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RE: Terror in Brussels
(03-22-2016 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
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(03-22-2016 09:37 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 08:21 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  Lord have mercy! The Belgians (and Europe as a whole) have really underestimated the extent of their Islam problem. Hell, Abdeslam was hiding in plain sight in a Brussels neighborhood since the Paris attacks. It's ridiculous. These guys aren't the lone wolf types. They are an organized force that has consistently shown themselves capable of effective strikes. Europe is just going to have to face reality at some point. Either start to deal with it despite whatever bull**** P.C. blowback you get or continue to watch the aftermath of your cities being attacked on the news.
Believe me, there are plenty of Europeans who recognize the problem. It's their feckless leaders who will do nothing about it. It's insane what is happening over there. Germany especially is a ticking time bomb.

All the while the powder keg is getting more and more unstable.
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They're afraid of their own shadows (their history). Being called the "F-word" (fascist) or God forbid the "N-word" (nazi) is more terrifying to a Euro-politician than stacks of their own peoples' corpses piling up.
I agree that that fear is a major factor in not dealing with the problem. I think the Germans don't really understand how to deal with their past. It's one thing to understand and never forget it to make sure that it doesn't repeat itself, but it's another thing to be paralyzed by it. Their leaders seem totally incapable of making the hard choices due to the ghosts of their grandfathers.

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RE: Terror in Brussels
(03-22-2016 10:35 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
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(03-22-2016 09:51 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  What bothers me about Trump is that he uses events like these for political gain. He milks additional support every time some Muslim decides that he wants to "get even" at the expense of innocent lives.

I don't think Trump is actually going to solve a single thing. I would rather have a guy like Kasich, who understands nuance and can make a realistic plan come to fruition.

Trump is just using Twitter to appeal to people's emotions. He doesn't actually care. He's a typical sociopath.

What's really bothering you is that Trump says this stuff and it seems outrageous when he says it, and the the dumbf*ck terrorists go out and prove him correct.

It's not outrageous at all. It's tasteless (and tone-deaf). It's a trait I don't think we want in a President.

A lot of his "bigotry" is rooted in fact. His reasons are actual reasons. That's why he appeals to so many people.

My issue with trump is not him being tasteless or tone-deaf it's the inconsistencies over the past 20 years on different issues. As grandpa always said. "You can trust a thief but you can never trust a liar"

I'm frankly a little tired of presidents who have put sounding nice over substance.

Quote:As for Belgium, they are going to have to ask some tough questions about themselves. These Muslims were home-grown, so I don't think sealing the borders actually fixes the issues. You could monitor all Muslims in your country - but does making your homeland a surveillance state sound a little unappetizing to you?

They may have been home grown but the soil that nurtured them was imported.
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RE: Terror in Brussels
I actually trust Trump more than Cruz. Trump has no filter and it's doubtful that he can keep a secret. For that reason however, he worries me as POTUS.

Cruz on the other hand strikes me as conniving.
03-22-2016 10:42 AM
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That JV team has officially claimed responsibility. Obama pissed they interfered with his Cuba vacation, so they can get ready for another red line.
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RE: Terror in Brussels
(03-22-2016 10:43 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  That JV team has officially claimed responsibility. Obama pissed they interfered with his Cuba vacation, so they can get ready for another red line.

Until they bring down a couple of sky scrappers and kill 3000 in one attack, they are still JV.
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RE: Terror in Brussels
(03-22-2016 09:51 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  What bothers me about Trump is that he uses events like these for political gain. He milks additional support every time some Muslim decides that he wants to "get even" at the expense of innocent lives.

I don't think Trump is actually going to solve a single thing. I would rather have a guy like Kasich, who understands nuance and can make a realistic plan come to fruition.

Trump is just using Twitter to appeal to people's emotions. He doesn't actually care. He's a typical sociopath.

I am not a Trump guy, but you can take the bolded and apply it to any politician.
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(03-22-2016 10:42 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I actually trust Trump more than Cruz. Trump has no filter and it's doubtful that he can keep a secret. For that reason however, he worries me as POTUS.

Cruz on the other hand strikes me as conniving.

I trust trump to keep a secret more than Hillary....
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(03-22-2016 09:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(03-22-2016 08:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I don't see what this has to do with America, or the US President...sounds like a problem for Belgium to solve, and good luck to them.

Yea, San Bernadino was a Belgium problem also I guess.

I should be far more worried about dying in a car wreck or lighting strike than radical islam...but I wish wish Belgium luck.

Now I know you're just trolling. I know for a fact you can't possibly be this stupid.
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(03-22-2016 10:43 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  That JV team has officially claimed responsibility. Obama pissed they interfered with his Cuba vacation, so they can get ready for another red line.

What's really sad is that is probably exactly what Obama was thinking when he first heard about it.
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(03-22-2016 09:59 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
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(03-22-2016 08:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I don't see what this has to do with America, or the US President...sounds like a problem for Belgium to solve, and good luck to them.

