Saw a tweet that said Ray Harper was hired to be the new head coach at Jacksonville State.

(04-06-2016 09:06 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Saw a tweet that said Ray Harper was hired to be the new head coach at Jacksonville State.

Correct and that alone should put to rest that Harper did anything wrong or tried to hide something just so his players gets to play.

Harper resigned because of the contract he was offered was unfair and the fact he was told these 3 would not be playing. So yes it played into Harper resigning but not the way most people were thinking.

I know (really really really well) someone that is really close to Shannon, Ray Harpers wife. Considered a friend by Ray and a close friend to Shannon. What I was told honestly made me question a couple people I really respect at Western for the way this went down.

I'm not really wanting to go through the 13 pages on this thread,

What is the official story on what happened?

(04-06-2016 09:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:06 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Saw a tweet that said Ray Harper was hired to be the new head coach at Jacksonville State.

Correct and that alone should put to rest that Harper did anything wrong or tried to hide something just so his players gets to play.

Harper resigned because of the contract he was offered was unfair and the fact he was told these 3 would not be playing. So yes it played into Harper resigning but not the way most people were thinking.

I know (really really really well) someone that is really close to Shannon, Ray Harpers wife. Considered a friend by Ray and a close friend to Shannon. What I was told honestly made me question a couple people I really respect at Western for the way this went down.

Would they be who I suspect? Or someone I don't have a clue about? I don't like how it went down at all. I've said all along I thought it was too soon. I honestly don't know who he and Shumate could have pulled out of the hat to replace the 3 guys we lost but we'll have the best front line we've had in many years this coming season.

According to the dumbasses Ray didn't deserve a process to build the team. Little Rock did it in one year. My question is, is our new coach being given time to build or should he duplicate what Little Rock did? Little Rock was brought up all year long as how it should be done because we were in a rebuilding year. So according to the dumbasses we should be 30-5 this year. Correct?

(04-06-2016 11:24 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:06 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Saw a tweet that said Ray Harper was hired to be the new head coach at Jacksonville State.

Correct and that alone should put to rest that Harper did anything wrong or tried to hide something just so his players gets to play.

Harper resigned because of the contract he was offered was unfair and the fact he was told these 3 would not be playing. So yes it played into Harper resigning but not the way most people were thinking.

I know (really really really well) someone that is really close to Shannon, Ray Harpers wife. Considered a friend by Ray and a close friend to Shannon. What I was told honestly made me question a couple people I really respect at Western for the way this went down.

Would they be who I suspect? Or someone I don't have a clue about? I don't like how it went down at all. I've said all along I thought it was too soon. I honestly don't know who he and Shumate could have pulled out of the hat to replace the 3 guys we lost but we'll have the best front line we've had in many years this coming season.

According to the dumbasses Ray didn't deserve a process to build the team. Little Rock did it in one year. My question is, is our new coach being given time to build or should he duplicate what Little Rock did? Little Rock was brought up all year long as how it should be done because we were in a rebuilding year. So according to the dumbasses we should be 30-5 this year. Correct?

I say most likely you are thinking of the two highly thought of men that I'm talking about and you and Mike met Shannon's friend while we were in Ft Myers. What Little Rock did this year was very rare. They mixed in a boat load of JUCO's with a couple good Sr's. I think as long as JJ stays Western has twice as much coming back as Little Rock.

Every year I would guess there are a 100 teams replacing their backcourt. So I don't see why Western can't. We do have one of the best recruiters in college basketball. Or so that's what I've been told. But I'm more in line of no one other than Clem has brought in 4 and 5 star talent to Western. So I don't see it with Stansbury either. Lot easier selling small backwood town USA when you play in the sec and espn is pimping the conference so much.

I think you know where I stand on Stansbury's coaching...if you are getting 4 and 5 star players and still not getting past the 2nd round of the NCAA Tourney....

