 right now since Oklahoma hasn't done anything formal to get the formal offer. Oklahoma has verbal offers, but a verbal isn't enough to walk out the door. It is up to the administration at Oklahoma and Texas to get things started.

(07-05-2016 05:12 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 05:06 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:37 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:31 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:24 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  You start a thread entitled "I'm confident Texas will end up in the B1G", knowing full well it will elicit negative responses and or people questioning you about your source(s). Then when someone does, you attack his/her intellect.

My good sir. I'd state simply that your thread title and posts within it make you out to be either an idiot or a charlatan. Either of which leaves you ill suited to judge someone's level of intellect.

There are sources out there that have said Texas to the B1G if people are willing to take the time to look.

I'm very confident of Texas to the B1G.

Why should someone produce a source for your post. You made the post asserting it to be genuine, so it's up to you to support it with a source. You have challenged others to do so in the past, yet here you are failing to do the same.

I'll state it here for you, you have no source.

I will post some articles and to get it started. Plenty out there. Whenever someone asks for a tweet or article when I start threads like this it never ends well for the other person.

Just to get this started for "sources"...

Big 10 Will Expand to 20 eventually – Texas and Oklahoma Will Be Among Them

http://kentsterling.com/2013/10/01/big-1...mong-them/

It’s been my theory that Texas would be selected by the Big Ten as one of the final two schools as the Big Ten becomes the Big 16.

http://kentsterling.com/2013/07/25/texas...expansion/

Texas to the Big 10, I could easily see - Oklahoma may be a little less.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...r-pastures

This is just an opinion article

http://thebiglead.com/2016/05/12/texas-s...e-big-ten/

Excuse me sir. these are all theoretical opinion pieces. "If we are talking about BIG expanding to 20 schools,". The first two are from 2013 and they are all simple speculations or interpretations of a second parties purported comments. None of them state that Texas has plans to move to the B1G or that the B1G has plans to pursue Texas for membership.

Please provide a source that stipulates that Texas and or the B1G have some sort of dialog toward this end. Opinion articles and blogs don't count.

I'll add that while I'm certain that I'll win the Lottery, I simply can't tell you the amount of said winnings.

Feb. 11th 2010

There have been preliminary exchanges between the Big Ten and Texas,” the source told the Journal-World on Wednesday. “People will deny that, but it’s accurate.”

Granted this has been awhile back. I don't have a clue what Texas will do. With that said you can bet your bottom dollar that Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas have had secret conversations with several conferences. The thing that makes me wonder the most is the length of the new BIG media deal. Is it about expansion or getting another media deal done before the other conferences do?

(07-05-2016 04:31 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:24 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:40 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 03:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 09:03 AM)XLance Wrote:  Do you have a link for that?

his Arse is the link.

Must be the place where you get your conference realignment thoughts from. Same intelligence level.

You start a thread entitled "I'm confident Texas will end up in the B1G", knowing full well it will elicit negative responses and or people questioning you about your source(s). Then when someone does, you attack his/her intellect.

My good sir. I'd state simply that your thread title and posts within it make you out to be either an idiot or a charlatan. Either of which leaves you ill suited to judge someone's level of intellect.

There are sources out there that have said Texas to the B1G if people are willing to take the time to look.

I'm very confident of Texas to the B1G.

But, the thing is, nobody cares how confident "you" are of Texas to the Big Ten.

You are just a message board poster, like the rest of us gobshites.

(07-05-2016 09:03 PM)Hoosier Hysteria 1 Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 05:12 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 05:06 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:37 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 04:31 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  There are sources out there that have said Texas to the B1G if people are willing to take the time to look.

I'm very confident of Texas to the B1G.

Why should someone produce a source for your post. You made the post asserting it to be genuine, so it's up to you to support it with a source. You have challenged others to do so in the past, yet here you are failing to do the same.

I'll state it here for you, you have no source.

I will post some articles and to get it started. Plenty out there. Whenever someone asks for a tweet or article when I start threads like this it never ends well for the other person.

Just to get this started for "sources"...

Big 10 Will Expand to 20 eventually – Texas and Oklahoma Will Be Among Them

http://kentsterling.com/2013/10/01/big-1...mong-them/

It’s been my theory that Texas would be selected by the Big Ten as one of the final two schools as the Big Ten becomes the Big 16.

http://kentsterling.com/2013/07/25/texas...expansion/

Texas to the Big 10, I could easily see - Oklahoma may be a little less.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...r-pastures

This is just an opinion article

http://thebiglead.com/2016/05/12/texas-s...e-big-ten/

Excuse me sir. these are all theoretical opinion pieces. "If we are talking about BIG expanding to 20 schools,". The first two are from 2013 and they are all simple speculations or interpretations of a second parties purported comments. None of them state that Texas has plans to move to the B1G or that the B1G has plans to pursue Texas for membership.

