(04-16-2016 09:39 AM)Maize Wrote:  No real disrespect to Syracuse or Louisville...both are Top 10 Jobs Nationally and both are National Brands...fact is the ACC has 4 of the Top 10 Basketball Programs in the Nation.

Yup...you can make a list for each school and they would have lots of comparable pluses and some key differences. You have to drill down into those subjective and objective differences. They are what I would label 2nd tiered national elite programs.

As you said 4 Top 10 programs and UVA could possibly push into the low teens.

10) Miami

The Hurricanes have had a recent rise to prominence by their standards under Jim Larranaga.

by any standard ...

HATER

With a pair of Sweet 16 appearances, Miami has played conference opponents tough.

U won the 2012-13 ACC season & tourny ...

WHAT AM I CHOPPED LIVER

These recent successes for Miami speak to the coaching ability of Laranaga, because it is not the most attractive of jobs.

the sky is blue because the sky is blue ...

CIRCULAR REASONING

Sure, it's in Miami, who wouldn't want to be there?

no sh_t sherlock ...

CONTRADICTION IN THE GOSPEL

Anyone who wants to play in front of more than 8,000 people (a rarity at Miami)

cameron indoor seats 9,314 ...
and your point is ...

THE END-ALL & BE-ALL

The Hurricanes program has potential due to geography, but it's yet to be seen if Larranaga is the only reason for the jump.

yet, we attracted a man of his caliber ...

DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE

It would stand to reason a little, since resources are slim, especially for hoops.

a private school is not required to divulge financials ...
so how the f_ck would you know ...

KNOW-NOTHING

(04-16-2016 09:54 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 09:39 AM)Maize Wrote:  No real disrespect to Syracuse or Louisville...both are Top 10 Jobs Nationally and both are National Brands...fact is the ACC has 4 of the Top 10 Basketball Programs in the Nation.

Yup...you can make a list for each school and they would have lots of comparable pluses and some key differences. You have to drill down into those subjective and objective differences. They are what I would label 2nd tiered national elite programs.

As you said 4 Top 10 programs and UVA could possibly push into the low teens.

Exactly...have a hard time getn "upset" one way or another and I feel most Cuse/Ville fans feel the same...both are secure with the status of their programs....

(04-16-2016 01:31 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 09:54 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 09:39 AM)Maize Wrote:  No real disrespect to Syracuse or Louisville...both are Top 10 Jobs Nationally and both are National Brands...fact is the ACC has 4 of the Top 10 Basketball Programs in the Nation.

Yup...you can make a list for each school and they would have lots of comparable pluses and some key differences. You have to drill down into those subjective and objective differences. They are what I would label 2nd tiered national elite programs.

As you said 4 Top 10 programs and UVA could possibly push into the low teens.

Exactly...have a hard time getn "upset" one way or another and I feel most Cuse/Ville fans feel the same...both are secure with the status of their programs....

The Miami fan OTOH

(04-15-2016 03:48 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  1. UNC
2. Duke
3. Cuse
4. Ville
5. Virginia
6. ND
7. NCST
8. Pitt
9. GT
10. UM
11. FSU
12. BC
13. WF
14. VT
15. Clem

Interesting. Is it the school/program that makes it a great job or is it the coach? Is it based on right now vs. historically? I don't agree that Wake Forest is that poor of a job based on just recent trends. Duke as #2? I doubt it after Coach K leaves. I can't argue against UNC as #1 though.

I say UNC and Duke tied at No. 1 and Louisville and Syracuse tied at No. 3. The rest of the list are OK except I will rank BC at 15 and the three below BC raises by one.

(04-16-2016 06:10 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 03:48 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  1. UNC
2. Duke
3. Cuse
4. Ville
5. Virginia
6. ND
7. NCST
8. Pitt
9. GT
10. UM
11. FSU
12. BC
13. WF
14. VT
15. Clem

Interesting. Is it the school/program that makes it a great job or is it the coach? Is it based on right now vs. historically? I don't agree that Wake Forest is that poor of a job based on just recent trends. Duke as #2? I doubt it after Coach K leaves. I can't argue against UNC as #1 though.

I say UNC and Duke tied at No. 1 and Louisville and Syracuse tied at No. 3. The rest of the list are OK except I will rank BC at 15 and the three below BC raises by one.

I agree about UNC/Duke/UL/SU. But I would leave everything else as the OP listed. I think BC belongs where they are simply because they have a much better recruiting area for bb that would attract a coach. Massachusetts is pretty good for bb recruits and they can get first dibs as the only P5 program there.

(04-16-2016 07:42 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 06:10 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 03:48 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  1. UNC
2. Duke
3. Cuse
4. Ville
5. Virginia
6. ND
7. NCST
8. Pitt
9. GT
10. UM
11. FSU
12. BC
13. WF
14. VT
15. Clem

Interesting. Is it the school/program that makes it a great job or is it the coach? Is it based on right now vs. historically? I don't agree that Wake Forest is that poor of a job based on just recent trends. Duke as #2? I doubt it after Coach K leaves. I can't argue against UNC as #1 though.

I say UNC and Duke tied at No. 1 and Louisville and Syracuse tied at No. 3. The rest of the list are OK except I will rank BC at 15 and the three below BC raises by one.

I agree about UNC/Duke/UL/SU. But I would leave everything else as the OP listed. I think BC belongs where they are simply because they have a much better recruiting area for bb that would attract a coach. Massachusetts is pretty good for bb recruits and they can get first dibs as the only P5 program there.

The problem with BC is not with Massachusetts but Catholic Church is falling. For the same reason, Notre Dame football is no longer No. 1 by default, or even in the top 10.