Pepperdine is a long way from Williamsburg and Wilmington.

I thought mullet was saying UNC did not deserve a bid, therefore W&M could not have stolen their bid.

The CAA has done as well as could be hoped. UNCW is a 2 seed and W&M is playing close to home.

UNC-CH may claim their exclusion is a self-imposed sanction for their upcoming NCAA woes.

Kinda' nice to be the higher ranked team when playing Duke!

I also believe Mullet was saying UNC didn't deserve a bid
Now I think I'm going to have to go shower.

UNCW has traditionally been the higher seeded team when compared to Duke. Duke hasn't been good in baseball until recently, but UNCW is there every year. Hawks have won 22 of the 33 games played in the series.

We used to beat Duke so badly that Coach Scalf stopped scheduling them. I think I remember the 2006 squad beating them something like 17-1 one game. But their program has come a long way since then.

I was saying that UNC did not deserve a bid but W&M is just as undeserving in my mind. They get lucky and win a few games on the back end of a bad season and are awarded a NCAA berth for that? They should not be in it either and I hope they get a quick beatdown.

(05-30-2016 09:15 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  I was saying that UNC did not deserve a bid but W&M is just as undeserving in my mind. They get lucky and win a few games on the back end of a bad season and are awarded a NCAA berth for that? They should not be in it either and I hope they get a quick beatdown.

They were the conference's # 2 seed in the tournament. lol. How did they have a "bad season"?

W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

Anyone going to Columbia for the regional? I'm planning on being there Friday and Saturday. We need a proper UNCW tailgate to lather up beforehand!

I will be looking for a place to tailgate .plan on getting there Thursday and will try to locate place to tailgate

(05-30-2016 10:40 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

I hear ya their schedule was extremely challenging no doubt. But their record is their record. They earned their bid though and I think they will be a tough out

(05-30-2016 09:15 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  I was saying that UNC did not deserve a bid but W&M is just as undeserving in my mind. They get lucky and win a few games on the back end of a bad season and are awarded a NCAA berth for that? They should not be in it either and I hope they get a quick beatdown.

Our basketball program would give anything to win a few games on the back end of any type of season to get the NCAA auto bid! :-)

Anyway, I come in peace.

The automatic path to an NCAA bid is to win the conference tourney. As such, the non-conference schedule / record / performance is irrelevant to this path.

Have to finish in CAA Top 6 ... check!

Should finish in top two (for obvious reasons) ... check!

Become the first CAA school to win the tourney coming out of the loser's bracket ... check!

In sum, W&M did what it had to do re: the CAA automatic bid. Just because they would have received ZERO consideration for an at large does not diminish the achievement, nor does it de-legitimize their participation through the auto bid process.

Are they Top 64? No. Did they properly qualify? Yes, and as one of the W&M posters said, with lots and lots of heart.

It's always a good thing when the CAA gets multiple bids.

As for your wish for a beatdown, W&M has had recent troubles with UVa, and odds are, your wish will be granted. But miracles do happen ... just ask UNCW! :-)

Best of luck to the Hawks in the tourney ... hope they have a deep run and represent well. Hopefully, the Tribe can do the same.

(05-30-2016 10:40 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

The way the system is set up they do deserve a spot but are they a top 64 team or even a top 150? I think the system needs to be more rewarding to teams that play well over a period of time and not just win a few games in a conference tourney and not a good conference by any means. I don't know how you do that and I have nothing against W&M but they are not a very good team.
Not to mention the fact that a ump blows a call to give them a game.
A easy way to eliminate teams like this would be to take the regular season champion and not have a conference tournament format for the NCAA baseball season. Basketball is just so different in nature that it is not a fair comparison. Baseball is a marathon of sorts and just winning 4 games in 3 or 4 days is not reflective of what type of team you are. Just a thought and I will pull for W&M to lose out quickly.