I hope I'm dead wrong on that but when you look at his record vs decent to good RPI teams. Even teams that's not in Miss St's neighborhood on recruiting STARS. It kind of tells the story. If you got the Jimmy's and the Joe's and not moving on in the tourney and only .500 vs the top 100 RPI OOC ...

it must be the X's & O's

I will be more than happy to say ..boy I was dead wrong on that one next season. No matter who the coach is, even one that wouldn't have been my choice I will be in Diddle for every game. Win or lose no matter who the coach is, I will be in Diddle for every game. I know you are the same way. Well let me change that to...

as long as there are no road football games that makes it impossible to be at both.

Can't believe how much that has changed in the past 4 or 5 years. I can't see any regular season basketball game coming before a Western football game. Not even if we were ranked high and it was UofL coming in to Diddle.

(04-06-2016 10:23 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  I'm not really wanting to go through the 13 pages on this thread,

What is the official story on what happened?

The official story 3 players were suspended for violating university conduct and Harper resigned because of those suspensions. There were no laws broken and no NCAA rules were broken.

The more detailed top rumor story is on page 11.

(04-07-2016 03:01 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:24 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:06 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Saw a tweet that said Ray Harper was hired to be the new head coach at Jacksonville State.

Correct and that alone should put to rest that Harper did anything wrong or tried to hide something just so his players gets to play.

Harper resigned because of the contract he was offered was unfair and the fact he was told these 3 would not be playing. So yes it played into Harper resigning but not the way most people were thinking.

I know (really really really well) someone that is really close to Shannon, Ray Harpers wife. Considered a friend by Ray and a close friend to Shannon. What I was told honestly made me question a couple people I really respect at Western for the way this went down.

Would they be who I suspect? Or someone I don't have a clue about? I don't like how it went down at all. I've said all along I thought it was too soon. I honestly don't know who he and Shumate could have pulled out of the hat to replace the 3 guys we lost but we'll have the best front line we've had in many years this coming season.

According to the dumbasses Ray didn't deserve a process to build the team. Little Rock did it in one year. My question is, is our new coach being given time to build or should he duplicate what Little Rock did? Little Rock was brought up all year long as how it should be done because we were in a rebuilding year. So according to the dumbasses we should be 30-5 this year. Correct?

I say most likely you are thinking of the two highly thought of men that I'm talking about and you and Mike met Shannon's friend while we were in Ft Myers. What Little Rock did this year was very rare. They mixed in a boat load of JUCO's with a couple good Sr's. I think as long as JJ stays Western has twice as much coming back as Little Rock.

Every year I would guess there are a 100 teams replacing their backcourt. So I don't see why Western can't. We do have one of the best recruiters in college basketball. Or so that's what I've been told. But I'm more in line of no one other than Clem has brought in 4 and 5 star talent to Western. So I don't see it with Stansbury either. Lot easier selling small backwood town USA when you play in the sec and espn is pimping the conference so much.

I think you know where I stand on Stansbury's coaching...if you are getting 4 and 5 star players and still not getting past the 2nd round of the NCAA Tourney....

I hope I'm dead wrong on that but when you look at his record vs decent to good RPI teams. Even teams that's not in Miss St's neighborhood on recruiting STARS. It kind of tells the story. If you got the Jimmy's and the Joe's and not moving on in the tourney and only .500 vs the top 100 RPI OOC ...

it must be the X's & O's

I will be more than happy to say ..boy I was dead wrong on that one next season. No matter who the coach is, even one that wouldn't have been my choice I will be in Diddle for every game. Win or lose no matter who the coach is, I will be in Diddle for every game. I know you are the same way. Well let me change that to...

as long as there are no road football games that makes it impossible to be at both.

Can't believe how much that has changed in the past 4 or 5 years. I can't see any regular season basketball game coming before a Western football game. Not even if we were ranked high and it was UofL coming in to Diddle.

Sounds like it was exactly who I was thinking of. I was hoping you weren't referring to a woman that I think highly of up there. And I watched these 2 pretty closely all year as I sat near them. Every home game.

