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Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
Not really sure how to take this. My feeling is its just Dodds thoughts. That said, the way its written---it could be Dodd paraphrasing Aresco's thoughts or a "sources" thoughts (since Aresco is quoted in the next sentence and the related sentence before is attributed to a "source"). Anyway, I'll you guys make up your own mind on it.
Ongoing jitters: Mike Aresco and the rest of the American Athletic Conference are eyeing the Big 12 warily. The AAC’s commissioner knows his league could be impacted if the Big 12 expands. Half his league has been mentioned as possible Big 12 targets: Cincinnati, Houston, Connecticut, Memphis, Central Florida and South Florida.
“My hope is this thing finally settles down,” Aresco said. “It’s been like a Shakespearean drama.”
His league has no financial penalties if a team would leave. Rather, a price would be negotiated. If the American loses one team, “there probably is a school there that would want to join,” according to a source. If the American loses two teams, it’s still ready to move on with 10 teams. The AAC could still play two divisions with a championship game. “I think we’ve established ourselves as a sixth (power) conference,” Aresco said.
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...gs-to-know
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 03:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: His league has no financial penalties if a team would leave. Rather, a price would be negotiated.
There's no way that can be right, can it? What motivation would a member school have to give anything but a "bye, Felicia" on their way out?
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 04:05 PM)justin_sane15 Wrote: (03-07-2016 03:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: His league has no financial penalties if a team would leave. Rather, a price would be negotiated.
There's no way that can be right, can it? What motivation would a member school have to give anything but a "bye, Felicia" on their way out?
Its a misleading statement. There is a 10 million dollar exit fee with a 27 month notice. Its correct to the extent that there is no defined fee for leaving quicker than 27 months. Its only assumed to be $10 million + some amount to be determined by the parties--but the amount is likely to end up being something like 5 million a year (W Virginia paid 20 million--a 10 million dollar exit fee plus abut 5 million per year to skip the lame duck years). Assuming they informed the AAC this May and exited in 2017, they probably end up paying 15 million.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 04:08 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:05 PM)justin_sane15 Wrote: (03-07-2016 03:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: His league has no financial penalties if a team would leave. Rather, a price would be negotiated.
There's no way that can be right, can it? What motivation would a member school have to give anything but a "bye, Felicia" on their way out?
Its a misleading statement. There is a 10 million dollar exit fee with a 27 month notice. Its correct to the extent that there is no defined fee for leaving quicker than 27 months. Its only assumed to be $10 million + some amount to be determined by the parties--but the amount is likely to end up being something like 5 million a year (W Virginia paid 20 million--a 10 million dollar exit fee plus abut 5 million per year to skip the lame duck years). Assuming they informed the AAC this May and exited in 2017, they probably end up paying 15 million.
By the same token:
Louisville paid an $11M exit fee...
Rutgers paid an $11.5M exit fee...
Syracuse and Pitt paid $7.5M exit fee..
If the schools wait two years they'll pay closer to what Syracuse and Pitt paid out than WVU. Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Louisville gave notice and played an extra year or two. WVU did not-- they just bailed.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
I think he means no penalties to our tv contract.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
Can a G5 conference with 10 teams have a football championship game just like the B12 can?
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 04:43 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Can a G5 conference with 10 teams have a football championship game just like the B12 can?
Yes that's what deregulation meant.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
From Aresco's quote it sounds as if there is a #11 who they would quickly add if there was a defection. There does not appear to be a #12 at this time. Wonder who #11 is.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 04:57 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: From Aresco's quote it sounds as if there is a #11 who they would quickly add if there was a defection. There does not appear to be a #12 at this time. Wonder who #11 is.
UMass? San Diego State?
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 05:00 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:57 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: From Aresco's quote it sounds as if there is a #11 who they would quickly add if there was a defection. There does not appear to be a #12 at this time. Wonder who #11 is.
UMass? San Diego State?
I would probably assume UMass to cover UConn's exit if that were to happen.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 05:00 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:57 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: From Aresco's quote it sounds as if there is a #11 who they would quickly add if there was a defection. There does not appear to be a #12 at this time. Wonder who #11 is.
UMass? San Diego State?
Best hope is Army. UMass would most certainly be chomping at the bit to be #12.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
Bob kraft wants UMass in our conference
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
Army would be a good number 9 and UMass a possible number 10.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 04:52 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:43 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Can a G5 conference with 10 teams have a football championship game just like the B12 can?
Yes that's what deregulation meant.
Not exactly correct. What the amendment said was that a conference could hold a CCG with less than 12 teams, and no divisions, ONLY if they played a round robin. Right now, the AAC plays 8 league games.They would have to stay at 10 AND play a round robin, thus 9 league games, in order to play a CCG.
If somehow they went to 11, I don't see how they could play a RR, which would require 10 conference games.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 05:33 PM)TripleA Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:52 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:43 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Can a G5 conference with 10 teams have a football championship game just like the B12 can?
Yes that's what deregulation meant.
Not exactly correct. What the amendment said was that a conference could hold a CCG with less than 12 teams, and no divisions, ONLY if they played a round robin. Right now, the AAC plays 8 league games.They would have to stay at 10 AND play a round robin, thus 9 league games, in order to play a CCG.
If somehow they went to 11, I don't see how they could play a RR, which would require 10 conference games.
His league has no financial penalties if a team would leave. Rather, a price would be negotiated. If the American loses one team, “there probably is a school there that would want to join,” according to a source. If the American loses two teams, it’s still ready to move on with 10 teams. The AAC could still play two divisions with a championship game. “I think we’ve established ourselves as a sixth (power) conference,” Aresco said.
Yes of course there are scenarios where it wouldn't work. Didn't know I had to cover every base as I was speaking to the above scenario.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 05:33 PM)TripleA Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:52 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:43 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Can a G5 conference with 10 teams have a football championship game just like the B12 can?
Yes that's what deregulation meant.
Not exactly correct. What the amendment said was that a conference could hold a CCG with less than 12 teams, and no divisions, ONLY if they played a round robin. Right now, the AAC plays 8 league games.They would have to stay at 10 AND play a round robin, thus 9 league games, in order to play a CCG.
If somehow they went to 11, I don't see how they could play a RR, which would require 10 conference games.
You can also now play a CCG by dividing into 2 even divisions and playing a round robin within the divisions (no longer need 12 to do that method either). You could do it with 11, but it would be a mess and you'd need a NCAA waiver like the MAC gets every year. Still, that might be better than adding a crap school.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
First time I've seen Dodd say anything remotely like this. Up to this article he has said over and over again the B12 is not nor will they ever expand.
Interesting to say the least. He isn't a hack.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
(03-07-2016 05:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (03-07-2016 05:00 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: (03-07-2016 04:57 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: From Aresco's quote it sounds as if there is a #11 who they would quickly add if there was a defection. There does not appear to be a #12 at this time. Wonder who #11 is.
UMass? San Diego State?
Best hope is Army. UMass would most certainly be chomping at the bit to be #12.
UMASS would make sense as an addition but only if UConn is still a conference mate. They are a project but UConn gives them an antagonist to push the development they need.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
I really doubt we add Umass if they are still playing long term in an un-upgraded McGuirk.
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RE: Big 12 Must Do Something--(AAC Continues With 10?)--CBS Sports
UMass couldn't nut up to join the MAC....
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