(06-14-2016 11:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Someone on that thread just logically claimed that FIU is a program with a bigger national perception and history than ULL. If people are going to be that stupid...than that is a hard battle to make.

Truth be told I knew who FIU was LONG before I knew who ULL was. But I think that's more of a regional thing.

(06-14-2016 11:45 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 11:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Someone on that thread just logically claimed that FIU is a program with a bigger national perception and history than ULL. If people are going to be that stupid...than that is a hard battle to make.

Truth be told I knew who FIU was LONG before I knew who ULL was. But I think that's more of a regional thing.

Only because we played them in football years ago. More of our fans probably knew eho Elon and Wofford are than ULL.

(06-14-2016 11:04 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 10:13 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  I just made many of these same points over on our boards. I'm a convert. I think the SBC is every bit as good as CUSA and has the momentum. Should any one of our teams win their "body bag" (or 2, that's the big hurdle), their 2 G5's and run the table in the SBC, we will have just as good a chance to make a New Year's Day bowl than anyone else in the G5. We might as well do it from here than from the AAC, right?

Let's say the AAC stays how it is do you see Southern Miss wanting to move to the SBC for money/geographical fit?

Southern Miss is a unique property. I believe that they have a much different mindset to all this. They are conference founders, long time residents who recognize few of their new neighbors. They are most likely to only move to the AAC with the rest of their former mates or find ways to remodel and reform the home in which they live. If the AAC isnt an option, I think they will be working to find a way to make CUSA work best for those few from the "Old" 2.0 Guard. As appealing as it would be to have USM, I would predict an "airport meeting" from them before a move to the SBC.
Now, having said that, the ONLY way I see them leaving CUSA for the SBC is if 1 other team joined them. Is there one school that they are so joined to that would make them switch? Tulane and Memphis have already split. Is it LA Tech or UAB? Would either of those two ever join up with the likes of ULM, USA, and Troy? Who else is USM tied to? I don't know if there is one. For me it would be incredible to pull USM and UTSA over.

UTSA - TX St
Ark St - ULM
UL - USM
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USA - Troy
GSU - GS
CCU - App St

That gives everyone great regional rivalries with a streamlined, cohesive conference. Doubt it happens, but more fathomable then taking back any of the 5 that bailed.
What do you think? Do you think we have any chance of getting USM to move?

The more I think about it the more I like it. If we had permanent cross-rivals I'd go (and this is all in good fun):
Appalachian St vs Arkansas St - King of the Mountains, "A"lpha Award
Coastal Carolina vs ULM - Fight or Flight Trophy, Talon Trophy, Battle of the Birds
Georgia St vs UTSA - The Phoenix Cup, The Direct Flight Duel
Georgia Southern vs Louisiana - Romp in the Swamp, The Spit Cup, Grammar War, the Battle Amongst the Bugs
South Alabama vs Southern Miss - the Gulf War, the Shrimp Bowl
Troy vs Texas State - The Gritz Blitz, Clash of Maroons, the "T" Cup

(06-14-2016 11:45 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 11:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Someone on that thread just logically claimed that FIU is a program with a bigger national perception and history than ULL. If people are going to be that stupid...than that is a hard battle to make.

Truth be told I knew who FIU was LONG before I knew who ULL was. But I think that's more of a regional thing.

I had never heard of either FIU or FAU until they joined the SBC . . GaSo and App State are names that I knew well as I am a College Football fan.

(06-14-2016 01:20 PM)DoubletapWolf Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 11:45 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 11:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Someone on that thread just logically claimed that FIU is a program with a bigger national perception and history than ULL. If people are going to be that stupid...than that is a hard battle to make.

Truth be told I knew who FIU was LONG before I knew who ULL was. But I think that's more of a regional thing.

I had never heard of either FIU or FAU until they joined the SBC . . GaSo and App State are names that I knew well as I am a College Football fan.

Ditto.

(06-14-2016 01:55 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 01:20 PM)DoubletapWolf Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 11:45 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 11:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Someone on that thread just logically claimed that FIU is a program with a bigger national perception and history than ULL. If people are going to be that stupid...than that is a hard battle to make.

Truth be told I knew who FIU was LONG before I knew who ULL was. But I think that's more of a regional thing.

I had never heard of either FIU or FAU until they joined the SBC . . GaSo and App State are names that I knew well as I am a College Football fan.

Ditto.

pretty sure the only reason GS fans know about FIU was because we had a home and home series against during their transition to FBS. Some used to claim that 2nd game against FIU as our 1st FBS win. I honestly didn't know much about SBC, but when rumors started we may get a chance to move up I looked at the teams (at that time it included the F_U, MTSU, and WKU) and thought it looked like a solid conference overall and GS would be a perfect fit. Disappointing that WKU left, but after seeing how their fans are it is probably for the best.