How provincial of you.

So Obama was suppose to personally track down the terrorists inside of Belgium?


obama could not personally track down his own junk with both hands.
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RE: Terror in Brussels
(03-22-2016 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 10:43 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  That JV team has officially claimed responsibility. Obama pissed they interfered with his Cuba vacation, so they can get ready for another red line.

Until they bring down a couple of sky scrappers and kill 3000 in one attack, they are still JV.

Bringing down a building is not what makes one "big time" McVeigh brought down a building and he was not a part of any varsity terror organization.

ISIS occupied territory in three nations. They have outposts in several others. They had millions of people under their governance and have recruited thousands of foreigners to come join their ranks.

In what freaking way is that JV?
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RE: Terror in Brussels
(03-22-2016 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 10:43 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  That JV team has officially claimed responsibility. Obama pissed they interfered with his Cuba vacation, so they can get ready for another red line.

Until they bring down a couple of sky scrappers and kill 3000 in one attack, they are still JV.

Yea, 34 lives and another 180 injured just doesn't register on your chart of giving a damn. Got it.
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RE: Terror in Brussels
(03-22-2016 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 10:43 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  That JV team has officially claimed responsibility. Obama pissed they interfered with his Cuba vacation, so they can get ready for another red line.

Until they bring down a couple of sky scrappers and kill 3000 in one attack, they are still JV.

JV Team:

27,594 people killed and 26,145 injured in 2,859 attacks in 53 countries by Islamic terrorists in 2015.

4,661 people killed and 5,205 injured in 469 attacks in 38 countries by Islamic terrorist as of 03/19.

Maybe you're right. Thank you Huskie Jebus that Muslims don't have a Varsity team.
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(03-22-2016 10:42 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I actually trust Trump more than Cruz. Trump has no filter and it's doubtful that he can keep a secret. For that reason however, he worries me as POTUS.

Cruz on the other hand strikes me as conniving.

Well, you're talking about your *feelings*, and not facts. Cruz has the second (to Mike Lee) highest Conservative Review rating in Congress, which tracks voting records to rhetoric.

Trump is nothing but hot air.
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Hillary Issues Statement On #Brussels, Still Can’t Say ‘Islamic Terrorism’

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Blast from the past,

n the book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, written by Dr. Peter Hammond, he explores the topic of the impact that an increasing Muslim population has on that society. The lists below illustrate the Muslim population status of countries around the world, and exactly what changes to the societies can be expected according to Hammond.

The book as well as the author are controversial, but the topic is definitely something that needs to be explored and understood. From the book:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for

Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.


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3 U.S. Mormon Missionaries Injured In #Brussels Attack

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Quote:SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Mormon church officials say three missionaries from Utah were seriously injured in the Brussels airport terrorist attack.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints issued a statement Tuesday identifying them as 66-year-old Richard Norby of Lehi, 20-year-old Joseph Empey of Santa Clara and 19-year-old Mason Wells of Sandy.

They were near the explosion when it occurred and have been hospitalized.

The three men were serving in Paris and were at the airport with a fourth missionary who was on her way to an assignment in Ohio.

Belgian officials say 31 people were killed Tuesday and 187 wounded in two explosions at the Belgium airport and one at a city subway station.

http://bigstory.ap.org/a861a32741ba4a66a5397af8c7d0e8c5
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(03-22-2016 11:17 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Hillary Issues Statement On #Brussels, Still Can’t Say ‘Islamic Terrorism’

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Well she did say Jihadism, so she didn't ignore Islam entirely...
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Decades ago, in need of youthful workers to replace old farts, Western Europe opened the floodgates to North Africa and the Middle East. Too much of a culture clash, which was made harder by the mind-boggling decision to bring in millions of unchecked Syrian refugees (most of them young, single males).

If we were to go back in time, Europe would've been much better served recruiting Mexico and Central America for workers - quite obviously there was an ample supply looking to leave. Logistically more difficult over the ocean, sure, but Hispanics already bring Judeo-Christian rooted western culture and would be far more willing and able to assimilate in adopted countries.

Would still be some struggles, but Jose and Maria wouldn't be strapping bomb belts under their jackets.
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(03-22-2016 11:46 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Decades ago, in need of youthful workers to replace old farts, Western Europe opened the floodgates to North Africa and the Middle East. Too much of a culture clash, which was made harder by the mind-boggling decision to bring in millions of unchecked Syrian refugees (most of them young, single males).

If we were to go back in time, Europe would've been much better served recruiting Mexico and Central America for workers - quite obviously there was an ample supply looking to leave. Logistically more difficult over the ocean, sure, but Hispanics already bring Judeo-Christian rooted western culture and would be far more willing and able to assimilate in adopted countries.

Would still be some struggles, but Jose and Maria wouldn't be strapping bomb belts under their jackets.

Yep, or Asians, Indians, African Christians etc.
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