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(06-04-2016 07:20 AM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  http://www.jmu.edu/news/2016/06/03-bov-summary.shtml

ugh - nothing.

This is actually encouraging. I doubt they would vote to "remove" him immediately without a replacement. No action to renew is better than the rubber stamp renewal most expected.
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Overhead from the meeting,

"Hey Jon boy can you make this quick, I need to finish this steak and then beat the traffic back to Richmond."
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I doubt that a renewal would be in the public session notes as it is a personnel action that happens in executive session. The interesting news is the new Rector and Vice Rector. We have our first African-American Woman as Rector, Vanessa Evans-Grevious, and a former football player as Vice Rector, Warren Coleman.

https://ftp.jmu.edu/news/2016/06/03-bov-summary.shtml
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JMU has partnered with the Gallup organization to conduct an alumni survey;
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(06-04-2016 11:55 AM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  JMU has partnered with the Gallup organization to conduct an alumni survey;

This was the sole "accomplishment" listed that I felt Alger could take full credit for, and it reminds me of the Gartner reports companies pay $$$ for so they have marketing material to spin.
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To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?
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(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  [b]To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. [\b]Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?


I'm really not trying to be critical, I am honestly trying to understand.

My understanding is that Withers was brought to us by Carr or an influential Alumni. So maybe the accomplishment is listening to the paid consultant (hard to give too much credit for that). Paying for the locker room is facilities so although important, I consider this easy. Especially why people stake you for 1/3 of it. (If JMU history is any indication). Hiring of a coach who hasn't coached a game is considered an accomplishment? If so, is it Algers or Human Resources accomplishment?

Approving the Honors College. This one I'm very interested in and would love to know more. From some of your past posts, I know you and others have been working on this for a long time. I will give Alger credit, but again, this is an approval. If smart guys like you are planning it, he'd be crazy not to approve. Of course, there could be a lot more to it than that.

Approving the faculty relationship is very important. I'm interested in knowing more about this as well. How specifically did he do this? What have been the measurable results, for example.

Leading the largest fundraising campaign is an incomplete. What have the results been as a result of his leadership?

I am really genually interested in some of these accomplishments so that I can pass them along to people that ask me about JMU (and sometimes Alger).
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(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?

Sorry, HH&C, but that is beyond weak. The strategic plan wasn't strategic at all. It was a pamphlet that basically said absolutely nothing. If he has repaired the relationship with faculty, why are the scores of our incoming classes declining? Why are our rankings by publications by US News declining? He didn't have a damn thing to do with the locker room and although it's nice, the program was stronger before any locker room upgrade or stadium renovation. The guy is an empty chair. Good things are going to happen at JMU because of the nature of the university itself. I don't see Alger having a heavy hand in any of these. How is that endowment that he was brought in to boost doing?

Bottom line ... "Is JMU better than it was 4 years ago"? No.
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(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?

Let's be honest. Alger is going to be judged on this board by whether we are in FBS or FCS.
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(06-04-2016 05:15 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?

Let's be honest. Alger is going to be judged on this board by whether we are in FBS or FCS.

You're probably right. After all it is a board about sports, but there are a lot of other things happening or NOT happening across the university on his watch that are alarming.
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(06-04-2016 05:32 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:15 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?

Let's be honest. Alger is going to be judged on this board by whether we are in FBS or FCS.

You're probably right. After all it is a board about sports, but there are a lot of other things happening or NOT happening across the university on his watch that are alarming.

Ok, I'll bite. Such as....? Please be specific.
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(06-04-2016 05:57 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:32 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:15 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?

Let's be honest. Alger is going to be judged on this board by whether we are in FBS or FCS.

You're probably right. After all it is a board about sports, but there are a lot of other things happening or NOT happening across the university on his watch that are alarming.

Ok, I'll bite. Such as....? Please be specific.

The condo funding is basically going nowhere. Our national ratings are down across the board academically. Everything we hear out of his office is about diversity, not excellence. The COB building is going to take 100 years to build at this pace. The two major flagship athletic programs are in the same or worse shape as they were when he took over. The endowment has not increased at even a reasonable pace (percentages look good when the beginning is pathetic).

