(04-19-2016 06:43 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 12:24 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 08:50 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  In the behind the scenes first day on the job video he was taken into the locker room where each uniform was on display and he commented on the different uniforms.....

I noticed that he was surprised to see a gray uniform. Can't blame him - how would any outsuider possibly know our colors are blue & gray when half of our fans don't. Sunday, one of our fans, (bless his heart) at the baseball game stood up and got the crowd chanting "Blue.....White.....Blue....White.....".

Damn, I would like to see blue & gray warm-ups. If Kentucky can, why can't we? It pisses me off, by the way, that Calipari's team wears more gray at Kentucky that he did here.

I wondering if there's an old crotchety UK fan that is whining about "Calipari Gray" and calling himself "White Avenger" ?

LOL...now that was funny right there!

I think our basketball uniforms are fine. Good color combos and I love the throwbacks.

Wouldn't mind the team exclusively wearing penny shoes though ...

Our current uniforms are so weird. The stripes on the side of the shorts are so high school looking. We have never had a consistent uniform style in football or basketball. Can this be explained?

(04-19-2016 07:17 PM)KRB Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 01:49 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I think the throwback script uniforms just say Memphis. Might be wrong.

They always said Memphis in script.

No, actually, Wayne Yates, who succeeded Bartow, changed the uniforms to say "MEMPHIS STATE" and replaced red trim with silver gray. I still have the letter which he sent me saying I would be happy with the improvement. Blue & Gray basketball jerseys bearing "MEMPHIS STATE" continued to be worn until Calipari came along.

(04-20-2016 01:32 PM)KendallC Wrote:  Our current uniforms are so weird. The stripes on the side of the shorts are so high school looking. We have never had a consistent uniform style in football or basketball. Can this be explained?

Don't even get me started - our brand is ridiculous. No consistency ... looks very B-league across football/baseball/basketball.

(04-19-2016 01:49 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 10:41 AM)MTiger14 Wrote:  I doubt that the team will wear anything with Memphis State on it for a while. It seems like the university is still trying to distance itself from that name. I really like the script jerseys as well.

I think the throwback script uniforms just say Memphis. Might be wrong.

I was responding to Bluto's post about the 80's Keith Lee jerseys that have "Memphis State" on the front. I guess I should've quoted it to prevent the confusion.

(04-20-2016 01:32 PM)KendallC Wrote:  .... We have never had a consistent uniform style in football or basketball. Can this be explained?

(1) Failure to recognize the importance of consistency to brand strength
(2) " " " " " " details
(3) " " " " " " tradition in college athletics
(4) Lack of enforcement
(5) Lack of pride
(6) Giving new coaches final say in matters pertaining to brand and tradition
(7) Athletic department not on same page as rest of university

(04-20-2016 01:43 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:32 PM)KendallC Wrote:  .... We have never had a consistent uniform style in football or basketball. Can this be explained?

(1) Failure to recognize the importance of consistency to brand strength
(2) " " " " " " details
(3) " " " " " " tradition in college athletics
(4) Lack of enforcement
(5) Lack of pride
(6) Giving new coaches final say in matters pertaining to brand and tradition
(7) Athletic department not on same page as rest of university

It's so annoying to me ...

The 'Memphis' font on the basketball, baseball, and football jerseys are all different fonts.

Basketball uses a plain block M logo, baseball uses the leaping Tiger, and football has basically moved to a Cincy Bengals helmet. No logo to be found when they go that route ...

I don't get caught up on color scheme, but our logos need to be more consistent across all sports. From the script/logo on the uniforms, hats, field/court, coaches polo, etc.

(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:43 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:32 PM)KendallC Wrote:  .... We have never had a consistent uniform style in football or basketball. Can this be explained?

(1) Failure to recognize the importance of consistency to brand strength
(2) " " " " " " details
(3) " " " " " " tradition in college athletics
(4) Lack of enforcement
(5) Lack of pride
(6) Giving new coaches final say in matters pertaining to brand and tradition
(7) Athletic department not on same page as rest of university

It's so annoying to me ...

The 'Memphis' font on the basketball, baseball, and football jerseys are all different fonts.

