(03-29-2016 09:37 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:29 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I don't intend to flame the Memphis fans, because I respect their school/athletics, but Memphis got there due to a history of basketball (some of which was achieved through cheating) and a sugar daddy in Fred Smith. The rest of their athletics hasn't looked much different than the rest of us.

that said, Memphis has been to 7 bowls since 2003, and appears to finally be taking football seriously.

we'll see if Mike Norvell can keep it rolling...he/we will finally have the money, and facilities to give him and Memphis football a chance.

Agree. Football is the only thing holding Memphis out of a P5. Keep going to bowls, and win them.

(03-29-2016 10:27 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:37 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:29 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I don't intend to flame the Memphis fans, because I respect their school/athletics, but Memphis got there due to a history of basketball (some of which was achieved through cheating) and a sugar daddy in Fred Smith. The rest of their athletics hasn't looked much different than the rest of us.

that said, Memphis has been to 7 bowls since 2003, and appears to finally be taking football seriously.

we'll see if Mike Norvell can keep it rolling...he/we will finally have the money, and facilities to give him and Memphis football a chance.

Agree. Football is the only thing holding Memphis out of a P5. Keep going to bowls, and win them.

I don't disagree with this and I am certainly no Memphis State fan. The fact that they are putting QB in the top ten picks in the NFL draft says a lot about how far Memphis has come with their football. You maintain a solid bowl streak and there is little to no downside for the Big12.

(03-29-2016 09:22 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 11:30 AM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 12:37 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 12:10 PM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 05:21 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Is it though? CUSA's perception around the league is not what I'd call "on the rise", I'd argue the opposite.

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What was your perception of the 2014 Boca Bowl?

And the MAC champ getting curb-stomped by the 3rd place SunBelt team?
And NIU's stellar performance getting boat-raced by 48 points to Boise?

And the CUSA 3rd or 4th place team whipping a conference champ. CUSA is as marketable as any G5 conference.

UConn and Memphis alone have more clout than our entire conference. CUSA now consists of the G5 teams that refused to invest in athletics when doing so was the obvious thing to do.

I would say only the leftovers fit your blanket statement. WKU was debating dropping football while Favre was lighting it up in college.

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(03-29-2016 05:10 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:22 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  UConn and Memphis alone have more clout than our entire conference. CUSA now consists of the G5 teams that refused to invest in athletics when doing so was the obvious thing to do.

I would say only the leftovers fit your blanket statement. WKU was debating dropping football while Favre was lighting it up in college.

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For the record, Rice spent $30M on an upgrade to Tudor Fieldhouse, $8M on the George Brown Tennis Center, $41M on the Gibbs Recreation Center, and $31M on the opening in 2016 Brian Patterson End Zone facility. More upgrades are coming to the track stadium, football stadium, and Reckling Park.

With it came upgrades to salaries, especially in men's and women's basketball.

But alas, the AAC already has the Houston market covered.

(03-29-2016 06:34 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 05:10 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:22 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  UConn and Memphis alone have more clout than our entire conference. CUSA now consists of the G5 teams that refused to invest in athletics when doing so was the obvious thing to do.

I would say only the leftovers fit your blanket statement. WKU was debating dropping football while Favre was lighting it up in college.

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For the record, Rice spent $30M on an upgrade to Tudor Fieldhouse, $8M on the George Brown Tennis Center, $41M on the Gibbs Recreation Center, and $31M on the opening in 2016 Brian Patterson End Zone facility. More upgrades are coming to the track stadium, football stadium, and Reckling Park.

With it came upgrades to salaries, especially in men's and women's basketball.

But alas, the AAC already has the Houston market covered.

Yeah, I mean I like having you guys in the conference but you guys got shafted by location. And for a totally different reason than USM did.

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(03-29-2016 09:40 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:37 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:29 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I don't intend to flame the Memphis fans, because I respect their school/athletics, but Memphis got there due to a history of basketball (some of which was achieved through cheating) and a sugar daddy in Fred Smith. The rest of their athletics hasn't looked much different than the rest of us.

that said, Memphis has been to 7 bowls since 2003, and appears to finally be taking football seriously.

we'll see if Mike Norvell can keep it rolling...he/we will finally have the money, and facilities to give him and Memphis football a chance.

