Preseason MAC media poll had NIU listed fifth place in West and not far from 6th place. Both NIU and Ball State nearly reversed those standings. Hopefully we get Maric back in time for conference tournament, even if he's only 70% ready we need some sort of post presence.

(03-05-2016 09:10 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:22 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 11:53 PM)JSF Wrote:  Like sucks, then you die.

Or as they say on the EMU board: "Like sucks, and then you get a different crew of refs... and they suck too and then you die. "

NO one (w. EMU) was happy with the homer refs last night in TOL.

That's a hoot. Refs did suck but "homer" is hilarious. There's a difference between "incompetent" and "biased". Explain how the huge delay on the late OOB call that was reviewed forever and then given to EMU benefitted UT. Explain how Thompson wrapping his arm around Boothe's neck and grabbing fistfuls of his jersey with no calls benefitted Toledo? Explain how Lee stiff-arms Mosley after a play and then follows him around the floor with no referee intervention and Thompson carries on all game with no calls and it benefits UT? Explain how a 1 foul disparity for the game gave UT a huge advantage? EMU is a more experienced, more athletic team- give them credit instead of complaining that they got screwed by the refs.

Explain how Boothe and Garber can push Thompson around all game, go over his back, grab his arms, and both guys only had three fouls. Explain how he gets double and triple teamed with guys slapping at his arms from all angles without fouls being called. See, I can play that game too. I'm surprised they didn't T him up for showing the slightest bit of emotion again. Seems to happen quite a bit.

The refs always suck. I thought they sucked both ways last night, so I will disagree with Steve. They definitely didn't decide the game. That was Toledo passing the ball to Tim Bond at least 7 times and having no one other than Boothe that could score at the basket. Won't miss that guy at all. He's a stud.

No, you're not playing the game. You're making my point, and I thank you for it. Your compadre claimed that EMU was getting homered- you just made the same complaints as I which makes my point that the refs sucked and allowed a lot of physical play inside both ways. There- I DID explain why it happened. Now I'm waiting for Steve to go back and explain how that sort of refereeing was a homer job.

Both teams missed way too many free throws, and fast break layups to complain. I thought those were the best refs of the year... Seriously did not have a complaint outside of maybe a weak fast break foul on Sanford and ONE time Garber gave some body defending a shot on the other end from me... How you could blame a game like that on fouls is beyond me. Called even.

(03-05-2016 11:32 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  How you could blame a game like that on fouls is beyond me.

It's what they do. Their conference record reads 9-0-9. Wins, losses and losses caused by refs. I may have to add another column after this most recent game though, Wins in spite of the refs.

(03-05-2016 11:45 AM)OUVan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:32 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  How you could blame a game like that on fouls is beyond me.

It's what they do. Their conference record reads 9-0-9. Wins, losses and losses caused by refs. I may have to add another column after this most recent game though, Wins in spite of the refs.

We blamed one game on the refs. Hyperbole much?

(03-05-2016 12:00 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:45 AM)OUVan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:32 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  How you could blame a game like that on fouls is beyond me.

It's what they do. Their conference record reads 9-0-9. Wins, losses and losses caused by refs. I may have to add another column after this most recent game though, Wins in spite of the refs.

We blamed one game on the refs. Hyperbole much?

Fred Flintstone was sure of the 12-6 half time foul desparity being a conspiracy against the Eagles...

(03-05-2016 09:12 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 08:06 AM)GalliaCat Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 11:53 PM)JSF Wrote:  Like sucks, then you die.

Or as they say on the EMU board: "Like sucks, and then you get a different crew of refs... and they suck too and then you die. "

NO one (w. EMU) was happy with the homer refs last night in TOL.