It's not all doom and gloom. I don't mean it like that. There will always be a lot of good things happening at JMU. I just don't think he's spurred any of them. They would have happened anyway. And yes, my opinion is skewed a bit by the fact that we're still a directionless FCS football program, but I just don't see anything that the guy has really done to improve the university. Locker room upgrades? Four years in and that's it? And I doubt he had much to do with that or gave a crap. Perhaps there are things of substance that you're aware of that I'm not. Have the faculty and staff members been given significant compensation increases? My perception is his approach is to do nothing about much, not rock the boat, and let all of the goodness that JMU already had keep his boat afloat.
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(06-04-2016 05:15 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?

Let's be honest. Alger is going to be judged on this board by whether we are in FBS or FCS.

For the purpose of this thread, I'll wave sports and just ask about school stuff. I'm really just curious about his accomplishments.
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(06-04-2016 06:18 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:57 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:32 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:15 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?

Let's be honest. Alger is going to be judged on this board by whether we are in FBS or FCS.

You're probably right. After all it is a board about sports, but there are a lot of other things happening or NOT happening across the university on his watch that are alarming.

Ok, I'll bite. Such as....? Please be specific.

The condo funding is basically going nowhere. Our national ratings are down across the board academically. Everything we hear out of his office is about diversity, not excellence. The COB building is going to take 100 years to build at this pace. The two major flagship athletic programs are in the same or worse shape as they were when he took over. The endowment has not increased at even a reasonable pace (percentages look good when the beginning is pathetic).

It's not all doom and gloom. I don't mean it like that. There will always be a lot of good things happening at JMU. I just don't think he's spurred any of them. They would have happened anyway. And yes, my opinion is skewed a bit by the fact that we're still a directionless FCS football program, but I just don't see anything that the guy has really done to improve the university. Locker room upgrades? Four years in and that's it? And I doubt he had much to do with that or gave a crap. Perhaps there are things of substance that you're aware of that I'm not. Have the faculty and staff members been given significant compensation increases? My perception is his approach is to do nothing about much, not rock the boat, and let all of the goodness that JMU already had keep his boat afloat.

Every one of your examples is demonstrably wrong. As it's been said many times before, you're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts.

You're comments demonstrate that you're angry, and misinformed with an agenda whose ultimate purpose is baffling. Perhaps your typical forms of discourse take the shape of innocent hyperbole, but whatever passion underwrites your comments they certainly don't equal a constructive, insightful criticism. They're just misinformed bluster.
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(06-05-2016 11:03 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 06:18 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:57 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:32 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:15 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  Let's be honest. Alger is going to be judged on this board by whether we are in FBS or FCS.

You're probably right. After all it is a board about sports, but there are a lot of other things happening or NOT happening across the university on his watch that are alarming.

Ok, I'll bite. Such as....? Please be specific.

The condo funding is basically going nowhere. Our national ratings are down across the board academically. Everything we hear out of his office is about diversity, not excellence. The COB building is going to take 100 years to build at this pace. The two major flagship athletic programs are in the same or worse shape as they were when he took over. The endowment has not increased at even a reasonable pace (percentages look good when the beginning is pathetic).

It's not all doom and gloom. I don't mean it like that. There will always be a lot of good things happening at JMU. I just don't think he's spurred any of them. They would have happened anyway. And yes, my opinion is skewed a bit by the fact that we're still a directionless FCS football program, but I just don't see anything that the guy has really done to improve the university. Locker room upgrades? Four years in and that's it? And I doubt he had much to do with that or gave a crap. Perhaps there are things of substance that you're aware of that I'm not. Have the faculty and staff members been given significant compensation increases? My perception is his approach is to do nothing about much, not rock the boat, and let all of the goodness that JMU already had keep his boat afloat.

Every one of your examples is demonstrably wrong. As it's been said many times before, you're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts.

You're comments demonstrate that you're angry, and misinformed with an agenda whose ultimate purpose is baffling. Perhaps your typical forms of discourse take the shape of innocent hyperbole, but whatever passion underwrites your comments they certainly don't equal a constructive, insightful criticism. They're just misinformed bluster.

How many years ago did we announce plans for a new arena? Where are we? What's the endowment look like? You asked me to be specific and when I gave you some examples all you come back with is that I'm spitting "bluster"? Way to try to use some dictionary words to basically say "I have no response to that because it's all correct". You ask me for examples and then tell me I'm misinformed. You sound just like our administration. Bunch of nothing. You need to get outside of Harrisonburg once in a while.
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(06-05-2016 12:04 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-05-2016 11:03 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 06:18 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:57 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:32 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  You're probably right. After all it is a board about sports, but there are a lot of other things happening or NOT happening across the university on his watch that are alarming.