(06-14-2016 09:51 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:29 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:03 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So CUSA loses ECU, Memphis, UCF, Houston, and Tulsa and replaces them with a lot of large media market teams that have no fan base, and people think CUSA is a good measuring stick even though the MAC just locked in a deal where their payouts go up that lasts more than 10 years?

Get real. We may get pocket change in our next TV contract, but it'll be more pocket change than what we get right now.

College athletics is a game of identity. Without exceptional branding it's difficult to get the locals on board with City U and more difficult to get the wider media markets on board. Not impossible but the networks are looking for easier quicker returns on investment. Looking through the Sun Belt and comparing to CUSA the name recognition or marketing advantage has more potential in the SB with greater reach. Media sees the G5 as little or nothing now but with exposure and effective branding the future is worth investing in. Compare the two. Significant branding advantage for the SB based on names, history, and much more definable geographical footprint. It's like a song. All the parts have to fit together perfectly to become a top 20 hit. The pieces are in place for the SB.

1. Name: The SB has three members with state in their name. CUSA has zero. Easier to grab the attention of a state. Two, arguably four directional universities with CCU and App, giving the same "regional" interest. Four in CUSA maybe five with FAU. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

2. History: GS and App alone have more football history entering the league than all recent CUSA adds combined with nine lower league national titles and slaying the giant national exposure. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

3. Definable geographic footprint: Sun Belt = more schools with less distance between schools residing in the southeast US. Given that the southeast historically produces superior football, perception is reality.

I'd heard of FIU decades ago but only because my hometown Alaska-Anchorage Seawolves played them in a home and home. Their school name was just unusual enough for me to remember them.

(06-13-2016 09:09 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  All we need is a new commissioner who knows how to promote and take advantage of the success. I want a young commissioner with a long term goal of being the commissioner of the SEC. What better accomplishment could a commissioner have on his resume than guiding the SBC to being the best G5?

This times infinity. I wish I could give u a plus 1000.

(06-14-2016 03:58 PM)airtroop Wrote:  I'd heard of FIU decades ago but only because my hometown Alaska-Anchorage Seawolves played them in a home and home. Their school name was just unusual enough for me to remember them.

Only reason I Knew of FIU was because of the Miami Brawl

(06-14-2016 03:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:51 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:29 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:03 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So CUSA loses ECU, Memphis, UCF, Houston, and Tulsa and replaces them with a lot of large media market teams that have no fan base, and people think CUSA is a good measuring stick even though the MAC just locked in a deal where their payouts go up that lasts more than 10 years?

Get real. We may get pocket change in our next TV contract, but it'll be more pocket change than what we get right now.

College athletics is a game of identity. Without exceptional branding it's difficult to get the locals on board with City U and more difficult to get the wider media markets on board. Not impossible but the networks are looking for easier quicker returns on investment. Looking through the Sun Belt and comparing to CUSA the name recognition or marketing advantage has more potential in the SB with greater reach. Media sees the G5 as little or nothing now but with exposure and effective branding the future is worth investing in. Compare the two. Significant branding advantage for the SB based on names, history, and much more definable geographical footprint. It's like a song. All the parts have to fit together perfectly to become a top 20 hit. The pieces are in place for the SB.

1. Name: The SB has three members with state in their name. CUSA has zero. Easier to grab the attention of a state. Two, arguably four directional universities with CCU and App, giving the same "regional" interest. Four in CUSA maybe five with FAU. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

2. History: GS and App alone have more football history entering the league than all recent CUSA adds combined with nine lower league national titles and slaying the giant national exposure. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

3. Definable geographic footprint: Sun Belt = more schools with less distance between schools residing in the southeast US. Given that the southeast historically produces superior football, perception is reality.

In case you haven't noticed yet, what you did in FCS doesn't mean a thing in FBS. If it did you and App would've received invites before Georgia State and ODU. It wouldn't have taken the Big East completely collapsing before ECU got in with their history and fan base either. And having state in your name, unless it's preceded by Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, etc doesn't mean a thing either. Stop acting as if Ark State hasn't been in the Sunbelt for the longest. What difference has having State in their name made for the conference? I'll give you footprint, but that benefits what?

(06-15-2016 11:43 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 03:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:51 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:29 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:03 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So CUSA loses ECU, Memphis, UCF, Houston, and Tulsa and replaces them with a lot of large media market teams that have no fan base, and people think CUSA is a good measuring stick even though the MAC just locked in a deal where their payouts go up that lasts more than 10 years?

