(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
what you're not recognizing is the process is fk'd up.....
have fun with that....
how you and others don't understand whilst pining against Trump, is that he is the only one that can make change happen....and you guys not understanding that is beyond me...
we both know that Cruz and Trump are a joke with one exception....Trump ain't gonna fk around....
ol' boy ain't that stupid....he likes money....and will promote decision making to make that happen for the 'whole'
I don't like the guy....have said it from day 1.....but in the end, what really matters? some dickhead schlep, or a guy that understands business?
...your choice
and having said all that bs....I'm not sold the right has any chance et al.....
How do I know that Trump "not fk'in around" is a good thing? He has proven time and time again to have the temperament of a 3 year old. I don't want the government to "get sh*t done", I want them to leave me the hell alone.
Also, what makes you think that Trump understands business? Despite inheriting hundreds of millions of dollars and all the political pull it allowed him, he is a lifetime under performer of the market. Thank goodness that I am not as bad at managing my money as Trump.
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
what you're not recognizing is the process is fk'd up.....
have fun with that....
how you and others don't understand whilst pining against Trump, is that he is the only one that can make change happen....and you guys not understanding that is beyond me...
we both know that Cruz and Trump are a joke with one exception....Trump ain't gonna fk around....
ol' boy ain't that stupid....he likes money....and will promote decision making to make that happen for the 'whole'
I don't like the guy....have said it from day 1.....but in the end, what really matters? some dickhead schlep, or a guy that understands business?
...your choice
and having said all that bs....I'm not sold the right has any chance et al.....
How do I know that Trump "not fk'in around" is a good thing? He has proven time and time again to have the temperament of a 3 year old. I don't want the government to "get sh*t done", I want them to leave me the hell alone.
Also, what makes you think that Trump understands business? Despite inheriting hundreds of millions of dollars and all the political pull it allowed him, he is a lifetime under performer of the market. Thank goodness that I am not as bad at managing my money as Trump.
as I have attempted to point out numerous times, I don't know either....
what I fk'n do know is that he is 'that other' AND the other option that many pine for is bs stratus quo crayola....if you think 'career politician' is the right move, then, "go for it"....
again, your choice....
all I know is never blue and am 'done' with red tactics.....you guys are only dickin' yourselves....
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(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Because Cruz has gone full blown "establishment" and believes he can fly, his running mate will be Rufio......oooops, Rubio.
The part of Wendy will be played by Megyn Kelly.
Full blown establishment? How so? Because he gave a Bush a job?
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As far as Cruz and Bush......I'll leave that to the media.
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
It does indeed mean nothing. Trump ran up his lead is in the deep South, which will go red anyway.
And which Cruz would have won his share if they were voting now aster Rubio was out. Trump simply hasn't built a majority coalition and Cruz is doing just that.
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Because Cruz has gone full blown "establishment" and believes he can fly, his running mate will be Rufio......oooops, Rubio.
The part of Wendy will be played by Megyn Kelly.
Full blown establishment? How so? Because he gave a Bush a job?
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As far as Cruz and Bush......I'll leave that to the media.
You really think George P can be Governor without Cruz's support? Who has the upper hand here?
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
It does indeed mean nothing. Trump ran up his lead is in the deep South, which will go red anyway.
And which Cruz would have won his share if they were voting now aster Rubio was out. Trump simply hasn't built a majority coalition and Cruz is doing just that.
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
(04-09-2016 09:44 PM)EverRespect Wrote: Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
There are all sorts of people who voted for candidates who are no longer running. If nobody reaches 1237, They and their delegates deserve a chance to be heard. This isn't some new 'anti Trump' rule, but it has been the rile for a long time. Those who want to forget that rule are the ones trying to 'cheat' the system.
I'm not in favor of the system, but my solution involves getting rid of the two party system altogether. How is it any less 'wrong' to change the rules to nominate Trump than it is to nominate Cruz or anyone else?
If Trump is so popular, he will be nominated. Unfortunately his popularity is strong, but so is his unpopularity... and that is something he has embraced. Too bad his supporters don't.
