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...[H]ere are six reasons Memphis is the obvious choice to join Cincinnati as the newest additions to your league: ...

HERE >>>

http://www.commercialappeal.com/columnis...19261.html


And finishes with >>>

…Indeed, I'm reminded of University of Oklahoma president David Boren's comments about Louisville, when he lamented that the Big 12 "let Louisville get away." Boren — who had lobbied to add Louisville to the Big 12 — said, "I obviously did not prevail, and they have now gone into another conference and they're not available now. But they'd have been a good fit."

In many ways, Memphis is Louisville. Or Louisville is what Memphis could easily be. They're both urban universities, located in mid-sized cities, with the ability to dominate interest in those cities in a way that is both remarkable and rare. The primary difference between the two schools has been the quality of their leadership. And Memphis has quality leadership now.

So do not pass up the opportunity a second time. Do not be fooled by some other pitch. If you choose to expand by two schools, do not let Memphis get away.
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This must be the column he wrote over the weekend before Joerger was fired.
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http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/3196...witterfeed


MEMPHIS, TN (WMC) -

Editorial by Tracey Rogers, Vice President and General Manager of WMC Action News 5:

I am 100 percent behind University of Memphis President Dr. David Rudd's effort to move the University into the Big 12 conference.
And kudos to FedEx for putting up big money to help that effort.
We all owe it to the students at the University of Memphis, our city and this region to get behind Dr. Rudd's effort and cheer him on.
You may ask why? Because this is the one sure fire way to grow the University of Memphis and get more dollars for research and student development.

Big athletics, means bigger dollars overall for the school, the city and the region.

Besides it will be another attractive way to entice top talent to work here and make the Mid-South their home.

A Big 12 move for the University of Memphis would definitely make this a Better Mid-South...
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its easy to see why you guys don't like calkins
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(05-13-2016 02:32 PM)btiger Wrote:  its easy to see why you guys don't like calkins

I like Calkins, but this board loves to criticize the media.

Curious btiger, what in the Calkins article did you not like?
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(05-13-2016 02:35 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 02:32 PM)btiger Wrote:  its easy to see why you guys don't like calkins

I like Calkins, but this board loves to criticize the media.

Curious btiger, what in the Calkins article did you not like?

he compared our fans to kentucky fans
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(05-13-2016 02:37 PM)btiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 02:35 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 02:32 PM)btiger Wrote:  its easy to see why you guys don't like calkins

I like Calkins, but this board loves to criticize the media.

Curious btiger, what in the Calkins article did you not like?

he compared our fans to kentucky fans

Wow, Calkins is complimenting our fan base for its passion, and you see that as a negative?

"But another word for that craziness is passion. Since when is that a bad thing? Alabama football fans are crazy. Kentucky basketball fans are crazy. You sensing a theme here? The best programs tend to be those that care the most. Memphians care as much or more than anyone."
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I like Geoff and it's a good article. Just keep chopping wood and we'll get there.
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Calkins has been partaking of the Fedex kool aide.

Pretty good stuff.

As Rev. Ike (maybe even TC) would say..

You can't lose with the stuff I use.
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(05-13-2016 02:37 PM)btiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 02:35 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 02:32 PM)btiger Wrote:  its easy to see why you guys don't like calkins

I like Calkins, but this board loves to criticize the media.

Curious btiger, what in the Calkins article did you not like?

he compared our fans to kentucky fans

LMAO
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There is only one factor that will be a predictable guide in this process- increasing revenue for the 10 existing members. Different individuals may have emotional bonds to other factors, but no other factor will be shared in importance as proving Memphis increases revenue the most of all options. Recall how St Louis misread who their opponents were in a perhaps rigged NFL decision. They presented the best stadium of the three cities, but not the best stadium of the 5 options, and thought that was enough. Dont misread this. 50-75% of the argument should be money, and the other 25 how this can benefit us.

This isnt about how the Big 12 can benefit us. They could give 2 sh1ts. This is how we benefit them, and benefit them more than not just Houston, Connecticut, the Florida schools, but benefit them more than staying at 10. If there are 24 other schools, make sure you present the best advantage to the Big 12 than your 25 opponents (the 25th being staying pat). Doesnt mean overanalyzing UNLV, but make sure you have the basics down.

Really, I dont know how involved Autozone and Nike are, or St Jude, but if they were 100% behind this, there are few places in the country with a #2, 3, 4 hitter like that in sports and (for St Jude) millenial marketing. ESPN could help by overpaying a network to guarantee Conn, but they are having some financial issues that perhaps the folks at Disney may not like if they are pushing the school in their backyard down in Fl. Maybe they iron it out and overcome it. I read that Uconn has the biggest existing revenue stream of the contenders. That is a huge adversary imo.