I swore I was not going to take the bait but I can't help myself. Oh sweet Jesus people let it go!!!!! There has to be some group therapy available out there but this ain't it. I watched that game! You got screwed! We know!!! Can we please move forward with the tournament now. If there will be one bright spot to the season eventually being over it may be the end of the Ball State-EMU game not being jammed into every thread! EMU fans! We do get it! It was an awful call and hurt! But you guys went 9-9 and had a lot more opportunities to right the wrongs. Even with that awful call you were only 2 wins from possibly a 2 seed. I am sure you can look back at other games in which Eastern could have won. To keep revisiting a single game from a 9-9 MAC season and saying it ruined the year just makes no sense. Several games ruined the season and cost EMU a better seed. Just being honest dude.

OU choking 2 times to a bad BG team cost them a regular season east title. If OU's women lose in MAC finals and don't make the NCAA it's not because the NCAA snubbed them it's because the lost the Buffalo 2 times. they Didn't take care of business. That loss to Ball State happened way early in the year and Eastetn just did not take care of business! Period end of story!

You always have the block button, if it drives you that crazy. Relax dude.

But if that exact same event happened to Ohio, and it meant the difference between a 4 seed (and a bye) and an 8 seed, don't act like you wouldn't still be furious.

That game happened on January 23rd. Your wrong! I would have moved on by now. Let it go!

(03-05-2016 12:05 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 12:00 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:45 AM)OUVan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:32 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  How you could blame a game like that on fouls is beyond me.

It's what they do. Their conference record reads 9-0-9. Wins, losses and losses caused by refs. I may have to add another column after this most recent game though, Wins in spite of the refs.

We blamed one game on the refs. Hyperbole much?

Fred Flintstone was sure of the 12-6 half time foul desparity being a conspiracy against the Eagles...

So one guy constitutes "they". Got it.

(03-05-2016 12:00 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:45 AM)OUVan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:32 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  How you could blame a game like that on fouls is beyond me.

It's what they do. Their conference record reads 9-0-9. Wins, losses and losses caused by refs. I may have to add another column after this most recent game though, Wins in spite of the refs.

We blamed one game on the refs. Hyperbole much?

I was about ten feet away from that one as well. There were 39+ minutes before that but those five seconds are the only time I ever saw an entire ref crew turn their backs, put on blindfolds and pocket their whistles. From someone with no skin in the game it was hilariously incompetent. If I was an EMU fan I'd still be furious.

1. Akron
2. Ohio
3. Buffalo
4. CMU
5. Kent
6. Ball State
7. NIU
8. EMU
9. Toledo
10. WMU
11. Miami
12. BG


Let's try to get this thread back on track!

http://www.emueagles.com/news/2016/3/4/t...eader.aspx

EMU is having a big tailgate gig for the doubleheader Monday inside the atrium of the the Convo, including food, cash bar, etc.

Good chance for EMU and TOL fans to 'break bread' or whatever Monday. The EMU fans will probably be in green. They won't have horns or the like. Lol. Hopefully they will be passionate as will the Toledo fans who make the trip...

(03-05-2016 12:24 PM)GalliaCat Wrote:  1. Akron
2. Ohio
3. Buffalo
4. CMU
5. Kent
6. Ball State*
7. NIU
8. EMU*
9. Toledo
10. WMU
11. Miami
12. BG


Let's try to get this thread back on track!

* Maybe we should add Asterisks next to EMU and BSU to help EMU fan feel recognized and empathy from other MAC fans regarding their controversial loss?

(03-05-2016 12:24 PM)emu steve Wrote:  http://www.emueagles.com/news/2016/3/4/t...eader.aspx

EMU is having a big tailgate gig for the doubleheader Monday inside the atrium of the the Convo, including food, cash bar, etc.

Good chance for EMU and TOL fans to 'break bread' or whatever Monday. The EMU fans will probably be in green. They won't have horns or the like. Lol. Hopefully they will be passionate as will the Toledo fans who make the trip...

Might make the trip up 23 to Ypsi. Depends what time I get back in town from work.

Eastern has a nice team this year, and I have a bad feeling they will sweep the Rockets this season. If your center keeps it together, the Eagles may be the dark horse in the tournament.