I understand what Little Rock did was very, very rare but it didn't stop some of the dumbasses from screeching hysterically about Little Rock saying Ray shouldn't have a process of building a team slowly through gradual better recruiting. Of course those guys wouldn't know a basketball from a set of pruning shears but I just wonder if they expect Rick to pull a Little Rock this year. If not. Why?

I said a long time ago that Western had a ceiling on recruiting and that only Clem Haskins had ever broke through that ceiling. I was at the presser and Rick pretty much said he's going to break through that ceiling. He didn't use the term ceiling but it's what he said in so many words. We'll see. If he can I'll be thrilled.

I got jumped at the presser over saying Rick had only won 56% of his SEC games. Asked why I wrote that. I told the person it was true. I just wrote the numbers that were there. He said "well he was playing in the SEC, a much better conference". I said "well he was recruiting to the SEC with much better recruiting classes than everybody but UK and Florida". This seemed to go over the person's head. I look at it logically. What that 56% tells me is that he won his home games and 6% of his conference road games. A 10-8 record if translated to CUSA games. Is that going to be sufficient to keep our fans happy?

We're in the honeymoon phase right now. Our fans are like miniature UK fans. They want to brag about having a 'name' coach and want to be able to brag about 'star' ratings on players. I hope they still care if we win or lose.

But I'll be at the ball games. I was there through Arnold and Killcullen and McDummy. I'm hoping Slick Rick can bring in the studs he's claiming he will. I hope they're so good they'll roll through conference play. I'm hoping his claim that he'll bring all these big time schools into Diddle is true. Who wouldn't want to see that. But I honestly doubt any of his big time friends are in any hurry to come to Diddle. We'll see on that when the schedule comes out.

If he keeps JJ then he has done a pretty damn good job from the start. Keeping Willie Carmichael and JJ means they could run, me, you and Psychored at the guard spots and win games. His immediate priority has been taken care of. Easier to bring in guards than very, very good bigs and that's what JJ and Willie are.

(04-07-2016 08:38 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-07-2016 03:01 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:24 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 09:06 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Saw a tweet that said Ray Harper was hired to be the new head coach at Jacksonville State.

Correct and that alone should put to rest that Harper did anything wrong or tried to hide something just so his players gets to play.

Harper resigned because of the contract he was offered was unfair and the fact he was told these 3 would not be playing. So yes it played into Harper resigning but not the way most people were thinking.

I know (really really really well) someone that is really close to Shannon, Ray Harpers wife. Considered a friend by Ray and a close friend to Shannon. What I was told honestly made me question a couple people I really respect at Western for the way this went down.

Would they be who I suspect? Or someone I don't have a clue about? I don't like how it went down at all. I've said all along I thought it was too soon. I honestly don't know who he and Shumate could have pulled out of the hat to replace the 3 guys we lost but we'll have the best front line we've had in many years this coming season.

According to the dumbasses Ray didn't deserve a process to build the team. Little Rock did it in one year. My question is, is our new coach being given time to build or should he duplicate what Little Rock did? Little Rock was brought up all year long as how it should be done because we were in a rebuilding year. So according to the dumbasses we should be 30-5 this year. Correct?

I say most likely you are thinking of the two highly thought of men that I'm talking about and you and Mike met Shannon's friend while we were in Ft Myers. What Little Rock did this year was very rare. They mixed in a boat load of JUCO's with a couple good Sr's. I think as long as JJ stays Western has twice as much coming back as Little Rock.

Every year I would guess there are a 100 teams replacing their backcourt. So I don't see why Western can't. We do have one of the best recruiters in college basketball. Or so that's what I've been told. But I'm more in line of no one other than Clem has brought in 4 and 5 star talent to Western. So I don't see it with Stansbury either. Lot easier selling small backwood town USA when you play in the sec and espn is pimping the conference so much.

I think you know where I stand on Stansbury's coaching...if you are getting 4 and 5 star players and still not getting past the 2nd round of the NCAA Tourney....