All this fluff Calkins put in the article is largely missing the point. Sure, some folks may be drawn to our strength in basketball, or how "appreciative" we'll be, and how important we'll make them feel. But everyone will be drawn to money.

If we dont translate to dollars, none of what Calkins said will overcome that. None. It's like talking about how good or bad a practice player AI was. The game is what matters, and the game is money.

Maybe it's how Calkins wrote it. I know he's not an enthusiastic civic booster in any of his media roles, and that lack of enthusiasm shows in his attempt at advocacy.

Maybe that works for the readers in the demographics the CA apparently targets and caters to.
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(05-13-2016 02:40 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 02:37 PM)btiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 02:35 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 02:32 PM)btiger Wrote:  its easy to see why you guys don't like calkins

I like Calkins, but this board loves to criticize the media.

Curious btiger, what in the Calkins article did you not like?

he compared our fans to kentucky fans

Wow, Calkins is complimenting our fan base for its passion, and you see that as a negative?

"But another word for that craziness is passion. Since when is that a bad thing? Alabama football fans are crazy. Kentucky basketball fans are crazy. You sensing a theme here? The best programs tend to be those that care the most. Memphians care as much or more than anyone."

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(05-13-2016 03:15 PM)kabluey Wrote:  Maybe that works for the readers in the demographics the CA apparently targets and caters to.

Anyone with 50 cents?
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(05-13-2016 02:14 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  ...[H]ere are six reasons Memphis is the obvious choice to join Cincinnati as the newest additions to your league: ...

HERE >>>

http://www.commercialappeal.com/columnis...19261.html


And finishes with >>>

…Indeed, I'm reminded of University of Oklahoma president David Boren's comments about Louisville, when he lamented that the Big 12 "let Louisville get away." Boren — who had lobbied to add Louisville to the Big 12 — said, "I obviously did not prevail, and they have now gone into another conference and they're not available now. But they'd have been a good fit."

In many ways, Memphis is Louisville. Or Louisville is what Memphis could easily be. They're both urban universities, located in mid-sized cities, with the ability to dominate interest in those cities in a way that is both remarkable and rare. The primary difference between the two schools has been the quality of their leadership. And Memphis has quality leadership now.

So do not pass up the opportunity a second time. Do not be fooled by some other pitch. If you choose to expand by two schools, do not let Memphis get away.

It is known that Boren was smitten on Louisville. I said a while back that we should do all we can to convince him that we are the next UL.
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(05-13-2016 03:15 PM)kabluey Wrote:  There is only one factor that will be a predictable guide in this process- increasing revenue for the 10 existing members. Different individuals may have emotional bonds to other factors, but no other factor will be shared in importance as proving Memphis increases revenue the most of all options. Recall how St Louis misread who their opponents were in a perhaps rigged NFL decision. They presented the best stadium of the three cities, but not the best stadium of the 5 options, and thought that was enough. Dont misread this. 50-75% of the argument should be money, and the other 25 how this can benefit us.

This isnt about how the Big 12 can benefit us. They could give 2 sh1ts. This is how we benefit them, and benefit them more than not just Houston, Connecticut, the Florida schools, but benefit them more than staying at 10. If there are 24 other schools, make sure you present the best advantage to the Big 12 than your 25 opponents (the 25th being staying pat). Doesnt mean overanalyzing UNLV, but make sure you have the basics down.

Really, I dont know how involved Autozone and Nike are, or St Jude, but if they were 100% behind this, there are few places in the country with a #2, 3, 4 hitter like that in sports and (for St Jude) millenial marketing. ESPN could help by overpaying a network to guarantee Conn, but they are having some financial issues that perhaps the folks at Disney may not like if they are pushing the school in their backyard down in Fl. Maybe they iron it out and overcome it. I read that Uconn has the biggest existing revenue stream of the contenders. That is a huge adversary imo.

All this fluff Calkins put in the article is largely missing the point. Sure, some folks may be drawn to our strength in basketball, or how "appreciative" we'll be, and how important we'll make them feel. But everyone will be drawn to money.

If we dont translate to dollars, none of what Calkins said will overcome that. None. It's like talking about how good or bad a practice player AI was. The game is what matters, and the game is money.

Maybe it's how Calkins wrote it. I know he's not an enthusiastic civic booster in any of his media roles, and that lack of enthusiasm shows in his attempt at advocacy.