Get real. We may get pocket change in our next TV contract, but it'll be more pocket change than what we get right now.

College athletics is a game of identity. Without exceptional branding it's difficult to get the locals on board with City U and more difficult to get the wider media markets on board. Not impossible but the networks are looking for easier quicker returns on investment. Looking through the Sun Belt and comparing to CUSA the name recognition or marketing advantage has more potential in the SB with greater reach. Media sees the G5 as little or nothing now but with exposure and effective branding the future is worth investing in. Compare the two. Significant branding advantage for the SB based on names, history, and much more definable geographical footprint. It's like a song. All the parts have to fit together perfectly to become a top 20 hit. The pieces are in place for the SB.

1. Name: The SB has three members with state in their name. CUSA has zero. Easier to grab the attention of a state. Two, arguably four directional universities with CCU and App, giving the same "regional" interest. Four in CUSA maybe five with FAU. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

2. History: GS and App alone have more football history entering the league than all recent CUSA adds combined with nine lower league national titles and slaying the giant national exposure. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

3. Definable geographic footprint: Sun Belt = more schools with less distance between schools residing in the southeast US. Given that the southeast historically produces superior football, perception is reality.

In case you haven't noticed yet, what you did in FCS doesn't mean a thing in FBS. If it did you and App would've received invites before Georgia State and ODU. It wouldn't have taken the Big East completely collapsing before ECU got in with their history and fan base either. And having state in your name, unless it's preceded by Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, etc doesn't mean a thing either. Stop acting as if Ark State hasn't been in the Sunbelt for the longest. What difference has having State in their name made for the conference? I'll give you footprint, but that benefits what?

Well if CUSA with all its expansion wisdom wanted Charlotte and ODU more than GS and App clearly start-ups have more name recognition than we do.

(06-15-2016 12:46 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(06-15-2016 11:43 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 03:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:51 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:29 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  College athletics is a game of identity. Without exceptional branding it's difficult to get the locals on board with City U and more difficult to get the wider media markets on board. Not impossible but the networks are looking for easier quicker returns on investment. Looking through the Sun Belt and comparing to CUSA the name recognition or marketing advantage has more potential in the SB with greater reach. Media sees the G5 as little or nothing now but with exposure and effective branding the future is worth investing in. Compare the two. Significant branding advantage for the SB based on names, history, and much more definable geographical footprint. It's like a song. All the parts have to fit together perfectly to become a top 20 hit. The pieces are in place for the SB.

1. Name: The SB has three members with state in their name. CUSA has zero. Easier to grab the attention of a state. Two, arguably four directional universities with CCU and App, giving the same "regional" interest. Four in CUSA maybe five with FAU. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

2. History: GS and App alone have more football history entering the league than all recent CUSA adds combined with nine lower league national titles and slaying the giant national exposure. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

3. Definable geographic footprint: Sun Belt = more schools with less distance between schools residing in the southeast US. Given that the southeast historically produces superior football, perception is reality.

In case you haven't noticed yet, what you did in FCS doesn't mean a thing in FBS. If it did you and App would've received invites before Georgia State and ODU. It wouldn't have taken the Big East completely collapsing before ECU got in with their history and fan base either. And having state in your name, unless it's preceded by Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, etc doesn't mean a thing either. Stop acting as if Ark State hasn't been in the Sunbelt for the longest. What difference has having State in their name made for the conference? I'll give you footprint, but that benefits what?

Well if CUSA with all its expansion wisdom wanted Charlotte and ODU more than GS and App clearly start-ups have more name recognition than we do.

Yep and better looking coeds.

(06-15-2016 11:43 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  In case you haven't noticed yet, what you did in FCS doesn't mean a thing in FBS.

Over the long term, successful FCS programs tend to breed successful FBS programs, and vis-versa.

(06-15-2016 11:43 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 03:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:51 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:29 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:03 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So CUSA loses ECU, Memphis, UCF, Houston, and Tulsa and replaces them with a lot of large media market teams that have no fan base, and people think CUSA is a good measuring stick even though the MAC just locked in a deal where their payouts go up that lasts more than 10 years?

Get real. We may get pocket change in our next TV contract, but it'll be more pocket change than what we get right now.

College athletics is a game of identity. Without exceptional branding it's difficult to get the locals on board with City U and more difficult to get the wider media markets on board. Not impossible but the networks are looking for easier quicker returns on investment. Looking through the Sun Belt and comparing to CUSA the name recognition or marketing advantage has more potential in the SB with greater reach. Media sees the G5 as little or nothing now but with exposure and effective branding the future is worth investing in. Compare the two. Significant branding advantage for the SB based on names, history, and much more definable geographical footprint. It's like a song. All the parts have to fit together perfectly to become a top 20 hit. The pieces are in place for the SB.

