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RE: Matt Brady fired
Once I saw Kenny Brooks on the committee I also thought he could become a candidate. Interesting.
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Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 08:53 AM)Dutch Duke Wrote: Bourne just posted detailed statement on the firing. I think his rationale is spot on. Interesting that for the first time lack of engagement in the community became part of the public discussion.
http://jmusports.com/news/2016/3/9/bourn...ogram.aspx
I saw this press release in my email this morning as well. I am usually very hard on the admin about lack of transparency, but I have to say that I was please with this one. I think the right decision was made and what appears to be on the right grounds.
Matt Brady should be commended for his efforts, but he plateaued IMO and wasn't going to take this team to the next level. Here's to hoping this ends up best for both parties in the long run.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 11:16 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote: I couldn't imagine a more special opportunity for UNCW on Thursday. I imagine beating Dook there would be so so sweet for Seahawks fans.
Indeed it would! Duke refuses to play non-ACC North Carolina teams as a policy. Now he's forced to face us. And I'm confident Duke is going down.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
Jordan Shepherd backed out of his verbal commitment. Not a surprise.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 10:31 AM)lexduke398 Wrote: (03-14-2016 10:00 AM)GH86 Wrote: (03-14-2016 09:40 AM)lexduke398 Wrote: I see none of you actually care about the players... They didn't come to the middle of nowhere Virginia, to play in Airplane Hanger with a Basketball court in the middle of it.... They came to play for Matt Brady. Coaches become a huge part of a student athletes life... For many like a second father, for some the only father figure they know. I guess its more about W's and L's and making Forbes and the high dollar folks happy, then actually giving a darn about the student Athletics.. Wow. You are part of what is wrong with College sports.......
So what your saying is no coach should be fired?
If your cheating, being dishonest, stealing, doing bad things, not working hard, a sleeze ball, or having losing season after losing yes... But after two straight competitive winning seasons and none of the other... No.
You're totally right. We had, in your words, a couple "decent" seasons and had a small chance of having a "very decent" season next year. You're Brady's biggest proponent and the best way you can describe his highest-rpi season is "decent". So many posters on here vilify the admin for being asleep at the wheel, and then people get angry when they take action to not continue extending a coach whose best team has been "decent" after 8 years.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 01:25 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: (03-14-2016 11:16 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote: I couldn't imagine a more special opportunity for UNCW on Thursday. I imagine beating Dook there would be so so sweet for Seahawks fans.
Indeed it would! Duke refuses to play non-ACC North Carolina teams as a policy. Now he's forced to face us. And I'm confident Duke is going down.
Duke is annoying and now that I live in town I'm friends with some UNCW grads. I'll be rooting for the seahawks on Thursday.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 01:26 PM)bridgeforthduke Wrote: Jordan Shepherd backed out of his verbal commitment. Not a surprise.
Don't be surprised if the new coach brings in something better. I am guessing that Morgan will not be back and I am hearing rumors that YoYo is toast academically.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 01:26 PM)bridgeforthduke Wrote: Jordan Shepherd backed out of his verbal commitment. Not a surprise.
Big loss for the team but it was expected. Despite all the returning players for next year's team if we do not bring in a good guard the team will struggle mightily with McClean running point all by himself.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
Interesting idea...
brooks becomes head men's Bball coach
Top assistant O'regan becomes head women's coach.
Completely out the box but I personally think he is darn good coach regardless of gender he is coaching.
The only limitation would be recruiting when switching from women to men's, but brooks is well known and well liked enough to dominate in state recruiting.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 07:52 AM)JMU08 Wrote: Coen ~448k
Keatts base is 300k, but increases by 25k each year
Shaver 249k
Doug Wojcik 400k
Pat Skerry 300k
Matt Brady was 302k
Keatts also shares in revenue from attendance, bonuses for CAA tournament championships and regular season, RPI, student grades, etc.
He's also likely to get a raise REAL SOON......
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 01:25 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: (03-14-2016 11:16 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote: I couldn't imagine a more special opportunity for UNCW on Thursday. I imagine beating Dook there would be so so sweet for Seahawks fans.
Indeed it would! Duke refuses to play non-ACC North Carolina teams as a policy. Now he's forced to face us. And I'm confident Duke is going down.
I'm almost certain they visited Elon a few years back...is it a public school thing?
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 02:09 PM)82hawk Wrote: (03-14-2016 07:52 AM)JMU08 Wrote: Coen ~448k
Keatts base is 300k, but increases by 25k each year
Shaver 249k
Doug Wojcik 400k
Pat Skerry 300k
Matt Brady was 302k
Keatts also shares in revenue from attendance, bonuses for CAA tournament championships and regular season, RPI, student grades, etc.
He's also likely to get a raise REAL SOON......
Wow, is he in the stands selling hotdogs as well?
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 02:15 PM)2Buck Wrote: (03-14-2016 02:09 PM)82hawk Wrote: (03-14-2016 07:52 AM)JMU08 Wrote: Coen ~448k
Keatts base is 300k, but increases by 25k each year
Shaver 249k
Doug Wojcik 400k
Pat Skerry 300k
Matt Brady was 302k
Keatts also shares in revenue from attendance, bonuses for CAA tournament championships and regular season, RPI, student grades, etc.
He's also likely to get a raise REAL SOON......
Wow, is he in the stands selling hotdogs as well?
Only Hamburgers, UNCW keeps all the hot dog revenue....