Yeah, if you can keep a good coach the Fed Ex money ought to be a stabilizer for you guys to build the program.

same is true of MTSU...you guys can really grow your hoops program in CUSA, and the last 5 years has been solid for MTSU...keep getting post season Ws, and the fans/recruits will come.

(03-31-2016 01:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:40 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:37 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:29 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I don't intend to flame the Memphis fans, because I respect their school/athletics, but Memphis got there due to a history of basketball (some of which was achieved through cheating) and a sugar daddy in Fred Smith. The rest of their athletics hasn't looked much different than the rest of us.

that said, Memphis has been to 7 bowls since 2003, and appears to finally be taking football seriously.

we'll see if Mike Norvell can keep it rolling...he/we will finally have the money, and facilities to give him and Memphis football a chance.

Yeah, if you can keep a good coach the Fed Ex money ought to be a stabilizer for you guys to build the program.

same is true of MTSU...you guys can really grow your hoops program in CUSA, and the last 5 years has been solid for MTSU...keep getting post season Ws, and the fans/recruits will come.

We don't have that type of a financier though. In fact, that's the one thing we are lacking more than just about anything else is the seven figure type donor.

When does CUSA TV contract expire? June 1 in 60 days?

Much of the talk regarding the TV contract has revolved around the old guard; are we going to ESPN or staying with CBS Sports or Fox? I'm thinking we need to move away from that line of thinking. Instead of building a TV contract, I'd like to see the league explore a broadcasting contract (change of term equals change of venue).

YouTube has built itself into a strong brand, and has been working hard to expand that brand. They tried to get in on the NFL and MLB contracts when they were being reworked recently, and talked with the Pac 12 about their channel for a while as well, IIRC. Let's go in with them for a C-USA network, done much like the SEC network. They have the money to do a decent (not outstanding, but decent) contract. They're a known brand. They're dying to get into traditional broadcasting. If we open the door for them, we know they'd throw everything at it, because it would be their first chance to show what they could do. We'd get top quality simply because we'd be their resume, their test case.

We could add some traditional contracts as well with the on-air networks, but wouldn't be solely dependent on them like we are now.

(04-02-2016 10:04 AM)Southern Miss Alum Wrote:  Much of the talk regarding the TV contract has revolved around the old guard; are we going to ESPN or staying with CBS Sports or Fox? I'm thinking we need to move away from that line of thinking. Instead of building a TV contract, I'd like to see the league explore a broadcasting contract (change of term equals change of venue).

YouTube has built itself into a strong brand, and has been working hard to expand that brand. They tried to get in on the NFL and MLB contracts when they were being reworked recently, and talked with the Pac 12 about their channel for a while as well, IIRC. Let's go in with them for a C-USA network, done much like the SEC network. They have the money to do a decent (not outstanding, but decent) contract. They're a known brand. They're dying to get into traditional broadcasting. If we open the door for them, we know they'd throw everything at it, because it would be their first chance to show what they could do. We'd get top quality simply because we'd be their resume, their test case.

We could add some traditional contracts as well with the on-air networks, but wouldn't be solely dependent on them like we are now.

I suppose that could work. I wonder if a platform such as Netflix would be interested in getting into live sports?

(04-02-2016 10:04 AM)Southern Miss Alum Wrote:  Much of the talk regarding the TV contract has revolved around the old guard; are we going to ESPN or staying with CBS Sports or Fox? I'm thinking we need to move away from that line of thinking. Instead of building a TV contract, I'd like to see the league explore a broadcasting contract (change of term equals change of venue).

YouTube has built itself into a strong brand, and has been working hard to expand that brand. They tried to get in on the NFL and MLB contracts when they were being reworked recently, and talked with the Pac 12 about their channel for a while as well, IIRC. Let's go in with them for a C-USA network, done much like the SEC network. They have the money to do a decent (not outstanding, but decent) contract. They're a known brand. They're dying to get into traditional broadcasting. If we open the door for them, we know they'd throw everything at it, because it would be their first chance to show what they could do. We'd get top quality simply because we'd be their resume, their test case.

We could add some traditional contracts as well with the on-air networks, but wouldn't be solely dependent on them like we are now.

Google would basically just look at what ESPN viewership is like for G5 level conferences and make an offer based on that. Google basically prints money, but they're not going to just piss money away because they can. Regardless of who we go with, we're going to get paid very little.