1. Name: The SB has three members with state in their name. CUSA has zero. Easier to grab the attention of a state. Two, arguably four directional universities with CCU and App, giving the same "regional" interest. Four in CUSA maybe five with FAU. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

2. History: GS and App alone have more football history entering the league than all recent CUSA adds combined with nine lower league national titles and slaying the giant national exposure. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

3. Definable geographic footprint: Sun Belt = more schools with less distance between schools residing in the southeast US. Given that the southeast historically produces superior football, perception is reality.

In case you haven't noticed yet, what you did in FCS doesn't mean a thing in FBS. If it did you and App would've received invites before Georgia State and ODU. It wouldn't have taken the Big East completely collapsing before ECU got in with their history and fan base either. And having state in your name, unless it's preceded by Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, etc doesn't mean a thing either. Stop acting as if Ark State hasn't been in the Sunbelt for the longest. What difference has having State in their name made for the conference? I'll give you footprint, but that benefits what?

I suppose App & GA So not having declared their intentions to go FBS when ODU and GA St got invites had nothing to do with it.

(06-16-2016 08:56 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(06-15-2016 11:43 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 03:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:51 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:29 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  College athletics is a game of identity. Without exceptional branding it's difficult to get the locals on board with City U and more difficult to get the wider media markets on board. Not impossible but the networks are looking for easier quicker returns on investment. Looking through the Sun Belt and comparing to CUSA the name recognition or marketing advantage has more potential in the SB with greater reach. Media sees the G5 as little or nothing now but with exposure and effective branding the future is worth investing in. Compare the two. Significant branding advantage for the SB based on names, history, and much more definable geographical footprint. It's like a song. All the parts have to fit together perfectly to become a top 20 hit. The pieces are in place for the SB.

1. Name: The SB has three members with state in their name. CUSA has zero. Easier to grab the attention of a state. Two, arguably four directional universities with CCU and App, giving the same "regional" interest. Four in CUSA maybe five with FAU. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

2. History: GS and App alone have more football history entering the league than all recent CUSA adds combined with nine lower league national titles and slaying the giant national exposure. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

3. Definable geographic footprint: Sun Belt = more schools with less distance between schools residing in the southeast US. Given that the southeast historically produces superior football, perception is reality.

In case you haven't noticed yet, what you did in FCS doesn't mean a thing in FBS. If it did you and App would've received invites before Georgia State and ODU. It wouldn't have taken the Big East completely collapsing before ECU got in with their history and fan base either. And having state in your name, unless it's preceded by Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, etc doesn't mean a thing either. Stop acting as if Ark State hasn't been in the Sunbelt for the longest. What difference has having State in their name made for the conference? I'll give you footprint, but that benefits what?

I suppose App & GA So not having declared their intentions to go FBS when ODU and GA St got invites had nothing to do with it.

OK, developing a tradition of winning and great recruiting with a solid fan base has nothing to do with a great transition to the FBS.. RIGHT... got it.

And exactly what are ODU and UNCC's (and even GAST"S) FBS records?
You know, compared to those two who "wasted their time" dominating the FCS/1-AA.

When a conference goes after programs with close proximity to large Markets instead of Nationally known winning programs with smaller markets... you get the current CUSA. Had nothing to do with being better "known" than us.

(06-15-2016 11:43 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 03:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:51 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:29 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:03 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So CUSA loses ECU, Memphis, UCF, Houston, and Tulsa and replaces them with a lot of large media market teams that have no fan base, and people think CUSA is a good measuring stick even though the MAC just locked in a deal where their payouts go up that lasts more than 10 years?

Get real. We may get pocket change in our next TV contract, but it'll be more pocket change than what we get right now.

College athletics is a game of identity. Without exceptional branding it's difficult to get the locals on board with City U and more difficult to get the wider media markets on board. Not impossible but the networks are looking for easier quicker returns on investment. Looking through the Sun Belt and comparing to CUSA the name recognition or marketing advantage has more potential in the SB with greater reach. Media sees the G5 as little or nothing now but with exposure and effective branding the future is worth investing in. Compare the two. Significant branding advantage for the SB based on names, history, and much more definable geographical footprint. It's like a song. All the parts have to fit together perfectly to become a top 20 hit. The pieces are in place for the SB.