Ok, I'll bite. Such as....? Please be specific.

The condo funding is basically going nowhere. Our national ratings are down across the board academically. Everything we hear out of his office is about diversity, not excellence. The COB building is going to take 100 years to build at this pace. The two major flagship athletic programs are in the same or worse shape as they were when he took over. The endowment has not increased at even a reasonable pace (percentages look good when the beginning is pathetic).

It's not all doom and gloom. I don't mean it like that. There will always be a lot of good things happening at JMU. I just don't think he's spurred any of them. They would have happened anyway. And yes, my opinion is skewed a bit by the fact that we're still a directionless FCS football program, but I just don't see anything that the guy has really done to improve the university. Locker room upgrades? Four years in and that's it? And I doubt he had much to do with that or gave a crap. Perhaps there are things of substance that you're aware of that I'm not. Have the faculty and staff members been given significant compensation increases? My perception is his approach is to do nothing about much, not rock the boat, and let all of the goodness that JMU already had keep his boat afloat.

Every one of your examples is demonstrably wrong. As it's been said many times before, you're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts.

You're comments demonstrate that you're angry, and misinformed with an agenda whose ultimate purpose is baffling. Perhaps your typical forms of discourse take the shape of innocent hyperbole, but whatever passion underwrites your comments they certainly don't equal a constructive, insightful criticism. They're just misinformed bluster.

How many years ago did we announce plans for a new arena? Where are we? What's the endowment look like? You asked me to be specific and when I gave you some examples all you come back with is that I'm spitting "bluster"? Way to try to use some dictionary words to basically say "I have no response to that because it's all correct". You ask me for examples and then tell me I'm misinformed. You sound just like our administration. Bunch of nothing. You need to get outside of Harrisonburg once in a while.

And you need to step back and take a deep breath because you come across as an impatient know-nothing.


The endowment experienced it largest increase ever last year, including a naming gift for a school, first of its type in JMU history. The second major capital campaign is underway and doing well. The number of gifts from individuals has reached an all-time high this past FY.

The new arena is being financed in large part by bonds. The decision to fundraise is to build it right, without shortcuts, and to balance out the institution's obligations so that the educational side of the ledger can have more meat on its bones (i.e. salary increases for faculty and staff and program development vs. bond payments for non-academic capital projects). This is called leadership and good stewardship of resources to address the lopsided approach to funding set in place by Carrier and taken to extremes by the Rose administration (basically an over-reliance on student fees that can't be used for academic purposes).

I've got plenty more examples to share, but I'm not inclined to waste any further part of my day educating a person who is so disconnected from the realities of running a half-billion dollar operation that they think the President isn't doing anything because they haven't moved the football team to an FBS conference, or they think the school is going down the toilet because USN&WR has JMU pegged a spot behind a school 1/10th our enrollment.

I'd be the last person to tell you that JMU has it all lined out as there are many areas where continued improvement is needed. The endowment is one of them, and investments in capital construction another (Showker for the COB and the Carrier Library expansion being just two projects in the pipeline with a combined price tag of approximately $170 million). Still, significant progress has been made under Alger, and just because you've got your panties in a wad over FBS and COA doesn't mean our beloved university isn't being well run.

This board is for the sharing and discussion of issues related to JMU athletics so I "get" the frustration among the passionate purple people eaters on here who want to devour Alger for not being all rah rah. But this board, and the numerous overzealous comments, do not reflect the reality of the larger picture regarding the health of JMU.
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(06-04-2016 02:53 PM)JMUETC Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 02:25 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  [b]To be fair, there are a number of accomplishments during the last 4 years under President Alger. I know I will leave some out, but the highlights are the hiring of Withers for Football and paying for 2/3 of the locker room refurbishment (the rest was paid by a private group), the hiring of Houston for football, the Honors College approval, the rebuilding of the relationship with the faculty, and leading the largest comprehensive fund raising campaign. [\b]Longhorn can provide more positives as part of the Alger admin.

There are questions we need to ask:

1. What is the execution plan on the strategic plan?

2. What is the succession plan for a number of the people on the senior leadership team?

3. Is JMU better now than it was 4 years ago?


I'm really not trying to be critical, I am honestly trying to understand.