Actually, I LOVED his contract. Low guarantee with lots of incentives to WIN, and as our revenues increase from winning his income is increased as well. It's a sound concept anytime you hire.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 02:22 PM)82hawk Wrote: (03-14-2016 02:15 PM)2Buck Wrote: (03-14-2016 02:09 PM)82hawk Wrote: (03-14-2016 07:52 AM)JMU08 Wrote: Coen ~448k
Keatts base is 300k, but increases by 25k each year
Shaver 249k
Doug Wojcik 400k
Pat Skerry 300k
Matt Brady was 302k
Keatts also shares in revenue from attendance, bonuses for CAA tournament championships and regular season, RPI, student grades, etc.
He's also likely to get a raise REAL SOON......
Wow, is he in the stands selling hotdogs as well?
Only Hamburgers, UNCW keeps all the hot dog revenue....
Actually, I LOVED his contract. Low guarantee with lots of incentives to WIN, and as our revenues increase from winning his income is increased as well. It's a sound concept anytime you hire.
Agree, I like that concept for a contract too. Let the coach bet on himself and that way he is not just collecting a paycheck. Good base salary with lots of incentives....love it!
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Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 09:09 AM)lexduke398 Wrote: #1 Reason... Nobody cares about the kids--- The Players, who came to JMU to play for Matt Brady... Not because we have an amazing Convo.... Not because we are in the middle of where with no decent airports for over an hour... But why should we in this Big money system. Heaven forbid we worry about our Student Athletes.
#2 Reason... Matt Never had Jeff Bournes support or backing--- It was almost like he was forced to hire him against his will so he did everything he could to make him fail. Makes me sick.
#3 Reason... We have had two very decent seasons in a row. With a decent promise for next season, likely could finish a step up from this year, and should--- Now you can kiss next season to the wind. Thus making recruiting even more challenging.
#4 Reason... It is not the Lou days of the early 80's. It will not be those days--- The disparity in college basketball is far greater.... Our budget has increased Penny's compared to other programs---ODU, VCU, GMU, UR... We even had a comparable budget to VA and Va Tech in those days. Now were a small fraction. Those days will not be back.... Coach L was making 700K, Grant and Smart were making double+ What we are willing to pay... Its unrealistic.
#5 Reason. He is a hell of a guy who would do anything for anyone... If only people had got to know him. Bourne never cared to he just talked about him like he was forced to put up with him. Bourne isn't actually allowed to think so in other words that was Charlies opinion, the dictator of JMU.
Whats done is done... Now we have to deal...
1. By that logic, no coach should ever be fired.
2. If that's how you think things are between Bourne and Brady then why is it going to be any better moving forward? Seems more like a reason that it's good for both sides to move on than a reason to keep Brady.
3. Exactly, very decent seasons. Eight years in, the best we've gotten are very decent seasons. He's plateaued and it's time to move on and try to get over the hump instead of being satisfied with "very decent" seasons.
4. We aren't going to be UVA, but we should shoot for being closer to what GMU, ODU, VCU were in the CAA and we should expect our best years to be closer to what their best years were instead of very decent.
5. Good guys are fired all the time. Dean Keener seemed like a good guy, so he shouldn't have been fired? Sure it's a reason to like a coach and to feel bad for him if it doesn't work out, it's not a reason to keep him around despite mediocre performance.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
Joe Funkhouser is on the search committee. Isn't he the leader of the BOV faction that wants to keep JMU playing FCS football? My expectations for us upping the ante for a new basketball coach are not high w/ him, Alger and CK making the decision. Hope I'm wrong.
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(03-14-2016 08:51 PM)olddawg Wrote: Joe Funkhouser is on the search committee. Isn't he the leader of the BOV faction that wants to keep JMU playing FCS football? My expectations for us upping the ante for a new basketball coach are not high w/ him, Alger and CK making the decision. Hope I'm wrong.
^^^^^yep. Fcs all the way, and the donors I know who are close to him toe the same line. Granted, not a large sample but an interesting fact. Also interesting, many of them have been anti Brady a long time (not saying that is Funkhouser)
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 09:39 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote: (03-14-2016 08:51 PM)olddawg Wrote: Joe Funkhouser is on the search committee. Isn't he the leader of the BOV faction that wants to keep JMU playing FCS football? My expectations for us upping the ante for a new basketball coach are not high w/ him, Alger and CK making the decision. Hope I'm wrong.
^^^^^yep. Fcs all the way, and the donors I know who are close to him toe the same line. Granted, not a large sample but an interesting fact. Also interesting, many of them have been anti Brady a long time (not saying that is Funkhouser)
And the reason Dillard stayed so long..
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 09:39 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote: (03-14-2016 08:51 PM)olddawg Wrote: Joe Funkhouser is on the search committee. Isn't he the leader of the BOV faction that wants to keep JMU playing FCS football? My expectations for us upping the ante for a new basketball coach are not high w/ him, Alger and CK making the decision. Hope I'm wrong.
^^^^^yep. Fcs all the way, and the donors I know who are close to him toe the same line. Granted, not a large sample but an interesting fact. Also interesting, many of them have been anti Brady a long time (not saying that is Funkhouser)
Do these people not look at all of the purple (at Brigeforth) and yellow (at the Convo) that just keeps sliding down hill? They are a big part of the problem, not the solution.
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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 09:43 PM)Dukester Wrote: (03-14-2016 09:39 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote: (03-14-2016 08:51 PM)olddawg Wrote: Joe Funkhouser is on the search committee. Isn't he the leader of the BOV faction that wants to keep JMU playing FCS football? My expectations for us upping the ante for a new basketball coach are not high w/ him, Alger and CK making the decision. Hope I'm wrong.
^^^^^yep. Fcs all the way, and the donors I know who are close to him toe the same line. Granted, not a large sample but an interesting fact. Also interesting, many of them have been anti Brady a long time (not saying that is Funkhouser)
And the reason Dillard stayed so long..
I thought that was because of PGJMU
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