1. Name: The SB has three members with state in their name. CUSA has zero. Easier to grab the attention of a state. Two, arguably four directional universities with CCU and App, giving the same "regional" interest. Four in CUSA maybe five with FAU. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

2. History: GS and App alone have more football history entering the league than all recent CUSA adds combined with nine lower league national titles and slaying the giant national exposure. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

3. Definable geographic footprint: Sun Belt = more schools with less distance between schools residing in the southeast US. Given that the southeast historically produces superior football, perception is reality.

In case you haven't noticed yet, what you did in FCS doesn't mean a thing in FBS. If it did you and App would've received invites before Georgia State and ODU. It wouldn't have taken the Big East completely collapsing before ECU got in with their history and fan base either. And having state in your name, unless it's preceded by Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, etc doesn't mean a thing either. Stop acting as if Ark State hasn't been in the Sunbelt for the longest. What difference has having State in their name made for the conference? I'll give you footprint, but that benefits what?

I'll give you that one.

If that were true, then Troy made a mistake. And I don't think they did.

The inclusion of the word "State" hasn't helped a ton of programs. Ask Savannah State, South Carolina State, Jacksonville State etc.

I do think that having the name of the state you are from helps in building your recognition. Sorry Troy, Jacksonville State.

Appalachian State has made it work, sort of branding that Appalachian Mountain thing. I mean, you pretty much know where they are from. Plus their winning tradition has helped them.

I'll give some credit to FAU. I think they made a smart decision in branding by putting a picture of the state of FL on the helmet/ owl on other side I think and writing Florida Atlantic on the jersey. You find out exactly where they are from, their mascot and complete name without having to translate an acronym.

ODU is pretty unique, but with no state name is an issue.

Power 5 teams don't have the same needs we do and have long overcome any of the same challenges that of current G5's must face without a state's name in their title. Example: Baylor and Stanford.

Now as with everything else, Winning solves everything. If you can win like Boise Sate.... You overcome. And "State" had nothing to do with it. Boise as a city name is unique. Can you imagine the challenge that Jacksonville State faces? If think everybody thinks that they are from FL when they first hear it. That city is just better Nationally known.

Of course Charlotte probably doesn't get much confusion. But nobody cares because they haven't won squat. Just knowing where you're from doesn't help. Gotta win. And Charlotte State would have no better luck.

Bottom Line is that you have to win. The SBC is better geared for that than the bulk of the current membership of CUSA. That's why we should rise in National recognition more so than CUSA. Names? Can help our hurt. But nothing tops winning, not even "MARKETS!"

(06-15-2016 01:00 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-15-2016 12:46 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(06-15-2016 11:43 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 03:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 09:51 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

1. Name: The SB has three members with state in their name. CUSA has zero. Easier to grab the attention of a state. Two, arguably four directional universities with CCU and App, giving the same "regional" interest. Four in CUSA maybe five with FAU. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

2. History: GS and App alone have more football history entering the league than all recent CUSA adds combined with nine lower league national titles and slaying the giant national exposure. Name "recognition advantage": See earlier posts in this thread

3. Definable geographic footprint: Sun Belt = more schools with less distance between schools residing in the southeast US. Given that the southeast historically produces superior football, perception is reality.

In case you haven't noticed yet, what you did in FCS doesn't mean a thing in FBS. If it did you and App would've received invites before Georgia State and ODU. It wouldn't have taken the Big East completely collapsing before ECU got in with their history and fan base either. And having state in your name, unless it's preceded by Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, etc doesn't mean a thing either. Stop acting as if Ark State hasn't been in the Sunbelt for the longest. What difference has having State in their name made for the conference? I'll give you footprint, but that benefits what?

Well if CUSA with all its expansion wisdom wanted Charlotte and ODU more than GS and App clearly start-ups have more name recognition than we do.

Yep and better looking coeds.

Try again. I love it when an ODU fan speaks up. Or are you a UAB fan? Both? Adopting ODU till UAB is actually playing football again?
Why ODU? Tell me what their FBS or FCS playoff record is again?

Playoffs:
The Monarchs ... Their combined record is 2-2.


2011
First Round: W 35-18 over Norfolk State
Second Round: L 48-55 to Georgia Southern

2012
First Round: W 63-35 over Coastal Carolina
Second Round: L 35-49 to Georgia Southern

FBS record: 11-13?

Wow.. you know how to pick'um!






I think the title of this thread applies here... "Not Bad, Not Bad at all!"

I'm an ODU fan and Alumni. The profile pic is in solidarity with a conference brother until they bring back football. I kept my sig line ODU though. Is one of these picks you? I ask because you're clearly wearing panties and they're clearly in a bunch. It was a joke dude. We're 57-25 since starting football. And were 6-6 and 5-7 since joining FBS. Not bad, probably could have done better with GS's schedule.