My understanding is that Withers was brought to us by Carr or an influential Alumni. So maybe the accomplishment is listening to the paid consultant (hard to give too much credit for that). Paying for the locker room is facilities so although important, I consider this easy. Especially why people stake you for 1/3 of it. (If JMU history is any indication). Hiring of a coach who hasn't coached a game is considered an accomplishment? If so, is it Algers or Human Resources accomplishment?

Approving the Honors College. This one I'm very interested in and would love to know more. From some of your past posts, I know you and others have been working on this for a long time. I will give Alger credit, but again, this is an approval. If smart guys like you are planning it, he'd be crazy not to approve. Of course, there could be a lot more to it than that.

Approving the faculty relationship is very important. I'm interested in knowing more about this as well. How specifically did he do this? What have been the measurable results, for example.

Leading the largest fundraising campaign is an incomplete. What have the results been as a result of his leadership?

I am really genually interested in some of these accomplishments so that I can pass them along to people that ask me about JMU (and sometimes Alger).

The President has the final say in who gets hired as a Coach. Alger approved the Mickey's termination of employment and the hiring of Withers. Yes, we had a search firm for Withers but the call was Alger's. He took a risk on Withers and it paid off.

Spending $200,000 on a locker room is not chump change and it is Alger's call. If he didn't approve of it, it would have had to been funded by private dollars only. Withers wanted it and Alger approved the funding. Is it the largest expenditure? No. Did it show dedication to what a new Coach wanted for the program? Yes.

As for the Honors College, Alger did not have to fast track it with the BOV but he did so as part of the strategic plan. He could have easily waited to see how the fund raising was going before pushing the Honors College, but the first class will be in 2017. Alger realizes that we need the Honors College to compete with other schools in Virginia and in the South. Now, VA Tech wants their Honors Program to be an Honors College because we have moved into the Honors College space ahead of them and we are recruiting top students away from Tech with the move to the Honors College. VA Tech is the institution we compete with more than any other college or university in Virginia for top students. If a student gets into UVA and JMU, we have a 25% shot at getting that student if we offer some scholarship money. If a student gets into VA Tech and JMU, we have a 50-50 shot. Tech is now offering more scholarship money than JMU is for the top students and they have been successful over the years in getting a number of kids to head to Blacksburg because they told students that both JMU and Tech were Honors Programs so the difference was the money. Now, JMU is telling these top students that we will be an Honors College and Tech is behind on this front. Alger and his team are doing the heavy lifting along with the Honors Program Director who will be the new Dean. The Honors College would not have happened on the fast track without the relationships Alger built with the faculty.

As for the faculty relationship, he got them a raise and he's more inclusive of faculty opinions and ideas. He also utilizes the faculty in a number of committees and he listens to their issues and acts on many of them. I have talked to some professors and some Deans and they are happier about the communication and the inclusiveness by Alger. This has helped in retention of key faculty and in recruiting new faculty. Does a ton more need to happen for the faculty, like more endowments and chairs, sure. Alger has been pushing for these as part of the campaign.

As for the campaign, Alger easily could have done something like we did during our first campaign. He could have made the goal really low, like $70,000,000, so it could be eclipsed before it really was made public. He did not do that. The number is much higher than $70,000,000. I am not sure that the actual number has been made public and I don't want to provide non-public information. If it has been made public, someone please correct me and put the number out there. In my opinion, I think the campaign number should have been bigger but I also know that once this current campaign ends, there will be another one coming down the road that will have a higher number. Alger has also landed some multi-million dollar gifts to the university during his 4 years and those are already public. I admit that the proof will be in the actual dollars raised as to whether the campaign is ultimately successful but he's out there pushing a large number.

Has he done everything right or quick enough for everyone on the Boards? No. Have there been some missteps? Sure. Are there some things I would do differently if I were in his chair? Yes. Does he deserve some of the criticism he gets on the Boards? Yes. Does he deserve all of it? No.
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RE: O/T BOV meeting today in Festival Boardroom
(06-05-2016 04:41 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-05-2016 12:04 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-05-2016 11:03 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 06:18 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  
(06-04-2016 05:57 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Ok, I'll bite. Such as....? Please be specific.