(04-02-2016 10:04 AM)Southern Miss Alum Wrote:  Much of the talk regarding the TV contract has revolved around the old guard; are we going to ESPN or staying with CBS Sports or Fox? I'm thinking we need to move away from that line of thinking. Instead of building a TV contract, I'd like to see the league explore a broadcasting contract (change of term equals change of venue).

YouTube has built itself into a strong brand, and has been working hard to expand that brand. They tried to get in on the NFL and MLB contracts when they were being reworked recently, and talked with the Pac 12 about their channel for a while as well, IIRC. Let's go in with them for a C-USA network, done much like the SEC network. They have the money to do a decent (not outstanding, but decent) contract. They're a known brand. They're dying to get into traditional broadcasting. If we open the door for them, we know they'd throw everything at it, because it would be their first chance to show what they could do. We'd get top quality simply because we'd be their resume, their test case.

We could add some traditional contracts as well with the on-air networks, but wouldn't be solely dependent on them like we are now.

Thats just what we need to make the league perception
improve. "Hey guys, check us out tonight. The big game is on youtube"

YouTube, Netflix, Prime or whatever at least has global reach. Anyone that wanted to watch the game could get it live. I think there could be some positive press to come out of it as well, being the first FBS conference to have a major deal with an outlet like that. I also think if one of those online channels wanted to get into sports, they would have to pay more than the going rate because they are so unknown. A P5 probably wouldn't want to risk being the guinia pig, and an online channel will have to pay above average to get an FBS conference to be that pig. If it takes off, we're well positioned and on the ground floor. If it doesn't, we have more money, our fans at least can watch every game and we don't renew when the contract runs out. Im not saying it should be our only exposure, but as a second option it might not be bad.

(04-02-2016 09:54 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 10:04 AM)Southern Miss Alum Wrote:  Much of the talk regarding the TV contract has revolved around the old guard; are we going to ESPN or staying with CBS Sports or Fox? I'm thinking we need to move away from that line of thinking. Instead of building a TV contract, I'd like to see the league explore a broadcasting contract (change of term equals change of venue).

YouTube has built itself into a strong brand, and has been working hard to expand that brand. They tried to get in on the NFL and MLB contracts when they were being reworked recently, and talked with the Pac 12 about their channel for a while as well, IIRC. Let's go in with them for a C-USA network, done much like the SEC network. They have the money to do a decent (not outstanding, but decent) contract. They're a known brand. They're dying to get into traditional broadcasting. If we open the door for them, we know they'd throw everything at it, because it would be their first chance to show what they could do. We'd get top quality simply because we'd be their resume, their test case.

We could add some traditional contracts as well with the on-air networks, but wouldn't be solely dependent on them like we are now.

Thats just what we need to make the league perception
improve. "Hey guys, check us out tonight. The big game is on youtube"

Yeah youtube will always be what it is today. Like how Amazon only sells books and i love my pager

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(04-02-2016 11:04 PM)monarx Wrote:  YouTube, Netflix, Prime or whatever at least has global reach. Anyone that wanted to watch the game could get it live. I think there could be some positive press to come out of it as well, being the first FBS conference to have a major deal with an outlet like that. I also think if one of those online channels wanted to get into sports, they would have to pay more than the going rate because they are so unknown. A P5 probably wouldn't want to risk being the guinia pig, and an online channel will have to pay above average to get an FBS conference to be that pig. If it takes off, we're well positioned and on the ground floor. If it doesn't, we have more money, our fans at least can watch every game and we don't renew when the contract runs out. Im not saying it should be our only exposure, but as a second option it might not be bad.

Youtube is the only one out of those that actually does live streams. And, although you could get a deal with Youtube for promotion, all you need to actually do a live stream on youtube is a youtube account and some cameras. It also probably wouldn't really add a big revenue stream as Youtube probably wouldn't pay very much, if at all, for this content since they're swimming in content right now. It's possible that maybe Twitch or Vimeo would be interested, but as I said it wouldn't really bring in the money that a standard TV contract would.

It's possible we write in our contract that C-USA has the digital rights for all the games, and broadcasts them on Youtube for exposure vice money, but I feel that'd be an intense contract negotiation.

For Netflix/AmazonPrime/Hulu/etc, those are all on-demand video services, which require a different make-up of servers and design philosophy than live content.

From now on one lucky fan from each school will be chosen to do a live periscope feed. The money will non existant but at least we will get to watch every game.