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RE: Trump has his positives, but #ImWithHer
(05-05-2016 09:25 PM)Max Power Wrote: I had to do some thinking when it became clear it was Trump v. Hillary.
Not a big SJW. I do think it's really, really stupid, in that we deny equal rights to LGBT and minorities, but unless it's a matter of life and death what we really need to focus on is the economics. And there, Hillary is the best. But, it's not clear cut.
Trade - Point Trump. Due to NAFTA and PNTR w/ China we have a flight of manufacturing to Mexico and overseas. It's gutting our middle class. Bill Clinton signed them into law, and Hillary supported them. Granted, she has been on record as opposing TPP. But, I'm skeptical.
Foreign policy - Point Trump. Hillary voted for Iraq, spearheaded Libya and pushed for more intervention in Syria. Disaster, disaster, and would-have-been disaster. Trump says he was against Iraq, even though he apparently gave tepid support in a Stern interview circa 2002. And I'm a little troubled by his nonchalance about nuclear proliferation, especially re South Korea and Japan. Still, I think his instincts are better. As an aside, the working class bears the brunt of the cost of war -- not the rich, who may even benefit if they're heavily invested in defense contractors.
Minimum wage -- Hillary. Trump has said on multiple occasions that wages, and specifically, the minimum wage, are too high. Well that's ******* ridiculous. It's so low that 40 hr/wk workers need to go on public aid to pay their bills. Which is welfare for these large, hugely profitable corporations. Hillary supported a $12/hr minimum wage, and in the last debate said she would sign $15/hr.
Income inequality -- Hillary, She has a college affordability plan, Trump doesn't. Social Security, Medicare, universal pre-K, union rights, all better in her hands..
States run the colleges and set tuition policies. How is she going to pay for this? Social Security and Medicare-she has been part of the Democratic group that pretended there was no problem. Obama has claimed there is no problem. She bankrupts the system.
Immigration -- Hillary. We don't need a wall, and we don't need to demonize Latinos, rip apart their families and spend billions shipping undocumenteds back to Mexico. The middle class is disappearing in this country because of corporate greed, not Mexicans picking tomatoes for $2/hr in California.
Its simple economics. You wouldn't have as much a need for a minimum wage if you didn't have 12 million people driving down wages. They have taken over whole sectors of the economy in many states, not just farm jobs. In Texas, virtually all the housekeepers, maids, bus boys, cooks, construction workers, landscapers and nannies are illegals. Its similar throughout the southwest. Its trending that way in major cities around the country, including the deep south. Meatpackers in Iowa-illegals. Maybe you live in an area without a major impact-yet.
Health care -- Hillary. She won't repeal Obamacare and take away health care from 15 million people. Trump says he will, and his promise to somehow solve this by allowing competition across state lines is laughable.
Wall Street reform -- Tied. Wall Street's reckless speculation brought down the economy in 2008, costing millions their jobs, homes and pensions. Hillary, while having taken millions from these very banks, supports cracking down on "shadow banking." Not as far as I'd like to go but further than Trump has espoused. Still, Trump is such a wildcard I wouldn't be surprised to see him take them on.
Climate change -- Hillary. One thinks it's a hoax, the other supports the Paris accords. Anybody under the age of 40 should be alarmed at the fact we keep having so many hottest months and years on record, and consider the global implications of that for the years ahead.
Big money in politics -- Hillary. I don't trust her all that much, but she does hate Citizens United. Maybe it's because CU was a group trashing her, but regardless, it's something we need to overturn. Moneyed interests can't be buying our politicians.
This is just ridiculous. Hillary is the definition of big money in politics.
Oh yeah, Trump's a ******* racist. Maybe not at the level of David Duke but we can't elect a person who said what he did against Latinos, against women, against Muslims, and other minorities.
Trump is many things, but he is not a racist. That is what makes me think these Sanders people have no brains. His comments were against illegal aliens, not Latinos. Women aren't a race last I checked. His Muslim ban was simply because we know as a fact that Muslim terror groups are trying to infiltrate our country through refugees and that they have already succeeded in Europe. They also aren't a race-there are African, Arab, East Asian, South Asian and Slavic Muslims. What other minorities? He has attacked people with common sense, with manners, women who don't look trashy like he likes his females (Marla didn't fit his mold), but I don't think those are minorities (although the election might prove me wrong  ).
Bernie had a good run but #ImWithHer
I'm not going to argue your climate change. But devastating the economy while continuing to subsidize coastal development is not a common sense way to deal with it. Its a disaster in the making.
(This post was last modified: 05-06-2016 08:51 AM by bullet.)
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Trump has his positives, but #ImWithHer