The condo funding is basically going nowhere. Our national ratings are down across the board academically. Everything we hear out of his office is about diversity, not excellence. The COB building is going to take 100 years to build at this pace. The two major flagship athletic programs are in the same or worse shape as they were when he took over. The endowment has not increased at even a reasonable pace (percentages look good when the beginning is pathetic).

It's not all doom and gloom. I don't mean it like that. There will always be a lot of good things happening at JMU. I just don't think he's spurred any of them. They would have happened anyway. And yes, my opinion is skewed a bit by the fact that we're still a directionless FCS football program, but I just don't see anything that the guy has really done to improve the university. Locker room upgrades? Four years in and that's it? And I doubt he had much to do with that or gave a crap. Perhaps there are things of substance that you're aware of that I'm not. Have the faculty and staff members been given significant compensation increases? My perception is his approach is to do nothing about much, not rock the boat, and let all of the goodness that JMU already had keep his boat afloat.

Every one of your examples is demonstrably wrong. As it's been said many times before, you're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts.

You're comments demonstrate that you're angry, and misinformed with an agenda whose ultimate purpose is baffling. Perhaps your typical forms of discourse take the shape of innocent hyperbole, but whatever passion underwrites your comments they certainly don't equal a constructive, insightful criticism. They're just misinformed bluster.

How many years ago did we announce plans for a new arena? Where are we? What's the endowment look like? You asked me to be specific and when I gave you some examples all you come back with is that I'm spitting "bluster"? Way to try to use some dictionary words to basically say "I have no response to that because it's all correct". You ask me for examples and then tell me I'm misinformed. You sound just like our administration. Bunch of nothing. You need to get outside of Harrisonburg once in a while.

And you need to step back and take a deep breath because you come across as an impatient know-nothing.


The endowment experienced it largest increase ever last year, including a naming gift for a school, first of its type in JMU history. The second major capital campaign is underway and doing well. The number of gifts from individuals has reached an all-time high this past FY.

The new arena is being financed in large part by bonds. The decision to fundraise is to build it right, without shortcuts, and to balance out the institution's obligations so that the educational side of the ledger can have more meat on its bones (i.e. salary increases for faculty and staff and program development vs. bond payments for non-academic capital projects). This is called leadership and good stewardship of resources to address the lopsided approach to funding set in place by Carrier and taken to extremes by the Rose administration (basically an over-reliance on student fees that can't be used for academic purposes).

I've got plenty more examples to share, but I'm not inclined to waste any further part of my day educating a person who is so disconnected from the realities of running a half-billion dollar operation that they think the President isn't doing anything because they haven't moved the football team to an FBS conference, or they think the school is going down the toilet because USN&WR has JMU pegged a spot behind a school 1/10th our enrollment.

I'd be the last person to tell you that JMU has it all lined out as there are many areas where continued improvement is needed. The endowment is one of them, and investments in capital construction another (Showker for the COB and the Carrier Library expansion being just two projects in the pipeline with a combined price tag of approximately $170 million). Still, significant progress has been made under Alger, and just because you've got your panties in a wad over FBS and COA doesn't mean our beloved university isn't being well run.

This board is for the sharing and discussion of issues related to JMU athletics so I "get" the frustration among the passionate purple people eaters on here who want to devour Alger for not being all rah rah. But this board, and the numerous overzealous comments, do not reflect the reality of the larger picture regarding the health of JMU.

I'm not at all surprised by this response, but do you think you can ever come up with one fact? Just one.

Let's look at this one for example. First, thanks for telling everyone what they already know. We know that it's going to take $12 million to get this underway. That's called a dollar amount. Here's what you had to say about it.

Quote:The new arena is being financed in large part by bonds. The decision to fundraise is to build it right, without shortcuts, and to balance out the institution's obligations so that the educational side of the ledger can have more meat on its bones (i.e. salary increases for faculty and staff and program development vs. bond payments for non-academic capital projects). This is called leadership and good stewardship of resources to address the lopsided approach to funding set in place by Carrier and taken to extremes by the Rose administration (basically an over-reliance on student fees that can't be used for academic purposes).
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Great insight HH&C. Thanks for the summery.
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HHC: Thanks for confirming what a BOV member shared with me. It changed my opinion of Alger. The reality is that Alger is an introvert. He is not the salesman nor personality that Carrier was. That being said, he is getting more done than I and others are giving him credit for doing.
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