Basketball uses a plain block M logo, baseball uses the leaping Tiger, and football has basically moved to a Cincy Bengals helmet. No logo to be found when they go that route ...

I don't get caught up on color scheme, but our logos need to be more consistent across all sports. From the script/logo on the uniforms, hats, field/court, coaches polo, etc.

It varies from sport to sport for pretty much all Universities. It is really not a big deal...

(04-20-2016 02:42 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:43 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:32 PM)KendallC Wrote:  .... We have never had a consistent uniform style in football or basketball. Can this be explained?

(1) Failure to recognize the importance of consistency to brand strength
(2) " " " " " " details
(3) " " " " " " tradition in college athletics
(4) Lack of enforcement
(5) Lack of pride
(6) Giving new coaches final say in matters pertaining to brand and tradition
(7) Athletic department not on same page as rest of university

It's so annoying to me ...

The 'Memphis' font on the basketball, baseball, and football jerseys are all different fonts.

Basketball uses a plain block M logo, baseball uses the leaping Tiger, and football has basically moved to a Cincy Bengals helmet. No logo to be found when they go that route ...

I don't get caught up on color scheme, but our logos need to be more consistent across all sports. From the script/logo on the uniforms, hats, field/court, coaches polo, etc.

It varies from sport to sport for pretty much all Universities. It is really not a big deal...

Maybe a little bit ... baseball teams tend to have different logos on their hats sometimes. But the brand integrity across the board is usually better than what we have.

It's not a BIG DEAL, but it does look B-league.

For instance, look at what tennessee, arkansas, north carolina, baylor have done in recent years...

(04-20-2016 02:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:42 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:43 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:32 PM)KendallC Wrote:  .... We have never had a consistent uniform style in football or basketball. Can this be explained?

(1) Failure to recognize the importance of consistency to brand strength
(2) " " " " " " details
(3) " " " " " " tradition in college athletics
(4) Lack of enforcement
(5) Lack of pride
(6) Giving new coaches final say in matters pertaining to brand and tradition
(7) Athletic department not on same page as rest of university

It's so annoying to me ...

The 'Memphis' font on the basketball, baseball, and football jerseys are all different fonts.

Basketball uses a plain block M logo, baseball uses the leaping Tiger, and football has basically moved to a Cincy Bengals helmet. No logo to be found when they go that route ...

I don't get caught up on color scheme, but our logos need to be more consistent across all sports. From the script/logo on the uniforms, hats, field/court, coaches polo, etc.

It varies from sport to sport for pretty much all Universities. It is really not a big deal...

Maybe a little bit ... baseball teams tend to have different logos on their hats sometimes. But the brand integrity across the board is usually better than what we have.

It's not a BIG DEAL, but it does look B-league.

For instance, look at what tennessee, arkansas, north carolina, baylor have done in recent years...

It is not B-league, like say 90-95% of schools vary quite a bit between sports. Even one of your examples, Arkansas, their baseball team wears cream home uniforms with only an "A" on them that is a totally different script from the anything you will see with their basketball or football teams. The "A" actually looks a lot like the one associated with Alabama actually. Baylor basketball wears highlighter yellow jerseys while their football team has gold chrome helmets with black "BU".

I like this. Plus, our guy can palm.

(04-20-2016 04:39 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:42 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:43 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  (1) Failure to recognize the importance of consistency to brand strength
(2) " " " " " " details
(3) " " " " " " tradition in college athletics
(4) Lack of enforcement
(5) Lack of pride
(6) Giving new coaches final say in matters pertaining to brand and tradition
(7) Athletic department not on same page as rest of university

It's so annoying to me ...

The 'Memphis' font on the basketball, baseball, and football jerseys are all different fonts.

Basketball uses a plain block M logo, baseball uses the leaping Tiger, and football has basically moved to a Cincy Bengals helmet. No logo to be found when they go that route ...

I don't get caught up on color scheme, but our logos need to be more consistent across all sports. From the script/logo on the uniforms, hats, field/court, coaches polo, etc.

It varies from sport to sport for pretty much all Universities. It is really not a big deal...

Maybe a little bit ... baseball teams tend to have different logos on their hats sometimes. But the brand integrity across the board is usually better than what we have.