Maybe that works for the readers in the demographics the CA apparently targets and caters to.


thank you Mr Sunshine..... Do you know that it is 99% likely that Memphis brings the highest $$$ value to the existing 10 members of the Big12? 03-idea
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Once.... Twice.... Three times a lady.
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(05-13-2016 08:34 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 03:15 PM)kabluey Wrote:  There is only one factor that will be a predictable guide in this process- increasing revenue for the 10 existing members. Different individuals may have emotional bonds to other factors, but no other factor will be shared in importance as proving Memphis increases revenue the most of all options. Recall how St Louis misread who their opponents were in a perhaps rigged NFL decision. They presented the best stadium of the three cities, but not the best stadium of the 5 options, and thought that was enough. Dont misread this. 50-75% of the argument should be money, and the other 25 how this can benefit us.

This isnt about how the Big 12 can benefit us. They could give 2 sh1ts. This is how we benefit them, and benefit them more than not just Houston, Connecticut, the Florida schools, but benefit them more than staying at 10. If there are 24 other schools, make sure you present the best advantage to the Big 12 than your 25 opponents (the 25th being staying pat). Doesnt mean overanalyzing UNLV, but make sure you have the basics down.

Really, I dont know how involved Autozone and Nike are, or St Jude, but if they were 100% behind this, there are few places in the country with a #2, 3, 4 hitter like that in sports and (for St Jude) millenial marketing. ESPN could help by overpaying a network to guarantee Conn, but they are having some financial issues that perhaps the folks at Disney may not like if they are pushing the school in their backyard down in Fl. Maybe they iron it out and overcome it. I read that Uconn has the biggest existing revenue stream of the contenders. That is a huge adversary imo.

All this fluff Calkins put in the article is largely missing the point. Sure, some folks may be drawn to our strength in basketball, or how "appreciative" we'll be, and how important we'll make them feel. But everyone will be drawn to money.

If we dont translate to dollars, none of what Calkins said will overcome that. None. It's like talking about how good or bad a practice player AI was. The game is what matters, and the game is money.

Maybe it's how Calkins wrote it. I know he's not an enthusiastic civic booster in any of his media roles, and that lack of enthusiasm shows in his attempt at advocacy.

Maybe that works for the readers in the demographics the CA apparently targets and caters to.


thank you Mr Sunshine..... Do you know that it is 99% likely that Memphis brings the highest $$$ value to the existing 10 members of the Big12? 03-idea

Mr. Sunshine's take was correct 2 years ago.

It isn't now.

The driving factor now is can the Big XII keep the revenue levels it has? Failing to expand is going give it less product than everyone else. Less product means you are less attractive to networks that are already paying too much for sports products.

The Big XII is no longer looking to better their position. They are now playing defense. That is a whole different thing.
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(05-13-2016 08:53 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 08:34 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(05-13-2016 03:15 PM)kabluey Wrote:  There is only one factor that will be a predictable guide in this process- increasing revenue for the 10 existing members. Different individuals may have emotional bonds to other factors, but no other factor will be shared in importance as proving Memphis increases revenue the most of all options. Recall how St Louis misread who their opponents were in a perhaps rigged NFL decision. They presented the best stadium of the three cities, but not the best stadium of the 5 options, and thought that was enough. Dont misread this. 50-75% of the argument should be money, and the other 25 how this can benefit us.

This isnt about how the Big 12 can benefit us. They could give 2 sh1ts. This is how we benefit them, and benefit them more than not just Houston, Connecticut, the Florida schools, but benefit them more than staying at 10. If there are 24 other schools, make sure you present the best advantage to the Big 12 than your 25 opponents (the 25th being staying pat). Doesnt mean overanalyzing UNLV, but make sure you have the basics down.

Really, I dont know how involved Autozone and Nike are, or St Jude, but if they were 100% behind this, there are few places in the country with a #2, 3, 4 hitter like that in sports and (for St Jude) millenial marketing. ESPN could help by overpaying a network to guarantee Conn, but they are having some financial issues that perhaps the folks at Disney may not like if they are pushing the school in their backyard down in Fl. Maybe they iron it out and overcome it. I read that Uconn has the biggest existing revenue stream of the contenders. That is a huge adversary imo.

All this fluff Calkins put in the article is largely missing the point. Sure, some folks may be drawn to our strength in basketball, or how "appreciative" we'll be, and how important we'll make them feel. But everyone will be drawn to money.

If we dont translate to dollars, none of what Calkins said will overcome that. None. It's like talking about how good or bad a practice player AI was. The game is what matters, and the game is money.

Maybe it's how Calkins wrote it. I know he's not an enthusiastic civic booster in any of his media roles, and that lack of enthusiasm shows in his attempt at advocacy.