I hope I'm dead wrong on that but when you look at his record vs decent to good RPI teams. Even teams that's not in Miss St's neighborhood on recruiting STARS. It kind of tells the story. If you got the Jimmy's and the Joe's and not moving on in the tourney and only .500 vs the top 100 RPI OOC ...

it must be the X's & O's

I will be more than happy to say ..boy I was dead wrong on that one next season. No matter who the coach is, even one that wouldn't have been my choice I will be in Diddle for every game. Win or lose no matter who the coach is, I will be in Diddle for every game. I know you are the same way. Well let me change that to...

as long as there are no road football games that makes it impossible to be at both.

Can't believe how much that has changed in the past 4 or 5 years. I can't see any regular season basketball game coming before a Western football game. Not even if we were ranked high and it was UofL coming in to Diddle.

Sounds like it was exactly who I was thinking of. I was hoping you weren't referring to a woman that I think highly of up there. And I watched these 2 pretty closely all year as I sat near them. Every home game.

I understand what Little Rock did was very, very rare but it didn't stop some of the dumbasses from screeching hysterically about Little Rock saying Ray shouldn't have a process of building a team slowly through gradual better recruiting. Of course those guys wouldn't know a basketball from a set of pruning shears but I just wonder if they expect Rick to pull a Little Rock this year. If not. Why?

I said a long time ago that Western had a ceiling on recruiting and that only Clem Haskins had ever broke through that ceiling. I was at the presser and Rick pretty much said he's going to break through that ceiling. He didn't use the term ceiling but it's what he said in so many words. We'll see. If he can I'll be thrilled.

I got jumped at the presser over saying Rick had only won 56% of his SEC games. Asked why I wrote that. I told the person it was true. I just wrote the numbers that were there. He said "well he was playing in the SEC, a much better conference". I said "well he was recruiting to the SEC with much better recruiting classes than everybody but UK and Florida". This seemed to go over the person's head. I look at it logically. What that 56% tells me is that he won his home games and 6% of his conference road games. A 10-8 record if translated to CUSA games. Is that going to be sufficient to keep our fans happy?

We're in the honeymoon phase right now. Our fans are like miniature UK fans. They want to brag about having a 'name' coach and want to be able to brag about 'star' ratings on players. I hope they still care if we win or lose.

But I'll be at the ball games. I was there through Arnold and Killcullen and McDummy. I'm hoping Slick Rick can bring in the studs he's claiming he will. I hope they're so good they'll roll through conference play. I'm hoping his claim that he'll bring all these big time schools into Diddle is true. Who wouldn't want to see that. But I honestly doubt any of his big time friends are in any hurry to come to Diddle. We'll see on that when the schedule comes out.

If he keeps JJ then he has done a pretty damn good job from the start. Keeping Willie Carmichael and JJ means they could run, me, you and Psychored at the guard spots and win games. His immediate priority has been taken care of. Easier to bring in guards than very, very good bigs and that's what JJ and Willie are.

Hey, I heard you can still shoot the rock

Saw a tweet that all three players are now out of school. What will that do to your Apr? We don't need another team with a post season ban...

Our APR has been stellar on the four year average, so we have plenty of wiggle room. Our APR will be fine, per our beat writers.

Yep APR good to go, due to being high last 3 seasons....

I have been on record for months really hoping we hired Stansbury even back in Jan.....I am excited to see what Rick can do... As far as LIttle ROck goes, I have used them as an example of saying sometimes excuses are just that excuses when saying you cannot win if you have a bunch of newcomers and sometimes you do not need 4 seasons to build toward a great season....Do I expect Rick to go 30 and 5 next season, no, but I would hope here in 2 or 3 seasons we can win 23+ games......"Process" in today's world of college hoops does not take 4 years if you have the players to win...Harper has been our only coach in recent history that could not get 23+ wins in a season in a reasonable time frame with 2 DIv. II teams on our schedule every season....TO me that shows recruiting was lacking..