(03-05-2016 12:24 PM)GalliaCat Wrote:  1. Akron
2. Ohio
3. Buffalo
4. CMU
5. Kent
6. Ball State
7. NIU
8. EMU
9. Toledo
10. WMU
11. Miami
12. BG


Let's try to get this thread back on track!

Some of our fans were disappointed in our performance but here we are, the Number One seed among all the teams that didn't get a bye or home game. WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!

(03-05-2016 08:06 AM)GalliaCat Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:58 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 11:53 PM)JSF Wrote:  Like sucks, then you die.

Or as they say on the EMU board: "Like sucks, and then you get a different crew of refs... and they suck too and then you die. "

NO one (w. EMU) was happy with the homer refs last night in TOL.

I swore I was not going to take the bait but I can't help myself. Oh sweet Jesus people let it go!!!!! There has to be some group therapy available out there but this ain't it. I watched that game! You got screwed! We know!!! Can we please move forward with the tournament now. If there will be one bright spot to the season eventually being over it may be the end of the Ball State-EMU game not being jammed into every thread! EMU fans! We do get it! It was an awful call and hurt! But you guys went 9-9 and had a lot more opportunities to right the wrongs. Even with that awful call you were only 2 wins from possibly a 2 seed. I am sure you can look back at other games in which Eastern could have won. To keep revisiting a single game from a 9-9 MAC season and saying it ruined the year just makes no sense. Several games ruined the season and cost EMU a better seed. Just being honest dude.

OU choking 2 times to a bad BG team cost them a regular season east title. If OU's women lose in MAC finals and don't make the NCAA it's not because the NCAA snubbed them it's because the lost the Buffalo 2 times. they Didn't take care of business. That loss to Ball State happened way early in the year and Eastetn just did not take care of business! Period end of story!

OMG!! THANK YOU for saying this!!!!!!!!

The thing about the women getting snubbed is a little different than EMU not getting it done 8 other times in MAC play. Because OU's women won't be in competition for an at large with people who got it done over them. It will be a lot of equal like resume's and most likely a few power conference teams with average years who make it because they have to play tougher competition, and losing lots of games against that tougher competition. We've seen OU knock off Indiana, FGCU and Duquense... we know they can play with top competition in the nation. And actually UB's RPI isn't that bad. It's in the 120's.

Someone correct me or come up with a better example but I can never rememeber a MAC campus site game with two teams as good as emu and Toledo Really shows the depth of the MAC

(03-08-2016 10:06 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Someone correct me or come up with a better example but I can never rememeber a MAC campus site game with two teams as good as emu and Toledo Really shows the depth of the MAC

I agree. How about the top line of the bracket. I don't recall a tougher trio. Here are each team's KenPom and RPI ranks in the MAC:

1. Akron: 1, 1
2. EMU: 5, 4
3. Toledo: 2, 10

According to KenPom's formula, three of the top 5 were in the same quarterfinal line.

RPI wise, Thursday's Akron-EMU game should be a semi-final matchup.

It just shows how deep this league was where EMU and Toledo played their ways into the 8-9 game despite each being ranked in the top 125 in one of those two systems (Toledo, KenPom ... EMU, RPI).

Overall, the MAC currently only has one team outside the top 200... BG at 207 (WMU is right at 200).

KenPom has just two outside the top 200... BG at 220 and Miami at 231. And both of those teams went on the road and pulled first round upsets.

This is gonna be a crazy week in Cleveland. Nothing that happens starting Thursday would stun me, outside maybe a BG vs. Miami final.

And Miami, alone, making a run wouldn't really stun me. The Redhawks have won four of five (against Akron, Kent, Buffalo and Ball State). The only loss was by two points to Ohio. Its a senior laden team that is trying to save its coach.

(03-09-2016 01:27 AM)Wadszip Wrote:  According to KenPom's formula, three of the top 5 were in the same quarterfinal line.

The #4 through #8 were virtually indistinguishable in Ken Pom.

#4 CMU 147
#5 EMU 154
#6 UB 155
#7 BSU 156
#8 NIU 158

Statistically amazing to have five teams from the same conference so close together out of a 351 teams.