Maybe that works for the readers in the demographics the CA apparently targets and caters to.


thank you Mr Sunshine..... Do you know that it is 99% likely that Memphis brings the highest $$$ value to the existing 10 members of the Big12? 03-idea

Mr. Sunshine's take was correct 2 years ago.

It isn't now.

The driving factor now is can the Big XII keep the revenue levels it has? Failing to expand is going give it less product than everyone else. Less product means you are less attractive to networks that are already paying too much for sports products.

The Big XII is no longer looking to better their position. They are now playing defense. That is a whole different thing.

Its easy to see why he wins national awards as a sports writer. Well written.
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(05-13-2016 03:15 PM)kabluey Wrote:  There is only one factor that will be a predictable guide in this process- increasing revenue for the 10 existing members. Different individuals may have emotional bonds to other factors, but no other factor will be shared in importance as proving Memphis increases revenue the most of all options. Recall how St Louis misread who their opponents were in a perhaps rigged NFL decision. They presented the best stadium of the three cities, but not the best stadium of the 5 options, and thought that was enough. Dont misread this. 50-75% of the argument should be money, and the other 25 how this can benefit us.

This isnt about how the Big 12 can benefit us. They could give 2 sh1ts. This is how we benefit them, and benefit them more than not just Houston, Connecticut, the Florida schools, but benefit them more than staying at 10. If there are 24 other schools, make sure you present the best advantage to the Big 12 than your 25 opponents (the 25th being staying pat). Doesnt mean overanalyzing UNLV, but make sure you have the basics down.

Really, I dont know how involved Autozone and Nike are, or St Jude, but if they were 100% behind this, there are few places in the country with a #2, 3, 4 hitter like that in sports and (for St Jude) millenial marketing. ESPN could help by overpaying a network to guarantee Conn, but they are having some financial issues that perhaps the folks at Disney may not like if they are pushing the school in their backyard down in Fl. Maybe they iron it out and overcome it. I read that Uconn has the biggest existing revenue stream of the contenders. That is a huge adversary imo.

All this fluff Calkins put in the article is largely missing the point. Sure, some folks may be drawn to our strength in basketball, or how "appreciative" we'll be, and how important we'll make them feel. But everyone will be drawn to money.

If we dont translate to dollars, none of what Calkins said will overcome that. None. It's like talking about how good or bad a practice player AI was. The game is what matters, and the game is money.

Maybe it's how Calkins wrote it. I know he's not an enthusiastic civic booster in any of his media roles, and that lack of enthusiasm shows in his attempt at advocacy.

Maybe that works for the readers in the demographics the CA apparently targets and caters to.
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(05-13-2016 03:15 PM)kabluey Wrote:  There is only one factor that will be a predictable guide in this process- increasing revenue for the 10 existing members. Different individuals may have emotional bonds to other factors, but no other factor will be shared in importance as proving Memphis increases revenue the most of all options. Recall how St Louis misread who their opponents were in a perhaps rigged NFL decision. They presented the best stadium of the three cities, but not the best stadium of the 5 options, and thought that was enough. Dont misread this. 50-75% of the argument should be money, and the other 25 how this can benefit us.

This isnt about how the Big 12 can benefit us. They could give 2 sh1ts. This is how we benefit them, and benefit them more than not just Houston, Connecticut, the Florida schools, but benefit them more than staying at 10. If there are 24 other schools, make sure you present the best advantage to the Big 12 than your 25 opponents (the 25th being staying pat). Doesnt mean overanalyzing UNLV, but make sure you have the basics down.

Really, I dont know how involved Autozone and Nike are, or St Jude, but if they were 100% behind this, there are few places in the country with a #2, 3, 4 hitter like that in sports and (for St Jude) millenial marketing. ESPN could help by overpaying a network to guarantee Conn, but they are having some financial issues that perhaps the folks at Disney may not like if they are pushing the school in their backyard down in Fl. Maybe they iron it out and overcome it. I read that Uconn has the biggest existing revenue stream of the contenders. That is a huge adversary imo.

All this fluff Calkins put in the article is largely missing the point. Sure, some folks may be drawn to our strength in basketball, or how "appreciative" we'll be, and how important we'll make them feel. But everyone will be drawn to money.

If we dont translate to dollars, none of what Calkins said will overcome that. None. It's like talking about how good or bad a practice player AI was. The game is what matters, and the game is money.

Maybe it's how Calkins wrote it. I know he's not an enthusiastic civic booster in any of his media roles, and that lack of enthusiasm shows in his attempt at advocacy.

Maybe that works for the readers in the demographics the CA apparently targets and caters to.


Lmao.

It bothers you that he wrote something supportive of the Univ of Memphis.

Smh
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