Even in SEC, MIss. St. has zero history and not much basketball pedigree....To take Miss. St. to the next level is really impressive...He had some really good seasons and as far as not making it past 2nd round look at some of the match ups...They were close to breaking through but fell short in some close games....Glad we did not judge Ray Harper on this criteria or ask why he could not get us into the Sweet 16 prior to him becoming our Head Coach....Getting to Sweet 16 has never been the criteria before to be HC at WKU and I don't think it should be now.....

As far as recruiting I dont think Rick had any 5 stars except the one guy who was punching guys in the stands at MIss. St.....He got some really good players at Miss. St. but as he mentioned at the presser, some of his best players were unknown guys like Reginald Delk from Tenn. who was unheralded...Listening to him, his recruiting philosophy really reminded me of Jeff Brohm and that is a good thing...

More then anything else though I do not want a divided WKU fan base.....No one can move on from Harper because we still have WKU Fans constantly bringing up Harper and calling people names all of the time and still now if you disagreed with a lot of things previous coach did....I wish Harper nothing but good luck as a Gamecock....Perfect program for him, as he will have zero pressure and a 20 win season there will really mean something to their fans...Really hope more then anything WKU fans can come together and move on...

WKUYG---your 3:00 a. m. post was not one of your best.I appreciate your enthusiasm for WKU.I am starting to see more "iffy" comments and opinions from your perspective.

But that's OK.Just expect more alternate opinions to come your way(not that you or anyone else gives a whoot about mine).

Care to check how many D2 games former coaches at Western had on the schedule? Of course you already know they played just as many as Harper's team did..some more. You know that because I'm sure you saw the spreadsheet with those numbers.

LOL at giving Stansbury 2 or 3 years to win 23 games. He has what is most likely the best front court in CUSA for the next two years ...and you want to give him to year 3 to win 23 games. So now it's OK to play close games? I guess so since you are making excuses as to why Miss never went past the 2nd round. BTW 3 out of the 4 years Miss was #2, #3 and #5 seed. A 8, 9 and 13 seed the other 3 times. So playing close to is now OK to you? It sure wasn't this year when you and others beat this team and coaches up for losing games in the last minutes...about 6 of them. But it's OK when Miss plays Duke to with in 8 or 7 seed Xavier to 15 points or 12 seed Butler to 1, or 4 Washington to 13

As for Miss's non history....FINIAL 4 in 1996 just 3 years before Stansbury took over and Lost Regional Semifinal in 1995. There's a reason Miss didn't have a NCAA history before the late 80s ...only the sec champs went to the tourney. And just like all the other bottom feeders from BCS conference...espn pimping those conference made each of them trump and of our history..the bottom of the bottom of the sec is now considered better than any of our schools

Just a few of his recruiting classes










But since we are on Stansbury let look closer

here's Miss St OOC schedule for Stansbury's last 9 seasons...you see his recruiting above and like I said...he had the jimmy's and the joe's so against halfway decent teams...it must have been the X's & O's

Miss St went 19-10 a winning 65%

AVG RPI lost was 117
AVG RPI win was 173
Played 6 top 100 schools going 1-5



OOC vs (tourney)





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(04-07-2016 10:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Care to check how many D2 games former coaches at Western had on the schedule? Of course you already know they played just as many as Harper's team did..some more. You know that because I'm sure you saw the spreadsheet with those numbers.

LOL at giving Stansbury 2 or 3 years to win 23 games. He has what is most likely the best front court in CUSA for the next two years ...and you want to give him to year 3 to win 23 games. So now it's OK to play close games? I guess so since you are making excuses as to why Miss never went past the 2nd round. BTW 3 out of the 4 years Miss was #2, #3 and #5 seed. A 8, 9 and 13 seed the other 3 times. So playing close to is now OK to you? It sure wasn't this year when you and others beat this team and coaches up for losing games in the last minutes...about 6 of them. But it's OK when Miss plays Duke to with in 8 or 7 seed Xavier to 15 points or 12 seed Butler to 1, or 4 Washington to 13