Please provide a source that stipulates that Texas and or the B1G have some sort of dialog toward this end. Opinion articles and blogs don't count.

I'll add that while I'm certain that I'll win the Lottery, I simply can't tell you the amount of said winnings.

Feb. 11th 2010

There have been preliminary exchanges between the Big Ten and Texas,” the source told the Journal-World on Wednesday. “People will deny that, but it’s accurate.”

Granted this has been awhile back. I don't have a clue what Texas will do. With that said you can bet your bottom dollar that Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas have had secret conversations with several conferences. The thing that makes me wonder the most is the length of the new BIG media deal. Is it about expansion or getting another media deal done before the other conferences do?

Expansion leading to an even bigger media deal in 6 years. Expansion isn't done for the B1G. Get TX and the B1G will get two more major markets (Dallas and Houston)....

New York (#1)
Los Angeles (#2)
Chicago (#3)
Philadelphia (#4)
Dallas-Fort Worth (#5)
San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose (#6)
[/b]Washington, D.C. (Hagerstown) (#7)[/b]
Boston (Manchester) (#8)

Expansion with TX gets the markets. Expansion with Oklahoma gets the Tier 1 increase. Kansas would be a small bump for the basketball deal.

(07-05-2016 09:47 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Expansion with TX gets the markets. Expansion with Oklahoma gets the Tier 1 increase. Kansas would be a small bump for the basketball deal.

But Oklahoma might not be able to get in. Still have to get over the academic hurdle ... Oklahoma is basically no better than Nebraska in terms of academics, well below the norm for Big ten academics, and Nebraska had the fig-leaf of AAU membership when they were invited.

This thread reminds me of stuff some Oklahoma fans post. They talk about how they hate the Big12 because of things Texas has done. Then in the next sentence they'll say how them and Texas should leave the Big12 and go to the SEC, B1G, or PAC. Good stuff.

(07-06-2016 07:11 AM)Johnny Incognito Wrote:  This thread reminds me of stuff some Oklahoma fans post. They talk about how they hate the Big12 because of things Texas has done. Then in the next sentence they'll say how them and Texas should leave the Big12 and go to the SEC, B1G, or PAC. Good stuff.

Yep...in one sentence bash Texas and the next sentence say they can not live without them. It is pretty fun when they do that.

(07-06-2016 07:26 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 07:11 AM)Johnny Incognito Wrote:  This thread reminds me of stuff some Oklahoma fans post. They talk about how they hate the Big12 because of things Texas has done. Then in the next sentence they'll say how them and Texas should leave the Big12 and go to the SEC, B1G, or PAC. Good stuff.

Yep...in one sentence bash Texas and the next sentence say they can not live without them. It is pretty fun when they do that.

Its much like UNC and Duke. They know they're valuable but they also know that they are more valuable together vs separated.

(07-06-2016 02:48 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-05-2016 09:47 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Expansion with TX gets the markets. Expansion with Oklahoma gets the Tier 1 increase. Kansas would be a small bump for the basketball deal.

But Oklahoma might not be able to get in. Still have to get over the academic hurdle ... Oklahoma is basically no better than Nebraska in terms of academics, well below the norm for Big ten academics, and Nebraska had the fig-leaf of AAU membership when they were invited.

AAU is a preference, not a requirement.

If the time comes where all parties are in agreement, the B1G presidents will likely make the expansion happen with "franchise player" schools like Oklahoma or Florida State because while they want to have elite academic standards, the money increase of adding schools like them easily allow them to overlook that aspect. Its not like OU or FSU are academically poor either, they are both top 125 ranked schools with strong doctoral programs.

Guys, why do you continue to feed NebFan?? He's made his opinion known. He has no actual, logical argument to support his position. No quotes by anyone in power backing him up. Just other opinions, saying "wouldn't it be great if Texas was in the Big Ten?"

Maybe it would be. Maybe not.

Wouldn't it be great if the Big Ten added: Washington, Oregon, Cal, UCLA, Colorado, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, etc ???

Maybe it would be.


But we don't need a 12 page thread discussing such wistful fantasies, with zero credibility behind them!