(05-31-2016 08:27 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 10:40 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

The way the system is set up they do deserve a spot but are they a top 64 team or even a top 150? I think the system needs to be more rewarding to teams that play well over a period of time and not just win a few games in a conference tourney and not a good conference by any means. I don't know how you do that and I have nothing against W&M but they are not a very good team.
Not to mention the fact that a ump blows a call to give them a game.
A easy way to eliminate teams like this would be to take the regular season champion and not have a conference tournament format for the NCAA baseball season. Basketball is just so different in nature that it is not a fair comparison. Baseball is a marathon of sorts and just winning 4 games in 3 or 4 days is not reflective of what type of team you are. Just a thought and I will pull for W&M to lose out quickly.

You really shouldn't talk, when you have no clue what you are talking about! First, CAA was in the top half of leagues in RPI, SEC, no. But not sisters of the poor either. Second, W n M came in SECOND in the league. Them winning the tourney is not out of the realm of possibility. And your Baseball to hoops comparison is complete BS! in fact, it could be argued quite the opposite. A conference tourney in hoops with a 1 and done scenario plays into a "bad team" getting hot much more than baseball where good teams have a second chance to pull out of a losers bracket. It's tougher to do, clearly.

Please understand that Mullet is not a Seahawk fan. W&M overcame great odds to come back and win the CAA tourney. Seahawk Nation will be pulling for you guys to win. Go CAA!!!! Hoping both our teams represent.

(05-31-2016 08:59 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Please understand that Mullet is not a Seahawk fan. W&M overcame great odds to come back and win the CAA tourney. Seahawk Nation will be pulling for you guys to win. Go CAA!!!! Hoping both our teams represent.

Amen..... as much as it hurts, deserving run for sure!

(05-31-2016 08:53 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 08:27 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 10:40 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

The way the system is set up they do deserve a spot but are they a top 64 team or even a top 150? I think the system needs to be more rewarding to teams that play well over a period of time and not just win a few games in a conference tourney and not a good conference by any means. I don't know how you do that and I have nothing against W&M but they are not a very good team.
Not to mention the fact that a ump blows a call to give them a game.
A easy way to eliminate teams like this would be to take the regular season champion and not have a conference tournament format for the NCAA baseball season. Basketball is just so different in nature that it is not a fair comparison. Baseball is a marathon of sorts and just winning 4 games in 3 or 4 days is not reflective of what type of team you are. Just a thought and I will pull for W&M to lose out quickly.

You really shouldn't talk, when you have no clue what you are talking about! First, CAA was in the top half of leagues in RPI, SEC, no. But not sisters of the poor either. Second, W n M came in SECOND in the league. Them winning the tourney is not out of the realm of possibility. And your Baseball to hoops comparison is complete BS! in fact, it could be argued quite the opposite. A conference tourney in hoops with a 1 and done scenario plays into a "bad team" getting hot much more than baseball where good teams have a second chance to pull out of a losers bracket. It's tougher to do, clearly.

Pretty much every conference after the SEC and ACC can say the same thing but trying to make a case for the CAA in baseball is stupid. I went to UNCW games all year and saw some very bad teams there. If UNCW loses both games to UNC this year they would be at home while W&M plays. UNC in no way deserved to be in the NCAA but they are light years better than a W&M. In basketball the best team wins 95% of the time but baseball is a different bird all together.
UNCW is legit and could make a huge run in the NCAA but W&M will not win a game unless they get lucky as hell. I just don't like the way it is set up for a team like them to even have a chance to beat a UNCW and get the bid. It also cost UNCW a better seed and a chance to save a pitcher or two for the next game.

(05-31-2016 08:59 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Please understand that Mullet is not a Seahawk fan. W&M overcame great odds to come back and win the CAA tourney. Seahawk Nation will be pulling for you guys to win. Go CAA!!!! Hoping both our teams represent.

I am a 100% UNCW baseball fan and went to most games this year and have been for years. I am not pulling for W&M to win even one game. I want the teams that deserve to be there to beat a lucky winner like these guys. Nothing personal just the way I see it.