As for Miss's non history....FINIAL 4 in 1996 just 3 years before Stansbury took over and Lost Regional Semifinal in 1995. There's a reason Miss didn't have a NCAA history before the late 80s ...only the sec champs went to the tourney. And just like all the other bottom feeders from BCS conference...espn pimping those conference made each of them trump and of our history..the bottom of the bottom of the sec is now considered better than any of our schools

Just a few of his recruiting classes










But since we are on Stansbury let look closer

here's Miss St OOC schedule for Stansbury's last 9 seasons...you see his recruiting above and like I said...he had the jimmy's and the joe's so against halfway decent teams...it must have been the X's & O's

Miss St went 19-10 a winning 65%

AVG RPI lost was 117
AVG RPI win was 173
Played 6 top 100 schools going 1-5



OOC vs (tourney)





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And also he's our coach now so get over it? I never understood bellyaching about a new coach who brings enough to the table to get 18+ his first season and excite the fan base. Like arguing your whipped cream isn't whipped enough. Stop whining. I know you're just refuting 518 but still, what's done is done. I will choose to be optimistic, like I was on HH as HoosierTopper when KMac was named, and later when Harper got it. And neither had the D1 hc experience.

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(04-07-2016 10:15 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  WKUYG---your 3:00 a. m. post was not one of your best.I appreciate your enthusiasm for WKU.I am starting to see more "iffy" comments and opinions from your perspective.

But that's OK.Just expect more alternate opinions to come your way(not that you or anyone else gives a whoot about mine).

So I guess it would better for you if I said....
boy oh boy we got a great one?

I deal in facts more often than not and what I've seen tells me everything I said in that 3am post was based off Stansbury's former coaching record. So far all I've seen from most Western fans...

WE GOT A GREAT ONE
WE GOT A SEC COACH
WE GOT ONE OF THE TOP RECRUITERS
WE GOT A COACH THAT IS GOING TO BRING TOP TALENT TO WESTERN
WE GOT A COACH THAT IS GOING TO BRING BIGTIME TEAMS TO PLAY AT DIDDLE

Stansbury is my coach now that he's at Western and no one hopes he wins and wins big more than I do....

that doesn't mean I have to believe all the bullcrap he was spilling at his press conference. Stansbury might believe he can do everything he said...

going by his scheduling at Miss...he played the worse ooc schedule than all but 1 sec school over his head coaching career

going by his record in the ncaa tourney if he recruited better talent than the schools he played...he got out coached

going by everything I've seen at Western since Clem left...we wont see much difference in the level of recruiting.

All three of those just as the OOC schedules I posted.

So you can go on being all...WE GOT THE BEST. WE WILL KILL EVERYONE. I hope you and others are correct. I would LOVE to be wrong. I will take the wait and see. One thing you wont see me do is put Stansbury or his recruits/players at Western down..after each and every loss.

Like I said Stansbury is now my coach and any player he recruits to Western is my player...ALL are like family to me. I bet the farm that most of the Western cheerleaders fans we see and you want everyone to be...

will be dogging the crap out of both if Western loses

(04-07-2016 10:40 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(04-07-2016 10:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Care to check how many D2 games former coaches at Western had on the schedule? Of course you already know they played just as many as Harper's team did..some more. You know that because I'm sure you saw the spreadsheet with those numbers.

LOL at giving Stansbury 2 or 3 years to win 23 games. He has what is most likely the best front court in CUSA for the next two years ...and you want to give him to year 3 to win 23 games. So now it's OK to play close games? I guess so since you are making excuses as to why Miss never went past the 2nd round. BTW 3 out of the 4 years Miss was #2, #3 and #5 seed. A 8, 9 and 13 seed the other 3 times. So playing close to is now OK to you? It sure wasn't this year when you and others beat this team and coaches up for losing games in the last minutes...about 6 of them. But it's OK when Miss plays Duke to with in 8 or 7 seed Xavier to 15 points or 12 seed Butler to 1, or 4 Washington to 13