It's not a BIG DEAL, but it does look B-league.

For instance, look at what tennessee, arkansas, north carolina, baylor have done in recent years...

It is not B-league, like say 90-95% of schools vary quite a bit between sports. Even one of your examples, Arkansas, their baseball team wears cream home uniforms with only an "A" on them that is a totally different script from the anything you will see with their basketball or football teams. The "A" actually looks a lot like the one associated with Alabama actually. Baylor basketball wears highlighter yellow jerseys while their football team has gold chrome helmets with black "BU".

This. UTK, Baylor both have varying unis, color schemes, with/without logos. Nothing B league about it. Some don't like it - some do. Players love it. Apparel companies drive it.

(04-20-2016 01:33 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 07:17 PM)KRB Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 01:49 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I think the throwback script uniforms just say Memphis. Might be wrong.

They always said Memphis in script.

No, actually, Wayne Yates, who succeeded Bartow, changed the uniforms to say "MEMPHIS STATE" and replaced red trim with silver gray. I still have the letter which he sent me saying I would be happy with the improvement. Blue & Gray basketball jerseys bearing "MEMPHIS STATE" continued to be worn until Calipari came along.

You sure about that? The name change occurred long before Cal. I don't remember us wearing MSU stuff more than maybe 1-2 years after the name change.

(04-20-2016 04:39 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:42 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:43 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  (1) Failure to recognize the importance of consistency to brand strength
(2) " " " " " " details
(3) " " " " " " tradition in college athletics
(4) Lack of enforcement
(5) Lack of pride
(6) Giving new coaches final say in matters pertaining to brand and tradition
(7) Athletic department not on same page as rest of university

It's so annoying to me ...

The 'Memphis' font on the basketball, baseball, and football jerseys are all different fonts.

Basketball uses a plain block M logo, baseball uses the leaping Tiger, and football has basically moved to a Cincy Bengals helmet. No logo to be found when they go that route ...

I don't get caught up on color scheme, but our logos need to be more consistent across all sports. From the script/logo on the uniforms, hats, field/court, coaches polo, etc.

It varies from sport to sport for pretty much all Universities. It is really not a big deal...

Maybe a little bit ... baseball teams tend to have different logos on their hats sometimes. But the brand integrity across the board is usually better than what we have.

It's not a BIG DEAL, but it does look B-league.

For instance, look at what tennessee, arkansas, north carolina, baylor have done in recent years...

It is not B-league, like say 90-95% of schools vary quite a bit between sports. Even one of your examples, Arkansas, their baseball team wears cream home uniforms with only an "A" on them that is a totally different script from the anything you will see with their basketball or football teams. The "A" actually looks a lot like the one associated with Alabama actually. Baylor basketball wears highlighter yellow jerseys while their football team has gold chrome helmets with black "BU".

That Arkansas A font has been around since I was a kid, it was my Dad's favorite hat. My sister has it now.

Name change was summer before 94-95 season.

Vaughn from 92-93



Vaughn 94-95

(04-20-2016 05:10 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 01:33 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 07:17 PM)KRB Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 01:49 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I think the throwback script uniforms just say Memphis. Might be wrong.

They always said Memphis in script.

No, actually, Wayne Yates, who succeeded Bartow, changed the uniforms to say "MEMPHIS STATE" and replaced red trim with silver gray. I still have the letter which he sent me saying I would be happy with the improvement. Blue & Gray basketball jerseys bearing "MEMPHIS STATE" continued to be worn until Calipari came along.

You sure about that? The name change occurred long before Cal. I don't remember us wearing MSU stuff more than maybe 1-2 years after the name change.

They took "State" off immediately. Finch, Price (and Jones) all wore "Memphis" uniforms.

1994 was a long time ago.

It's been the University of Memphis since the summer of that year.

A modern update of that 94-95 jersey would be fantastic.

(04-20-2016 06:18 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Name change was summer before 94-95 season.

Vaughn 94-95

I stand corrected - the jerseys did change with the name change, not with Calipari. Compare, however, the beauty of the blue (and gray) on Vaughn's jersey, above, with the ugly lighter shade of blue (and lack of gray) which began with Calipari and Nike.