(04-09-2016 10:14 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: This is a manipulated argument.
There are all sorts of people who voted for candidates who are no longer running. If nobody reaches 1237, They and their delegates deserve a chance to be heard. This isn't some new 'anti Trump' rule, but it has been the rile for a long time. Those who want to forget that rule are the ones trying to 'cheat' the system.
I'm not in favor of the system, but my solution involves getting rid of the two party system altogether. How is it any less 'wrong' to change the rules to nominate Trump than it is to nominate Cruz or anyone else?
If Trump is so popular, he will be nominated. Unfortunately his popularity is strong, but so is his unpopularity... and that is something he has embraced. Too bad his supporters don't.
XACLY!
at some point, the ones with a back pocket have to coalesce
If you bother to go and check my past postings, they have been that any of the Republican candidates are preferable to Killary or Bernie. With that said, whomever is the leader in delegates, be it Trump or Cruz, will get my vote so long as the leading vote getter is the nominee.
Any other nominee would be someone that has hardly registered with the public in any voting. If the establishment plays games and decides that someone with little to no following is their nominee, I being a Republican voter since the 70s, will stay home and not vote for president.
Whomever has captured the majority of votes going into the convention deserves to be the nominee even if it is only a plurality. If that candidate turns out to be Trump, the establishment has no one to blame but themselves - they deserve nothing.
(04-09-2016 10:21 PM)Crebman Wrote: If you bother to go and check my past postings, they have been that any of the Republican candidates are preferable to Killary or Bernie. With that said, whomever is the leader in delegates, be it Trump or Cruz, will get my vote so long as the leading vote getter is the nominee.
Any other nominee would be someone that has hardly registered with the public in any voting. If the establishment plays games and decides that someone with little to no following is their nominee, I being a Republican voter since the 70s, will stay home and not vote for president.
Whomever has captured the majority of votes going into the convention deserves to be the nominee even if it is only a plurality. If that candidate turns out to be Trump, the establishment has no one to blame but themselves - they deserve nothing.
the only reason to watch this convention is how they 'delegate'.....
(04-09-2016 07:56 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of drama over nothing. Unless Trump reaches 1237, nothing is being "stolen" from him, because he hasn't won anything to "steal". He and his supporters are just getting desperate, because they see the writing on the wall that he isn't going to reach 1237. Trump will soon go full on kamikaze (proving all his skeptics right), but all he will really do is flame out, and the GOP will coalesce behind Cruz/Kasich.
Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
It does indeed mean nothing. Trump ran up his lead is in the deep South, which will go red anyway.
And which Cruz would have won his share if they were voting now aster Rubio was out. Trump simply hasn't built a majority coalition and Cruz is doing just that.
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You have to deal with the facts at hand and not engage in "what if" scenarios. Maybe Ted Cruz is ahead of Trump if a multitude of other candidates never ran in the first place. But who knows what would have happened. Unless you recast all the votes in each primary, you have no idea what the Rubio supporters would do differently. Even polling them is unreliable since it's easy to say one thing and do something entirely different.
(04-09-2016 09:44 PM)EverRespect Wrote: Exactly, though I much prefer Walker to Kasich. Nothing happens without a majority and I don't think Trump has gotten a majority in a single state, though that should change in New York.
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are you billy shattin' me??? he has a ~2m popular lead.....but yeah, that means nothing....
It does indeed mean nothing. Trump ran up his lead is in the deep South, which will go red anyway.
And which Cruz would have won his share if they were voting now aster Rubio was out. Trump simply hasn't built a majority coalition and Cruz is doing just that.
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You have to deal with the facts at hand and not engage in "what if" scenarios. Maybe Ted Cruz is ahead of Trump if a multitude of other candidates never ran in the first place. But who knows what would have happened. Unless you recast all the votes in each primary, you have no idea what the Rubio supporters would do differently. Even polling them is unreliable since it's easy to say one thing and do something entirely different.
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