As for Miss's non history....FINIAL 4 in 1996 just 3 years before Stansbury took over and Lost Regional Semifinal in 1995. There's a reason Miss didn't have a NCAA history before the late 80s ...only the sec champs went to the tourney. And just like all the other bottom feeders from BCS conference...espn pimping those conference made each of them trump and of our history..the bottom of the bottom of the sec is now considered better than any of our schools

Just a few of his recruiting classes










But since we are on Stansbury let look closer

here's Miss St OOC schedule for Stansbury's last 9 seasons...you see his recruiting above and like I said...he had the jimmy's and the joe's so against halfway decent teams...it must have been the X's & O's

Miss St went 19-10 a winning 65%

AVG RPI lost was 117
AVG RPI win was 173
Played 6 top 100 schools going 1-5



OOC vs (tourney)





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.................

And also he's our coach now so get over it? I never understood bellyaching about a new coach who brings enough to the table to get 18+ his first season and excite the fan base. Like arguing your whipped cream isn't whipped enough. Stop whining. I know you're just refuting 518 but still, what's done is done. I will choose to be optimistic, like I was on HH as HoosierTopper when KMac was named, and later when Harper got it. And neither had the D1 hc experience.

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You go ahead and be a cheerleader...

some of you sound just like uk fans ..of course some of you are. So that's understandable. I can't understand why some people get so upset over facts...

those are the schools Stansbury played against. Those are the schools he scheduled. Those are his recruits.

I didn't make them up...FACTS

I guess when some people see those facts...they rather just say...

WE GOT A SEC COACH

I'm going to support my coach with my butt in my season ticket seats. Don't mean I have to stick my head in the sand and not look at his past. But one thing you are 100% correct about...

I really don't care what anyone says...I say what I want when I want

(04-07-2016 10:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-07-2016 10:40 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(04-07-2016 10:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Care to check how many D2 games former coaches at Western had on the schedule? Of course you already know they played just as many as Harper's team did..some more. You know that because I'm sure you saw the spreadsheet with those numbers.

LOL at giving Stansbury 2 or 3 years to win 23 games. He has what is most likely the best front court in CUSA for the next two years ...and you want to give him to year 3 to win 23 games. So now it's OK to play close games? I guess so since you are making excuses as to why Miss never went past the 2nd round. BTW 3 out of the 4 years Miss was #2, #3 and #5 seed. A 8, 9 and 13 seed the other 3 times. So playing close to is now OK to you? It sure wasn't this year when you and others beat this team and coaches up for losing games in the last minutes...about 6 of them. But it's OK when Miss plays Duke to with in 8 or 7 seed Xavier to 15 points or 12 seed Butler to 1, or 4 Washington to 13

As for Miss's non history....FINIAL 4 in 1996 just 3 years before Stansbury took over and Lost Regional Semifinal in 1995. There's a reason Miss didn't have a NCAA history before the late 80s ...only the sec champs went to the tourney. And just like all the other bottom feeders from BCS conference...espn pimping those conference made each of them trump and of our history..the bottom of the bottom of the sec is now considered better than any of our schools

Just a few of his recruiting classes










But since we are on Stansbury let look closer

here's Miss St OOC schedule for Stansbury's last 9 seasons...you see his recruiting above and like I said...he had the jimmy's and the joe's so against halfway decent teams...it must have been the X's & O's

Miss St went 19-10 a winning 65%

AVG RPI lost was 117
AVG RPI win was 173
Played 6 top 100 schools going 1-5



OOC vs (tourney)





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And also he's our coach now so get over it? I never understood bellyaching about a new coach who brings enough to the table to get 18+ his first season and excite the fan base. Like arguing your whipped cream isn't whipped enough. Stop whining. I know you're just refuting 518 but still, what's done is done. I will choose to be optimistic, like I was on HH as HoosierTopper when KMac was named, and later when Harper got it. And neither had the D1 hc experience.

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You go ahead and be a cheerleader...

some of you sound just like uk fans ..of course some of you are. So that's understandable. I can't understand why some people get so upset over facts...

those are the schools Stansbury played against. Those are the schools he scheduled. Those are his recruits.

I didn't make them up...FACTS

I guess when some people see those facts...they rather just say...

WE GOT A SEC COACH

I'm going to support my coach with my butt in my season ticket seats. Don't mean I have to stick my head in the sand and not look at his past. But one thing you are 100% correct about...

I really don't care what anyone says...I say what I want when I want

People are upset because we have a new coach that we're trying to unite around as fan base...but you appear to not be over Harper leaving and appear to be attacking the Stansbury because of that. Everyone on both sides of the Harper argument were sick of the constant fighting and it appears everyone has come together to support Stansbury and to wish Harper good luck at JSU. Harper's taken the high road and deserves that credit since all this broke. You've made your point. It'll be noted in the history of WKU message board posters that you were mad that Harper left and you were upset that people were happy and excited about the Stansbury hire.

This guy is unreal......I for one like cincydave ready to move on yet its hard to move on when we have young guns going 5 pages long post on why Stansbury is not a great coach and or not to his liking basically, you can sum it up...The guy hasn't even coached a game at WKU yet.....THe criteria you are judging and criticizing him on, no other WKU coach has ever had a resume like Stansbury in modern times, yet the guy must suck because he didn't make Sweet 16's....So I guess Harper's stellar resume of DII titles is greater then anything Stansbury did at MIss. St......

I was mistaken, the guy he brought up in presser as underrated guy was Barry Stewart who was a 3 star recruit, no reason to think we cannot get more 3 star recruits at WKU....As far as taking 3 seasons to win 23+ games, that would be one more season then your boy Harper ever won.....No one knows what next season is going to bring without any guards right now....Certainly Stans could bring in some guards that get it done next season no doubt but its impossible to predict how next season will look until we actually have guards on the roster.......

You are really showing your true colors when you attack anyone who is excited about what Stansbury can bring to the table....You brag about your WKU fandom, but with each post you make on here, it seems more and more apparent you are a Ray Harper fan and not what you claim to be "supporting any WKU coach"....I predict very soon you will disappear again from message boards like you did before Harper came on board....I for one am ready to move forward and cannot wait to see us back in Top 100 RPI at WKU, that to me is what I cannot wait to see! GO TOPS!

(04-08-2016 07:10 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  This guy is unreal......I for one like cincydave ready to move on yet its hard to move on when we have young guns going 5 pages long post on why Stansbury is not a great coach and or not to his liking basically, you can sum it up...The guy hasn't even coached a game at WKU yet.....THe criteria you are judging and criticizing him on, no other WKU coach has ever had a resume like Stansbury in modern times, yet the guy must suck because he didn't make Sweet 16's....So I guess Harper's stellar resume of DII titles is greater then anything Stansbury did at MIss. St......

I was mistaken, the guy he brought up in presser as underrated guy was Barry Stewart who was a 3 star recruit, no reason to think we cannot get more 3 star recruits at WKU....As far as taking 3 seasons to win 23+ games, that would be one more season then your boy Harper ever won.....No one knows what next season is going to bring without any guards right now....Certainly Stans could bring in some guards that get it done next season no doubt but its impossible to predict how next season will look until we actually have guards on the roster.......

You are really showing your true colors when you attack anyone who is excited about what Stansbury can bring to the table....You brag about your WKU fandom, but with each post you make on here, it seems more and more apparent you are a Ray Harper fan and not what you claim to be "supporting any WKU coach"....I predict very soon you will disappear again from message boards like you did before Harper came on board....I for one am ready to move forward and cannot wait to see us back in Top 100 RPI at WKU, that to me is what I cannot wait to see! GO TOPS!

Never EVER! say the words Barry & Stewart together again.

All I have to say for YG, this is the most high profile hire we have made in the history of our athletic program. Get on board or get lost.